Interview with Matt Wagner and New Screens from DCS: A10

[funkee]

And as we've heard, Black Shark will recieve all the updates that comes with DCS: A-10C, in order to make them compatible online, through some patch im guessing.

 

Warthog must be compatible with Blackshark. Otherwise it will be boring, and A10 won't get any air, non-AI opponent (i can't imagine new DCS module without some air2air confrontation).

 

And if it will be Blackshark compatible, it will be also FC2 compatible :) If not, this will be kind of defeat for ED, but I hope they will manage a task and we all meet together at 104th...

Edited June 24, 2010 by funkee

[diveplane]

looks good. however will it sound good this time?

 

wonder whats the minimum specs to run this?

[joker62]

You can expect the same, if not more, level of detail for the A-10C start-up as you saw in DCS: Black Shark. Given the A-10C is a much 'deeper' aircraft, you can expect to see a lot more options, tests, and pre-flight preparations compared to the Ka-50 though.

 

with time I hope to see this enhancement applied at Ka-50 also ...

 

 

The biggest is the radio communication system for AI flights. Each flight group can now be assigned a broadcast frequency and the player must have one of their three radios tuned to that frequency to hear them or send them orders. You now hear them take off, navigate through their route, spot targets, engage targets, take damage, etc.

 

AI flights can also now be assigned to Orbit waypoints and they can be radio ordered to push from holding points to engage targets by the player.

 

Really, an almost exhaustive work! Thank You very much!

 

Above all, will be relased a patch for Ka-50, so to apply these excellent enhancements to it?

 

Will be an option to disactivate voice player? I deeply kwon that I'm requesting or ordering.

 

Best regards.

 

antonio.

[159th_Viper]

......non-AI opponent......

 

'Opponent' denotes some type of threat that the Kamov represents to the Hog. Make no mistake, think of the Kamov as you would a Mosquito with the A10C pilot a human on a hot Summer's night around an African Camp-Fire. You might wake up with a welt or two but that Mosquito, well.....:music_whistling:

 

*Assuming* for the purposes of debate that there will be compatibility between BS and Warthog (again - assuming for the purposes of this discussion. I am not privvy to developmental plans and as such at most able to hypothesise), nothing will change from the current Status Quo. Don't go out hunting hogs.......Will end in *tears, repeatedly :P

 

 

*Read 'Map Screen'.

[amalahama]

Warthog must be compatible with Blackshark. Otherwise it will be boring, and A10 won't get any air, non-AI opponent (i can't imagine new DCS module without some air2air confrontation).

 

Yeah, a Ka-50 vs A-10C dogfight, truly exciting! </ironic>

 

Regards!!

[sobek]

Yeah, a Ka-50 vs A-10C dogfight, truly exciting! </ironic>

 

 

THIS....IS....AIRQUAKE!!!!111!!!! Haven't you noticed by now? ;)

[funkee]

Yeah, a Ka-50 vs A-10C dogfight, truly exciting!

 

Yeah, especially for A10 pilot :P But dogfight with guns? Why not? And if we got air to air missile for Kamov (i.e R-73), chances would be much more balanced.

 

Just dont tell me Ka50 cant carry a2a missiles:

Edited June 24, 2010 by funkee

[sobek]

Just dont tell me Ka50 cant carry a2a missiles:

 

1. Nobody said it can't, it just doesn't. ;)

 

2. A movie can hardly be called evidence regarding the weapon load of a helo. Airwolf carries al kinds of fancy gizmos, do you want that in DCS too? :D

[Eddie]

You want an Air to Air opponent for the A-10C?!?!?!? WTF! You DO know the hog is a CAS aircraft yeah? I really do despair at some elements of this community sometimes.

 

Rather than worrying about air quake HAWX style dogfighting, try thinking about how the A-10C and Ka-50 can work TOGETHER. Ka-50 flying as AFAC for the A-10Cs or vice versa, for example. Flying online is going to get so much better, for a start A-10C and Ka-50 will be able to give each other co-ordinates for targets rather than having to do the whole "it's over by the end of that big lake" as we have to do for those flying FC2 for example.

[funkee]

You want an Air to Air opponent for the A-10C?!?!?!? WTF!

