Multiplayer Patch for Black Shark to work with Flaming Cliffs 2.0 ?

[element1108]

I bought FC2 because of the patch. Mildly disappointing that it is not done yet. I am hoping it will be done before tomorrow. It would be great to fly it this weekend. On a positive note: I copied several BS missions into FC2 and they work. I had to change some of the planes to Player mode. What I am dreading is the patch will not work and all the hype will be for not. I also installed the runway mods from BS into FC2. This kind of cross compatibility is very promising.

 

The key issue here for this patch is that it works 100% or as close to it as possible. It won't be long now, besides this gives you enough time to setup FC 2.0 to the best of it's ability :).

 

I will be WELL worth the wait no doubt. :)

[Boberro]

Hope nothing wrong.... I believe. But waiting for this patch is getting longer and longer....

[element1108]

The good news is it will most likely just come OUT. As did F.C 2...just CAME out...BAM!

 

No "it will be available on Friday or Wednesday or tomorrow". I actually like it that way ;)

[Total]

LOFC2 took longer so they could make sure it was right.

 

I would expect no less in quality assurance for the DCS compatibility patch. Changing one line of code can creat 100 other bugs. I'd rather wait and have it without those other bugs :D

 

Take your time Matt :)

[Avimimus]

Now: Didn't you guys of ED test the online compability before youre released FC 2.0 ? What is the story behind this ?

 

FC 2.0 has a number of new features - it is actually somewhat more advanced than DCS:BS. Which means that DCS both needs an upgrade for online compatibility and gets an upgrade for "yipee! we get a bonus patch for DCS!"

[Distiler]

I guess that patching a game that has to be compatible with another game just released with it batch of minor known bugs is like doing a bugged patch in purpose, thinking that both will need another patch soon!

 

I really hope this all ends well :D

[Wags]

Before we can release the Black Shark compatibility patch, we need to iron out some of the FC2 bugs that were identified post-release. The team is working as fast as they can to put FC2 to bed and allow us to move more resources on to A-10C.

 

Again, when I know more I will post it.

[baton_bb]

Please, additionally repair this problem: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51695 (low fps) in this patch.

I put one`s hopes in You ED.

 

Have We any chance for this ???

 

Best regards!

[Outlaw24]

Thanks for the update Wags!

[Lightning]

Thank you Wags for the news.

Good work needs time, so please take all the time you need guys.

 

We all are very happy, that compatibility between FC2 and Black Shark is possible at all. Its worth waiting a few more days or weeks if necessary.

[EtherealN]

Now that FC 2.0 has been released, we have to notice with raising eyebrows that this simply is not the fact and that there is another patch required.

 

Now: Didn't you guys of ED test the online compability before youre released FC 2.0 ? What is the story behind this ?

 

Actually, the fact that a patch would be needed to make DCS:BS compatible was advertised way ahead (months ago), and it is also simply obvious, you know. And remember that this isn't just a compatibility patch - it was announced before FC2 release that DCS:BS would, in that patch, hopefully get the new sound engine.

 

And with any patch, you have to run QA to be sure you are not breaking something.

 

So please understand that this isn't something that is necessarily done over a lunch break. ;)

 

As for testing compatibility, I haven't verified if it was a joke or not, but there was someone that reported Ulrich logging into their FC2 server, flying a Ka-50. So I suspect they have it well in hand and just need time to do the work and QA, as well as straighten out the issues Wags mentioned.

[Vitesse2l]

Actually, the fact that a patch would be needed to make DCS:BS compatible was advertised way ahead (months ago), and it is also simply obvious, you know. And remember that this isn't just a compatibility patch - it was announced before FC2 release that DCS:BS would, in that patch, hopefully get the new sound engine.

I knew this too, because I have read the forums announcements.

 

No surprise that BS needed patching for FC2 MP.

[golfsierra2]

Actually, the fact that a patch would be needed to make DCS:BS compatible was advertised way ahead (months ago), and it is also simply obvious, you know. And remember that this isn't just a compatibility patch - it was announced before FC2 release that DCS:BS would, in that patch, hopefully get the new sound engine.

 

So it was announced in the DCS:BS part of the forum ? Sorry, I don't fly helos, consequently I don't read what is posted over there.

:smilewink:

[EtherealN]

It has been the subject of discussion in both areas. :P

 

And besides - we're talking about a patch to DCS:BS. Makes sense if said patch is discussed over there, no? ;)

[Toast]

Thanks for the news Wags. I am excited as everyone else. Perhaps we can be productive while we wait and think of how we will be able to coordinate with the fixed wing guys. Any ideas? I have heard of using smoke rockets to mark targets.

