Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[Silver_Dragon]

Added update E-2D and future patch E-3C

 

Added A-7E corsair II

Edited October 28, 2011 by Silver_Dragon

[Phantom88]

With the Boxed version of DCS A-10C hitting the stores very soon,Does this mean the "Mystery Aircraft" will also soon be revealed???:thumbup:

[Pilotasso]

If it flies, the warthog is it. I wouldnt worry too much the stick not being the same on the simulated aircraft because then you would be very limited to 1 title.

[robmypro]

Seriously guys, what is the realistic list of the most plausable US fighters that ED is considering?

 

F-16, F-15, F/A-18?

 

Any of those planes work for me. And then the next one would need to be a mig or SU.

[robmypro]

I think the next aircraft will be the F-16. Here is why. I don't see an F-15C since it would be too limited in role. The F-15E is a two seater, which adds a lot more complexity to the coding. Same problem with the Super Hornet, and it adds Naval / carrier complexity. So logically the F-16 seems like the path of least resistance. And we know how big that community is.

 

I am probably wrong, but logically the F-16 should be next.

[Demongornot]

I think the next aircraft will be the F-16. Here is why. I don't see an F-15C since it would be too limited in role. The F-15E is a two seater, which adds a lot more complexity to the coding. Same problem with the Super Hornet, and it adds Naval / carrier complexity. So logically the F-16 seems like the path of least resistance. And we know how big that community is.

 

I am probably wrong, but logically the F-16 should be next.

 

F-16 can be nice but ED alway do dual engine aircraft and that can cause problem with Falcon's player with a lot of people will say : in falcon we don't do like that and that is different and more problem and actualy FreeFalcon and OpenFalcon its not dead...

F-15 A and B its so old, C and D its so limited and E its multiseat and so modern i think and twoseat can cause problem BUT maybe ED want to do an air superiority aircraft only and not a multirole and the C can be done...Or maybe the E with good IA for the second seat like JTAC ^^, possibility to be pilot or copilot and two player during multiplayer, but i don't think so.

And F/A-18C its really nice, single seat, multirole, why not carrier OP, look SU33 in FC2, ED just need to improve realism for carrier without necessity to make a ship simulator and maybe if avionic data can be use we can expect a F-18E, the multiseat its the F, the E its a singleseat and anyway we can be spoil for a lot of thing about the radar without know it, like actualy the A10C the military version of this simulator its not exactly the same...

 

And for the next if only we have one day, that depending i think, if we have a F16 the next will be an MIG 29 if we have F15 the next will be a SU27 and if we have a F18 the next will be a SU33, but maybe a full version of SU-25 before Russian's multirole for equilibrate the A10C presence and why not too an helicopter for equilibrate the KA50 (AH64 maybe)

 

Anyway if air refueling aircraft with probe and drogue are added we can suppose that the next will be an F/A-18 Hornet, and ED make military simulator with, after, civil adaptation, IDK for the next but for the A10 its that, and if its the same, army don't need to train pilot for old aircraft (A10C version its coming since 2006 and will be replaced only for 2028, F16 its now used a lot for exportation, and F15 have a new version with the Silent Eagle, but carrier training with multirole (F/A) can be usefull for the futur F-35, but maybe before end 2012 government will disclose a lot of secret aicraft with incredible performance and F22 F35 and other can be done in simulation cause this technology can be classified at obsolete...

 

The best way to know it, its to wait...

Edited October 30, 2011 by Demongornot

[joey45]

sorry to ask this, as it has probably been answered before.

 

but will what ever the next aircraft is, will it be compatible with dcs a-10c and blackshark ?

 

i.e multi-player compatible

 

Thats the plan stan.

[BIGNEWY]

thanks for the reply,

 

really enjoying the DCS series, even acquired a retail version of black shark ready for the compatibility patch :)

[Speed]

I think the next aircraft will be the F-16. Here is why. I don't see an F-15C since it would be too limited in role. The F-15E is a two seater, which adds a lot more complexity to the coding. Same problem with the Super Hornet, and it adds Naval / carrier complexity. So logically the F-16 seems like the path of least resistance. And we know how big that community is.

 

I am probably wrong, but logically the F-16 should be next.

 

Yea, you're probably wrong, but not certainly so. The main flaw in your assumptions is that you entirely left the F/A-18C out. The F/A-18C is used by the USN (probably for quite a few years still), as well as several foreign nations. Finally, Eagle Dynamics bought the internet domain name f-18c.com last March. If you don't understand the significance of that, try typing in a-10c.com and ka-50.com into your internet browser and see what happens.

[LostOblivion]

Or, at least, you can see who owns the domain here since nothing is responding in the web browser (at least for me).

 

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/f-18c.com

[EtherealN]

The significance of that is: zero.

 

Seriously, one of these days I'll go register a couple domains and assign them to ED, just to troll everyone. :P

[LostOblivion]

Hehe, okay, gotta give it to ED for giving everybody some hope, about everything, at least if the hoping guys have enough creativity to interpret what ED say in their favour. :P

 

Anyway, what is the difference between the hornet and the super hornet in terms of modern technology? I fear that whatever be the next aircraft, it might have an older avionics suite than DCSW. I want a digital DSMS! I mean, as an example, had ED made an A-10A module now after A-10C, then people would be pissed about having to use the old ACP.

