How do YOU land?

[talisman]

Time to dig up a thread.

 

I have been reading about the Vertical Landing in the manual. But somehow I'm unable to understand the difference between the Vertical Landing using the Rotor in Ground effect and without using the Rotor in Ground effect.

 

I don't really understand what the difference is between the two? Without the RiG effect you hover at 5 meters instead of 3? But as soon as you start descending the RiG effect will occur right?

 

 

 

The difference is the amount of power needed by the engines while you are slowing. In RiG effect - 20% less power is required to maintain the hover before you touch down - this is generally safer. If you need to lift again - 20% extra power is priceless.

 

If not coming into Ground Effect - you will need almost maximum power to maintain your positioning hover - if everything goes to hell, you wont generally have much power to lift smoothly if at all.

 

Thats the difference - 20% extra power (and less torque). You should always opt for a Ground Effect pad landing of you can. Best of all though is a rolling landing.

 

Land before you apply the brake - the chpper is high and heavy - on a rigid (brakes on) undercarrage the aircraft will tip. With brakes off the undercarrage can move and tipping is less likely.

 

My routine is:

 

Get her down

 

Reset trim

 

brakes on

 

throttles back. (engine throttles not collective)

 

then i let go of the controls.

[Nasty]

Here is video how i landing not so good landing but hey i m total noob in that chopper and landing is good if chopper not broken and pilot can walk away after landing :)

 

[manne]

The difference is the amount of power needed by the engines while you are slowing. In RiG effect - 20% less power is required to maintain the hover before you touch down - this is generally safer. If you need to lift again - 20% extra power is priceless.

 

If not coming into Ground Effect - you will need almost maximum power to maintain your positioning hover - if everything goes to hell, you wont generally have much power to lift smoothly if at all.

 

Thats the difference - 20% extra power (and less torque). You should always opt for a Ground Effect pad landing of you can. Best of all though is a rolling landing.

 

So, please correct me if I'm wrong, that basically means that when I'm hovering somewhere in general (like high in the sky, or 20 m above ground) I need almost maximum power to maintain my position. But when I'm going close to the ground and start hovering very low (like a few meters) I need less power to maintain my position?

[BKLronin]

Yes! :)

[manne]

I re-read the vertical landing part in the manual again, and now it all makes perfect sense :) Thanks.

[Ramstein]

plus practice in vertcal so you can do FARPS :joystick:

[Peyoteros]

Usually I don't have to land...

[Frazer]

Usually I don't have to land...

:megalol:

[luckybob9]

I land straight down.......usually im not in one piece though :)

[Frazer]

I land straight down.......usually im not in one piece though :)

 

I usually crash

landing :D

[Booger]

To tower...inbound.

 

To tower...land

 

At a FARP, I would approach like a fighter pilot would.

 

First, I note the direction of the "T".

 

Fly over to a 180 break to burn off energy (good practice for high-speed turns). Depending on how much altitude/energy remains, I may round off my base leg.

 

Approach the FARP on the "T" side while trying to not slip in a VRS, or be blown way off by a crosswind (which at times can be worse than VRS).

 

I'm still doing it a little ugly, mostly on the final.

[Yurgon]

I usually crash

landing :D

 

Frazer, YouTube tells me "This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is no longer available in your country." My country is Germany. Do you have the same problem, or is it just YouTube Germany who took it down?

 

Back on topic, I usually do a hover landing. Which is funny, because on an airfield that's not even what I try to do. :-)

[HitchHikingFlatlander]

I usually crash

landing :D

 

Thanks man I now have The Clash's Brand New Cadillac and for some reason Wrong Em' Boyo stuck in my head. And then I get to the end and now I can only think of Peter Griffin on Family Guy singing the Bird Is The Word!

 

Great vid and flying!

[Frazer]

Frazer, YouTube tells me "This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is no longer available in your country." My country is Germany. Do you have the same problem, or is it just YouTube Germany who took it down?

Hmmm interesting, I don't have that problem and I live in The Netherlands. Maybe try to connect through english youtube?

 

Thanks man I now have The Clash's Brand New Cadillac and for some reason Wrong Em' Boyo stuck in my head. And then I get to the end and now I can only think of Peter Griffin on Family Guy singing the Bird Is The Word!

 

Great vid and flying!

Thx and hehehe, glad you like those songs! :punk:

[joey45]

To tower...inbound.

 

To tower...land

 

At a FARP, I would approach like a fighter pilot would.

 

First, I note the direction of the "T".

 

Fly over to a 180 break to burn off energy (good practice for high-speed turns). Depending on how much altitude/energy remains, I may round off my base leg.

 

Approach the FARP on the "T" side while trying to not slip in a VRS, or be blown way off by a crosswind (which at times can be worse than VRS).

 

I'm still doing it a little ugly, mostly on the final.

 

Land into the wind... helps alot.

[LJFHutch]

Usually? My usual style involves coming in fast and heavy with the gear up, doing a massive crash-landing over about 500m or so, ejecting if something catches on fire :D

 

If you mean "landing" landing then probably rolling.

[Booger]

Land into the wind... helps alot.

 

Yeah it does. I used to do that, but the SOP for the folks I'm with use the "T" to denote which side of the FARP will be for arrival/departure. It helps avoid crashes.

 

Besides, I kind of like the challenge of cross-wind landing. Sometimes things go really smooth, others I end up fighting the aircraft. All in all, good practice.

[AlphaOneSix]

Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.

 

Any landing where you can fly the aircraft again is a great one.

[Scudslaker]

hovered landings woth sideslope..i enjoy most, but as stated above from other pilots, it s needed to learn both technics, hover and rolling landing,..

 

best to learn smooth landings ist to land on a fregatte!)

[egorter]

I fly at top speed to the farp or airbase and eject at the last second... And they keep giving me more helicopters, thanks tax payers!!:lol:

[Scudslaker]

lol, does it take long to get enough skills for it? what is your minimum altitude!)