 

Are there any aircraft that can share the datalink with the shark? (I doubt it but wouldn't that be cool?)

 

So if not, how will we communicate target info. I know you can hit self coord and get your cooridantes then give range and heading info to target, or via visual refference to a known point. (North west of the comms tower.)

 

Any other ideas?

[golfsierra2]

It has been the subject of discussion in both areas. :P

May have missed it, probably buried somewhere in the 130+ pages threat 'Announcing FC2.0"

And besides - we're talking about a patch to DCS:BS. Makes sense if said patch is discussed over there, no? ;)

Never questioned that. But then the other way around: Do I have to read the DCS:BS forum section despite I don't have that sim and I'm not interested in helicopters ? Is that what you want me to tell ?

To me, the announcement was such, that with FC 2.0 I could join DCS:BS server and fly against / with Black Sharks. There wasn't a single word about a necessary patch for DCS:BS to make that happen in Wags' statement which I referred to earlier. If there was, please show it to me. I can't find that piece of information.

 

I'm not nitpicking here, but you put it as if it was a common known thing all the time, which it was not and it was never officially stated that way in Wags' announcement.

Edited April 2, 2010 by golfsierra2

[EtherealN]

If the question is about a patch release for a DCS product, then yes. ;)

 

What I gather happened is something like this:

1) FC2 is announced, mentioning DCS:BS online compatibility

2) You like that

3) The patch and it's features is discussed on the DCS section

4) Since you don't run that one, you don't read that

 

This is understandable, but I still think it fairly obvious that for getting questions answered that pertain to DCS specifically, that's the place. Though I do realize it may be a bit confusing since the two are linked here. But basically, since the change naturally has to happen in DCS:BS (since FC2 was developed after DCS:BS 1.0.1, compatibility has to "catch up" in DCS after FC2 release), that is indeed where those things happen.

[Ramstein]

Please, either way, just let them make the patch and make it a very good patch, and without any unecessary glitches.. we have the time to wait......

 

We will enjoy the quality work when it is released... whatever amount of time it takes..

 

IMHO

:joystick:

[golfsierra2]

@ EtherealN

 

Thank you. :D:D

[danny777]

ok heres a fair question, will it be available by the end of april? :)

[Lightning]

Perhaps we can be productive while we wait and think of how we will be able to coordinate with the fixed wing guys. Any ideas? I have heard of using smoke rockets to mark targets.

 

Are there any aircraft that can share the datalink with the shark? (I doubt it but wouldn't that be cool?)

 

So if not, how will we communicate target info. I know you can hit self coord and get your cooridantes then give range and heading info to target, or via visual refference to a known point. (North west of the comms tower.)

 

Any other ideas?

 

Well as far as i know there is no Aircraft in FC2 which is capable to share the data link with the shark.

 

But as you said there are several alternatives.

 

1. LUU Flares which shine with a bright white flame over the target area when dropped from high altitudes ( even night missions are possible this way without having FLIR or night vision ).

 

2. Smoke markers, which are placed from the mission designer to mark the target area which can be triggered by actions ...for example : if enemy vehicle group 01 is destroyed = activate orange smoke on new position at vehicle group 02 AND show a Textmessage for 20 seconds to tell everybody the new location of the new Vehicle group 02 ( simulated recon information ) The mission editor is very powerfull and allows a lot of simultanius actions.

 

3. Just by talking to people on the server by Teamspeak ( too bad we dont have Voice Over IP integrated into these Sim´s ... that would make communication much easier ! )

 

By the way WAGS , please can we have Voice Over IP in one of the next DCS Add Ons ?

It could be integrated by an Update for FC2 and BS too, right ? Or is it technically impossible ?

Edited April 3, 2010 by Lightning

[sweinhart3]

By the way WAGS , please can we have Voice Over IP in one of the next DCS Add Ons ?

It could be integrated by an Update for FC2 and BS too, right ? Or is it technically impossible ?

 

Its possibly impossible, or even probably improbable, but perhaps not probably impossible. One thing for certain tho is its technically a technical issue.

[danny777]

whats the probability of the patch coming out by the end of april in percentages..% ? :)

[beers]

Danny, ease up... the ED team has enuf pressure to get an excellent release. I think it is safe to say that they are not sitting on the finished product giggling at how awful it is for you to wait.

[danny777]

..im sure the april fools joke brought out some giggles :)....:(