locating enemies

[bigdog4215]

Can someone tell me how to locate enemies at long and short ranges and save the target location in the abris as a data link target and how do you select them.I've tried reading the manual,just can't seem to understand it.

[GuntiNDDS]

To add targets to your ABRIS:

 

1. Locate the Target (with your eyes)
   
2. Enable the Laser Range Finder
   
3. If you carry the helmet mounted sight, use it to put the shval near the target
   
4. Use your HOTAS mapped controls to move the aiming rectangle over the target and adjust its size accordingly
   
5. Lock the target
   
6. In the upper row on the Datalink Panel, select the target type (vehicle, Anti Air, Other, Ingress Point)
   
7. On the Lower row on the Datalink Panel press the SEND MEM button to store the target in the ABRIS.
   
8. Repeat for all targets
   

To cycle through the targets on the ABRIS, repeatly press the corrosponding target type button on the Datalink panel to switch through them. The currently selected target will blink on the ABRIS map.

 

Once you have targets in the ABRIS you can also automatcly slew shval to them by first selecting the target (see above) and then pressing the DL INGRESS button and then uncaging the shkval through your HOTAS mapped key.

 

 

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You can also have your wingman discover targets for you through the communication menu. once they find targets and you have the Datalink between you and your wingmen set up correctly, you will receive an EKRAN notice that you have been sent a Datalink Target. The target type and the number of the wingman who sent it will blink on the datalink panel. You can then click DL/SEND MEM button to store them to your abris.

Edited June 19, 2010 by GuntiNDDS

[GuntiNDDS]

you might also want to take a look at the producers note #8 video, that explains the datalink panel pretty well:

 

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?end_pos=133&scr=products&lang=en

 

I'd suggest watching the other producers note videos too, aswell as watching the ingame "Tutorial" missions. All important systems are explained there.

[Frederf]

Just so you know, the DL targets are not actually saved to the ABRIS. The memory is in the data link equipment computer. Rebooting or turning off the ABRIS doesn't erase DL targets or even prevent their use; it just displays them on the map screen.

[bigdog4215]

To add targets to your ABRIS:

 

1. Locate the Target (with your eyes)
   
2. Enable the Laser Range Finder
   
3. If you carry the helmet mounted sight, use it to put the shval near the target
   
4. Use your HOTAS mapped controls to move the aiming rectangle over the target and adjust its size accordingly
   
5. Lock the target
   
6. In the upper row on the Datalink Panel, select the target type (vehicle, Anti Air, Other, Ingress Point)
   
7. On the Lower row on the Datalink Panel press the SEND MEM button to store the target in the ABRIS.
   
8. Repeat for all targets
   

To cycle through the targets on the ABRIS, repeatly press the corrosponding target type button on the Datalink panel to switch through them. The currently selected target will blink on the ABRIS map.

 

Once you have targets in the ABRIS you can also automatcly slew shval to them by first selecting the target (see above) and then pressing the DL INGRESS button and then uncaging the shkval through your HOTAS mapped key.

 

 

- edit:

You can also have your wingman discover targets for you through the communication menu. once they find targets and you have the Datalink between you and your wingmen set up correctly, you will receive an EKRAN notice that you have been sent a Datalink Target. The target type and the number of the wingman who sent it will blink on the datalink panel. You can then click DL/SEND MEM button to store them to your abris.

I can't see anything on the shkval or outside the cockpit,it is very difficult to do when missels are being lauched at you while trying locate a target.any tips though

[Avilator]

My advice would be to read the mission briefing so you know the general area where targets are, and put yourself in a position where nobody can shoot at you. (Via terrain masking, etc...)

[isoul]

If you are fired upon your arrival you are possibly doing something wrong. Did you approach too close? Try to stay a bit further, using the what Avilator said above, and use you sensor(Shkval) to spot target.

[bigdog4215]

If you are fired upon your arrival you are possibly doing something wrong. Did you approach too close? Try to stay a bit further, using the what Avilator said above, and use you sensor(Shkval) to spot target.

I been using that mission clear tkvarcheli as my training mission but can't figure out how to approach.Do you got any advice on how to approach and what other mission you think would be a good training mission for my situation.

[isoul]

I been using that mission clear tkvarcheli as my training mission but can't figure out how to approach.Do you got any advice on how to approach and what other mission you think would be a good training mission for my situation.

 

You have to let me play it again cause I can't remember it.

 

EDIT : Probably a good approach is from the passage south to the city but I would try the passage to the west too. But you have to eliminate the HAWK battery first cause its the biggest threat in there.

Edited June 20, 2010 by isoul

[EagleEye]

I can't see anything on the shkval or outside the cockpit,it is very difficult to do when missels are being lauched at you while trying locate a target.any tips though

Yes, it`s of course not that easy and you need much training.

First you have to have an idea where the enemys position are. Scanning that area with your Shkval and look for spots which are in contrast to the terrain. Then zoom the Shkval and zoom in you`re cockpit view for better look at Shkval and for recognising the type of the threat.

If you can, fly in multiplayer. We are all very helpful.;)

[dennisllante]

that's wierd..when i played "clear tkvarcheli" i never encountered the sam hawk..although I had visual on it, it was always not operational (not sure if it was error or something or i never got the random thingy) but I've played it a couple of times..like more than 10..there was always no hawk system operational.

 

What I do here is I recon first at maximum range around 10km..I always approach from the town Gupagu (~7.5km)..I stay really low and use the hills east of it to do recon firstwatching my altitude and distance from the town closely..then slowly move closer and engaging targets of opportunity..

 

For the Wingman, I always use trail formation..I just found out he can't do NOE and trail formation is like the lowest he can go compared to other formations when Im trying to keep him alive..

 

A good knowledge with datalink engage from ingress point is also good for the AI wingy..what i do is send him to ingress point to engage targets then I sync the my vihkrs to his when engaging multiple targets..it's fun to see it..also you get to cover him..

 

hope this helps!

[bigdog4215]

that's wierd..when i played "clear tkvarcheli" i never encountered the sam hawk..although I had visual on it, it was always not operational (not sure if it was error or something or i never got the random thingy) but I've played it a couple of times..like more than 10..there was always no hawk system operational.

 

What I do here is I recon first at maximum range around 10km..I always approach from the town Gupagu (~7.5km)..I stay really low and use the hills east of it to do recon firstwatching my altitude and distance from the town closely..then slowly move closer and engaging targets of opportunity..

 

For the Wingman, I always use trail formation..I just found out he can't do NOE and trail formation is like the lowest he can go compared to other formations when Im trying to keep him alive..

 

A good knowledge with datalink engage from ingress point is also good for the AI wingy..what i do is send him to ingress point to engage targets then I sync the my vihkrs to his when engaging multiple targets..it's fun to see it..also you get to cover him..

 

hope this helps!

Every time I send him in for recon,he gets shot down

[Yurgon]

I flew "Clear Tkvarcheli" as one of my first combat missions - and never succeeded. Not exactly remembering the directions, I came at the target area from the low lands, over the hills, I even sneaked around using hills as cover and surprising them from a valley in their back. I sneaked slightly over a barrow to the only direction remaining. I came in fast and I came in slow. Whatever I tried, the SAM shot me down and took my wingman out a few moments later.

 

IMO it is a very difficult mission, so you should probably go for targets that aren't defended as strong as this one. I'm looking forward to the day I'm beating the hell out of those bastards, though. :-)

[dennisllante]

Well, recon first at maximum range..don't send the wingy. You do it..try to recon by sector..IRL NATO, they use TRPs target reference points..example a church is TRP-1..the oil fields at Tkvarcheli could be TRP-2.. TRPs are divided in quadrants....like "an avenger NE of the oilfields" or "a stinger at the hilltop" ..this will help you recon in sections and scan the whole area..

 

the idea with max range is that it is "quite safe" ..you can check the map F10 if it's enabled then draw a line with the ruler and imagine a circle with a 10km radius..look for terrain cover at max range or other avenues of approach (other than what i use Gupagu)..if a SAM is lauched, then you can still evade it (when you see the trail or when your wingy alerts you)..I don't normally send the wingy untill i've done recon work myself..

 

Scan the whole town in sectors and spend time just doing recon work..don't worry about combat gas..FARP is near anyway..take your time..and slowly you'll gain familiarization of the terrain and town..then you engage..

 

Man I played that mission so many times..I got shot down a lot..it's where I learned to be patient..and maximize the ka-50s capabilities.

[isoul]

Every time I send him in for recon,he gets shot down

 

The last time I send him he was back in one piece. I used my range finder to calculate distance to the edge of the town and send him for a recon no more than 5km deep.

 

He spotted an air defense and some armor.

[Frederf]

It may be a bug but after I send my wingman on a recon mission, even after "recon complete" he will happily report contacts over DL all day long while flying in formation. It's annoying but that means I only have to do a 1 km recon with him and he's a DL faucet with no off.

[Sulman]

That mission's good for practicing movement and terrain masking, but be warned, it's very hard.

 

The reason is Many units are obscured by trees; this works in their favour, but not in yours. There's better missions out there, you will find this one frustrating after a while.