Wishful Thinking

[hassata]

Probably yes, but:

 

TM Warthog looks like its shipping on 9/15. I know ED are doing the DX11 thing etc., but could there be some coordination in terms of release? Maybe A-10C is closer than we think?

[power5]

If it was 3 weeks out, I think we would have heard something. Would be awesome though.

[sweinhart3]

Um, the people that put out those rumors did so with absolutely no indication from ED that there was any truth in it. Those same people were pushing that ED had some kind of behind the scenes contract with TM and that was the only reason they were promoting the joystick. That and the people excited about this new HOTAS are just TM fanboys. Everyone needs to really stop accepting rumors started by a few and promoting it is likely fact. If ED or people in the know (basically I dont trust anyone that doesnt have an ED association with their name) didnt say it which in this case they didnt, ignore it. Its very likely conjecture with little truth to it.

[636_Castle]

Um, the people that put out those rumors did so with absolutely no indication from ED that there was any truth in it. Those same people were pushing that ED had some kind of behind the scenes contract with TM and that was the only reason they were promoting the joystick. That and the people excited about this new HOTAS are just TM fanboys. Everyone needs to really stop accepting rumors started by a few and promoting it is likely fact. If ED or people in the know (basically I dont trust anyone that doesnt have an ED association with their name) didnt say it which in this case they didnt, ignore it. Its very likely conjecture with little truth to it.

 

Rumors are the only thing we have to go on. If release dates and inside information isn't given to the public, who's to say they're right or wrong? hassata was only guessing. And unless there's evidence against it, he has every right to rumor a possible release date.

 

I personally would be doing cartwheels right now if the mid September guess was accurate.

[Mad Dog 7.62]

I would be extremely surprised to see it on 9-15. Sure TM is using DCS Warthog as part of the hype for its new stick, but I don't think thier sole intended market is DCS Warthog customers, and they would be silly not to ship the stick as soon as its ready to go. Personally my guess would be that we might be lucky enough to see the DCS Warthog around the end of October, if all goes perfect. Thats only a wild guess, though.

[159th_Viper]

Wishful thinking......Probably yes...

 

Oh Most definitely!

[VMFA117_Poko]

Probably yes, but:

 

TM Warthog looks like its shipping on 9/15. I know ED are doing the DX11 thing etc., but could there be some coordination in terms of release? Maybe A-10C is closer than we think?

(...)I asked Matt the question we all want the answer to — when? Like several of you, I was anticipating that all the new DirectX 11 stuff would cause a push back in the release date. Matt surprised me with the same energetic response he gave at the Thrustmaster HOTAS presentation — "absolutely 2010, unless some very unforeseen technical problem happens". So barring a "showstopper", expect DCS: A-10C Warthog to still be released in 2010 as we were told back in June. I'm guessing late, late 2010, but definitely before you head to the New Year's Party to ring in 2011.(...)

;)

[636_Castle]

It seems very logical to me to believe both companies are organizing a release date together. The TM A10 HOTAS was basically built because of DCS I believe. But Matt just posted screenshots saying they were implementing DX11. That means parts of the sim are still being coded, and they haven't even begun wrapping up the final build and testing it. As much as I want to believe it, 2-3 weeks seems like not enough time to wrap it up, get copies ready, and a launch of a huge product.

 

Are you enjoying this ED?! Seeing us create conspiracies in anticipation for your simulator!?

 

Them ==> :smoke:

Edited August 26, 2010 by 636_Castle

[amalahama]

... 2-3 weeks seems like not enough time to wrap it up, get copies ready, and a launch of a huge product.

 

Wags talks always about the ONLINE version, so it doesn't mind how long will burning all the copies take. I'm with you with the testing thing though

 

Regards!

[Deadman]

I hate to tell you Ed is to busy working on the sim But Guys that have been on the form for 5 or 6 years waiting, praying, and anticipating blowing the living crap out of ground targets, are ROTFLTAO with your conspiracy theories:thumbup: good fun

[sweinhart3]

It seems very logical to me to believe both companies are organizing a release date together. The TM A10 HOTAS was basically built because of DCS I believe. But Matt just posted screenshots saying they were implementing DX11. That means parts of the sim are still being coded, and they haven't even begun wrapping up the final build and testing it. As much as I want to believe it, 2-3 weeks seems like not enough time to wrap it up, get copies ready, and a launch of a huge product.

 

Are you enjoying this ED?! Seeing us create conspiracies in anticipation for your simulator!?

 

Them ==> :smoke:

 

That right there is also your own theory without a shread of truth in it. TM and ED's products were developed completely independantly of each other and one had nothing to do with the other. But hey, if you'd like to believe that, be me guest. Just dont get disapointed and upset when your proved wrong.

[GGTharos]

I think a lot of people are enjoying it ;)

[Krunkskimo]

OMG i cant wait until the TM/DCS A-10 Bundle!

[hassata]

"That right there is also your own theory without a shread of truth in it. TM and ED's products were developed completely independantly of each other and one had nothing to do with the other. But hey, if you'd like to believe that, be me guest. Just dont get disapointed and upset when your proved wrong."

 

Relax, no one is saying ED and TM are in cahoots. But there appears to be some coordination. The Warthog and the MFDs are going to be Plug and Play, right?

 

 

"OMG i cant wait until the TM/DCS A-10 Bundle!"