 

Lol. C'mon man. Its just a game. Can you differ it from a real life? :) I suggest you to calm down a bit and at least respect others opinion, even if you disagree.

As we played kamov vs kamov in BS (imo much more exciting than shooting stupid AI) , we can fight kamov vs warthog in A10. But the main idea is to integrate both sims and stick ppl together.

Edited June 24, 2010 by funkee

[asparagin]

I hope A-10 will be released later next year, because only then I will afford a new pc, and I don't feel comfortable when others will play it while I can't.

 

There I said, it is this mindless egoism?

[diveplane]

I hope A-10 will be released later next year, because only then I will afford a new pc, and I don't feel comfortable when others will play it while I can't.

 

There I said, it is this mindless egoism?

 

we have yet to hear what the min specs are for running? , i think it will be a little above Blackshark ka50 or on par.

 

again we may see big speed improvements with the new game engine.

 

hopefully more options this time for tweaking.

[MTFDarkEagle]

There I said, it is this mindless egoism?

Yes :)

[sobek]

There I said, it is this mindless egoism?

 

Prepare to be beaten with wet rags :D

[159th_Viper]

.....we can fight kamov vs warthog in A10. But the main idea is to integrate both sims and stick ppl together.

 

Tell you what.......you can have 12 R-73's on your Kamov and you'll still be no better off than the poor Mosquito in my previous post :D

 

Trust me - Fact! ;)

[funkee]

I hope A-10 will be released later next year, because only then I will afford a new pc, and I don't feel comfortable when others will play it while I can't.

 

There I said, it is this mindless egoism?

Yes :)

 

You are so constructive guys.

 

So... any chance to add R-73 for Ka50 armament? I still insist that would be just a bit more than the poor Mosquito :)

Edited June 24, 2010 by funkee

[Eddie]

So... any chance to add R-73 for Ka50 armament?

 

While we're at it shall we stick AMRAAMs on the A-10C as well?:lol:

 

The Ka-50 is not capable of carrying A/A ordnance, just because they we're bolted on to the aircraft during testing doesn't mean it can carry them now.

 

Besides, even aircraft that can carry A/A weapons for self defence quite often don't. For example, we didn't fit AIM-9s to the Tornados during the Kosovo conflict, recent iraq war or now in Afghanistan. Giving pilots A/A weapons gives them the strange idea that they should stay and fight rather than escaping from the threat.

 

We've bolted many weapons to the Typhoon in testing, but it can't carry half of them in action. The AIM-9 for example was used in testing, but the in service aircraft cannot carry it, firstly because we don't hav the nessesary fittings for the pylons but also because they don't have the software. The same goes for many, many aircraft and many weapons. The F-15C carrying bombs as another example.

 

 

I still insist that would be just a bit more than the poor Mosquito :)

 

How about you explain how a slow, low flying aircraft, with no radar or ESM system and poor visibility due to the cockpit framework could possible be any less than a sitting duck. Your only hope of survival is to not be detected in the first place. Unless you are being enganged by someone who has spent his/her whole life watching hollywood movies and playing HAWX you'll never know they are there until you begin to fall to earth surrounded by fire.

 

The A-10C does have a better propect of survival if enganged WVR, but bugging out would still be the best course of action, actually engaging an air threat would be a last resort in the face of otherwise impossible escape.

 

In short, lets leave the air to air work to those aircraft designed for it. DCS is meant to be a realistic study sim for those of us who enjoy such things, those of you who want things a little less realistic have FC2 to play. Let us realism geeks have something for a change.:book:

Edited June 24, 2010 by Eddie

[Xjikz]

Hope DC:A10, DCS:BS and FC2 will be all multiplayer compatible so people continues to fly all toghether.

That the most important thing, I think. Even if A-10 will be the high-end simulator, the game will become boring because you'll just have to kill (stupid AI) ground targets, like was BS before the compatibility patch.

[EtherealN]

You are so constructive guys.

 

So... any chance to add R-73 for Ka50 armament? I still insist that would be just a bit more than the poor Mosquito :)

 

I can bolt on some inert AIM-9X on a SuperCub, therefore the SuperCub can be used for A2A.

 

True story. ;)

 

Seriously speaking: no, the Ka-50 does not employ the R-73, no matter what you saw in the russian version of AirWolf. It has been prototyped yes, and captive-carry of inert rounds has been done and such minor tests. But there is no operational use of A2A missiles on the Ka-50 (use Vikhrs in A2A mode) and therefore there will not be any R-73's on the DCS Shark. End of story. Besides - why would they want to sacrifice any of the Shark's very sparse hardpoint budget on weaponry that it will not use in it's mission? It's one thing for the hogs to carry a pair of heaters for selfdefence since Hogs cannot hide as easily and has a much better hardpoint budget than the Shark.

 

Also some interesting assymetric load problems after launching a hypothetical R-73 from a Shark, I'd expect, which might make it undesirable to bother implementing them.

Edited June 24, 2010 by EtherealN

[EtherealN]

The F-15C carrying bombs as another example.

 

Bah, doing bombing runs with the 15C is easy - just dive towards your target, drop your droptanks and level out, and then have your 2 fire some HEI rounds when the tanks have landed. :D

[MTFDarkEagle]

improv napalm? (sort of)

[funkee]

While we're at it shall we stick AMRAAMs on the A-10C as well?:lol:

 

The Ka-50 is not capable of carrying A/A ordnance, just because they we're bolted on to the aircraft during testing doesn't mean it can carry them now...

 

AMRAAMS on aircraft with no radar? :)

 

I dont care if the Ka50 can carry them now or whenever. I care of the game that would be more fun and much better balanced with some AA weapon for kamov.

The Ka50 already in FC2 is defenseless, with A10C will be even more.

 

Hope DC:A10, DCS:BS and FC2 will be all multiplayer compatible so people continues to fly all toghether.

That the most important thing. Even if A-10 will be the high-end simulator, the game will become boring because you'll just have to kill (stupid AI) ground targets, like was BS before the compatibility patch.

 

Thats exactly what i meant.

Edited June 24, 2010 by funkee

[Eddie]

Bah, doing bombing runs with the 15C is easy - just dive towards your target, drop your droptanks and level out, and then have your 2 fire some HEI rounds when the tanks have landed. :D

 

Like the theory. Not sure it'd work in practice though, jet fuel really doesn't like burning, trust me I've tried. I'll stick to proper mud moving and leave the boring A/A stuff to those of you without personalities or friends (or is that just the real life fighter jockeys) :P

 

 

AMRAAMS on aircraft with no radar? :)

 

I dont care if the Ka50 can carry them now or whenever. I care of the game that would be more fun and much better balanced with some AA weapon.

The Ka50 already in FC2 is defenseless, with A10C will be even more.

 

As I said above, those of you who want "balance" and "fun" over realism already have FC2, HAWK, Ace Combat and all the WWII 'sims' that are out there. DCS is for those of us who want realism and not half arsed air quake, which to some of us is anything but fun.

 

Just because you'd find it fun, doesn't mean everyone would. Fortunatly it's not going to happen as ED feel the same way.

 

Oh, and the Ka-50 isn't defenceless. I have succesfuly evaded fighters on many occasions online, by doing what you should do and making myself hard to see/find. How do you think real life pilots manage, they work with other assets such as fighters on BARCAP so that they don't get into a bad situation to start with. And if there are fighters heading there way and they have no fighter protection they abort the mission and either RTB or bug out to an area covered by friendly SAMs.

Edited June 24, 2010 by Eddie

[sobek]

I dont care if the Ka50 can carry them now or whenever. I care of the game that would be more fun and much better balanced with some AA weapon.

The Ka50 already in FC2 is defenseless, with A10C will be even more.

 

What is the point of buying the most realistic simulator for the desktop just to fly the simulated aircraft in a way that no RL pilot would ever dare to think about? Why not let the Ka-50 fire sharks with lasers on their heads, while your at it? To me that sounds just as absurd, pointless almost.

 

Just my 2 cents.

Edited June 24, 2010 by sobek

[funkee]

As I said above, those of you who want "balance" and "fun" over realism already have FC2...

 

I dont have :) Pissed it off due to delayed boxed release. :P And your realism will kill Blackshark very soon (at least on FC2 servers).

PS. Sorry sobek but i cant see your posts (you're in my ignore list). :)

Edited June 24, 2010 by funkee