Edited October 30, 2011 by LostOblivion

[EtherealN]

Well, first off, the Super Hornet is NOT a variant of the Hornet, strictly speaking. It has the same general looks, but is considerably bigger. Aside from the looks... We might as well talk about the differences between an F-15 and a Hornet... :P

 

Think of the Super Hornet as being to the F-18C what the F-18 is to the YF-17.

[Jona33]

Hehe, okay, gotta give it to ED for giving everybody some hope, about everything, at least if the hoping guys have enough creativity to interpret what ED say in their favour. :P

 

Anyway, what is the difference between the hornet and the super hornet in terms of modern technology? I fear that whatever be the next aircraft, it might have an older avionics suite than DCSW. I want a digital DSMS! I mean, as an example, had ED made an A-10A module now after A-10C, then people would be pissed about having to use the old ACP.

 

I'm happy with the A-10A. Since DCSW I've become a Hawg fan. Keep on meaning to make a Desert Storm mission with no TGP or PGM's. ;) Anyone know if Beczls Scud works in A-10?

[LostOblivion]

I'm happy with the A-10A. Since DCSW I've become a Hawg fan. Keep on meaning to make a Desert Storm mission with no TGP or PGM's. ;) Anyone know if Beczls Scud works in A-10?

 

I guess that is the problem for me, I'd feel bad about having to fly an old MiG-29 with old avionics for example, hehe. But still, if they're making one, then it would have to happen this way, wouldn't it...

[Intruder_360]

US fixed wing ?

DCS A-6 Intruder :D

Or DCS F-86 Sabre !!!

No, really, the next must be a F/A-18 Hornet C/(D?) and maybe E/(F?), i know the E is modern but the C version of the A10C is modern too...And anyways DCS its have a military version first, the civil coming after and USAF/Navy want to training pilot for modern aircraft ^^

Carrier OP can be perfect, and ED make a new boat for the next patch, well, maybe... :p

But Hornet and carrier can't be doing without realistic ground crew, high alpha and vapor on wings like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo3owHXK9r8 in very humid day an aircraft don't need to turn at 9g (7g maximum for Hornet) for obtain vapor, and the wings of the Hornet are so flexible...

 

Yeah, why not two new DCS planes, like the A-6E Intruder and the F-4B Phantom. It would be great the get a remake of the Rowan Software developed Flight of the Intruder from 1990. It would be also much more fun to fight against an enemy without this high precision weapon systems on both sides. And vietnam will be also a great theater for a flight simulation.

 

I mean, to fly against a AI with weapons like the AA-12 is a bit frustating. You are faster on the chute than you ever expected, and with this old aircrafts you also get much more dogfights too.

 

regards Intruder

[Demongornot]

Hardcore sim with Intruder can be nice but we meet again the twoseats problems and its so old, if ED have a contract with USAF or Navy like i think...Army don't want to training pilot for old aircrafts.

 

But if ED give to community the possibility to ADD new aircraft without replacing existing model AND give to us the possibility to make a full aircraft (a lot of people can make it with realistic avionic and more) for future integration, ED can for free obtain 90% of the work for a new aircraft and if ED they had done we could now flying with F14 F16 MIG29 SU27 SU33 and maybe a lot of aircraft made by a lot of fan working together with the maximum of data from internet, ED just will have to finalize it and win 4 aircraft or more for make 4 new DCS without loose so many time and maybe with multiplayer compatibility, ED will win money and we will win new aircraft for hardcore simulation.

Imagine : DCS Black Shark, DCS A10C Warthog, DCS Community F-14 Tomcat, DCS Community F-16 Falcon, DCS Community, MIG-29 Fulcrum, DCS Community SU-27 Flanker and more and maybe before the next official DCS, depending of number of fan for single model, we can have 1 or 2...

That can be nice and like that you can have your Intruder ^^

And several good programmer can make super IA for multiseat adaptation, and take again the AH-64 idea and why not the MIL 24/35.

Community can too create new effect like the vapor effect like we ask since SO long time, new explosion effect and more...

[Haggart]

The main problem with that is that what we're using here are basically military training simulations converted for civil purposes. And that stuff just isn't open for extension easily, because it must be able to be trusted in full extent. For everything we can fly with, a military contract pre-existed. Altering this concept would mean giving access to the code and integration features and making them vulnerable. Besides, giving the possibility to integrate own aircraft just by alteration of some files would hurt the business possibilities of ED and the community expectation massivly - when everything is available by community hands, what is there left to expect from ED?

As much as I hate to wait (no pun intended), I fully support the business concept of the modularized DCS-series because I see the necessity and I really don't trust people to get the thing right without beeing paid for over several month, no matter how enthusiastic they're.

[Demongornot]

@Haggart, why in your pc config did you have a 8800GTS ? you have already two GTX 480...

Sorry but i have to know !! lol

[KillaALF]

Probably as a dedicated PhysX card.

[Haggart]

Probably as a dedicated PhysX card.

Yip, I had some over as spareparts and decided to integrate them in the cooling cicle (:

[hu_willy]

It's better if the next aircraft is carrier-based

[Alphamale]

Hope it is the Apache.

 

LONGBOW 3 !!!!!!!

[Squid]

[Pilotasso]

:yes: ;)