 

I'm going to hold off until the A-10C/TM Warthog/SCSimulations Pit/Custom built DX11 capable PC bundle is release. Or maybe all of that without the pit. If I had the cheese, I swear I would buy that.

Edited August 26, 2010 by hassata

[636_Castle]

That right there is also your own theory without a shread of truth in it. TM and ED's products were developed completely independantly of each other and one had nothing to do with the other. But hey, if you'd like to believe that, be me guest. Just dont get disapointed and upset when your proved wrong.

 

Wow buddy. Why don't you re-read my post? Everything I've said reinforces theories, because unless you're part of the ED or TM team, how do you know any more than I do? I didn't make a public announcement, I said I believed they were connected considering there's more than one video of the TM Warthog being used in demonstration with DCS A-10. Seems a little odd that two companies got their hands on unreleased products from each other without setting it up. Not to mention making them plug and play compatible with each other. So where's you're compelling evidence they have nothing to do with each other?

[Oscar]

...and Groom Lake is a home airfield for aliens.......

[Steel Jaw]

I doubt even ED knows for sure and only has a penciled-in target date. With software dev you can never be sure.

 

But I would like to see a new Producer note!!!

Edited August 26, 2010 by Mower

[sweinhart3]

Wow buddy. Why don't you re-read my post? Everything I've said reinforces theories, because unless you're part of the ED or TM team, how do you know any more than I do? I didn't make a public announcement, I said I believed they were connected considering there's more than one video of the TM Warthog being used in demonstration with DCS A-10. Seems a little odd that two companies got their hands on unreleased products from each other without setting it up. Not to mention making them plug and play compatible with each other. So where's you're compelling evidence they have nothing to do with each other?

 

When Microsoft released Windows 7, there were plenty of companies that had pre-release versions that wrote 64-bit drivers to be released the day of or shortly after the OS was released. Just because the two companies worked together to maintain out of the box compatibility has absolutely nothing to do with two companies putting out two seperate products having nothing to do with the other. Example, HP does not build printers for Microsoft's Windows 7. Sure they worked together to make sure they both work seamlessly but they are independant products that otherwise have nothing to do with each other.

 

Edit: Oh and my proof is that ED already told everyone what their relationship with TM was. Independant. TM started developing their product quite some time before ED started A-10C. So if anyone was making something for the other, ED would be making DCS for use with TM joysticks.

Edited August 26, 2010 by sweinhart3

[636_Castle]

Okay...well since everything posted about this that hasn't come from ED/TM is purely speculation, I highly doubt anyone is going to be too upset when you "prove" this world wrong in this oh-so competitive guessing thread. :music_whistling:

 

I think a lot of people are enjoying it ;)

 

Does 'it' mean DCS!? :smilewink:

[VMFA117_Poko]

Did ED work with TM on Warthog HOTAS? I read somewhere they worked with CH on their professional HOTAS with purpose on military market - not commercial. I might be wrong...

[636_Castle]

I believe CH products made a HOTAS for TFC A-10C and released it to the military specifically for TFC A-10C. However it wouldn't be available for the average consumer to purchase. That's where Thrustmaster stepped in...hence speculation TM made the Warthog HOTAS in place of it, for DCS A-10C.

 

CH's A-10:

 

 

Edited August 26, 2010 by 636_Castle

[hassata]

When Microsoft released Windows 7, there were plenty of companies that had pre-release versions that wrote 64-bit drivers to be released the day of or shortly after the OS was released.

 

--Yes, that's what we're hoping--

 

Just because the two companies worked together to maintain out of the box compatibility has absolutely nothing to do with two companies putting out two seperate products having nothing to do with the other. Example, HP does not build printers for Microsoft's Windows 7. Sure they worked together to make sure they both work seamlessly but they are independant products that otherwise have nothing to do with each other.

 

--No one said anything different--

 

Edit: Oh and my proof is that ED already told everyone what their relationship with TM was. Independant. TM started developing their product quite some time before ED started A-10C. So if anyone was making something for the other, ED would be making DCS for use with TM joysticks.

 

 

--"According to producer Matt Wagner of The Fighter Collection / Eagle Dynamics, they've worked with Thrustmaster to fully support the MFD Cougar Pack in their upcoming DCS: A-10C Warthog flight sim. An examination of the MFD Cougar Pack will reveal that the F-16s MFDs are very similar to the Multifunction Color Displays (MFCDs) in the A-10C. According to Matt, DCS: A-10C Warthog will automatically recognize the MFD Cougar Pack and will configure them automatically to replicate the A-10C MFCDs in the simulation."

 

http://www.simhq.com/_technology2/technology_086b.html--

Edited August 26, 2010 by hassata

[Wags]

Some of you have very active imaginations.

 

Both TM and Eagle exchanged products to better support each other. We've done the same with other hardware developers to best ensure compatibility. Nothing more.

[sweinhart3]

Some of you have very active imaginations.

 

Both TM and Eagle exchanged products to better support each other. We've done the same with other hardware developers to best ensure compatibility. Nothing more.

 

TYVM...

[Steel Jaw]

Some of you have very active imaginations.

 

Both TM and Eagle exchanged products to better support each other. We've done the same with other hardware developers to best ensure compatibility. Nothing more.

 

Dude, get back to work and give us Producer Note 3! :helpsmilie::pilotfly: