Deadman's A-10 C Cockpit Build

[Deadman]

Added and adjusted the springs and pivot pins for the Ejection handles today what a bitch to do alone!!! at least they wont lock out and need to be reset now the handles can just be pushed down in to the normal position.Instead of locking in the up position after an ejection as in the real A/C

here are some pictures of the system in the down/ up position and with the covers on with a couple of screws

 

[Duckling]

Nice work and pics DM. Thanks for posting

The first (rear) little pin underneatch the handle (front of the pivot point) not yet connected .. is that used for a trigger switch/sensor or likewise ?

 

Finally got my old ACES copy build together but needs to converted/rebuilt somewhat to fit the A-10 eject handles you made for me sometime back.

[Deadman]

Hi Gus that connection is for the ejection initiator. That starts the ejection sequence with hot gasses traveling through the system.

[JCook]

Ky - thanks for the close up pictures of the those footer support frames. I have been trying to design these things in CAD but didn't have enough detail until I saw your pictures. That is a tricky area of the ACES II - lots of stuff going on it that corner and its usually covered by the plates - so a big thank you for the detail. If you have any other pictures of the detail connections of these footer pieces please post.

 

Is that bottom front corner joined together with a spot weld?

[Deadman]

Hi J no other pictures at this time The ACES II does not have any welds on it.

4 counter sunk rivets hold the bottom front corners together. If you making a CAD drawing the best thing to do Is get a manual

Edited July 16, 2014 by Deadman

[Deadman]

Hum well a long night last nigh replaced the covers on the inside pedistal and reinstalled the right counsol and all of the controls and tonight is a total right off 12 hour day at work and a few Rum cokes time to crash and hopefully get some work on the board lay out tomorrow at job number 2.

[Deadman]

I will be in the shop working Sunday morning at 0800 my time:music_whistling:

[Deadman]

Yes I got the wrong information Mountain time in the states is currently UTC -6

[Deadman]

Well guys I have been working my but off all summer to build a new rig for DCS A-10. Ya i know wait for edge well lets plan a head and build some thing that can be upgraded if needed.

Requirements are it need to run it with the rwr and 2 mfcds all on separate displays. I would like to run 2 to 3 out side projectors so lets here what you guys can suggest to put together :thumbup:

Edited August 1, 2014 by Deadman

[agrasyuk]

DM, aside of number of monitors i don't think your task calls for anything out of ordinary. I would get the best everything i can fit into budget: i7 cpu of latest generation (or unlocked i5), ~200$ of motherboard of your preffered brand, either 770 or 780 vid card etc. unless you going to get a matrox triplehead you will need more then one vid card to hook all those extra displays up.

[Deadman]

Looking for a few more specifics. I don't build rig often or upgrade them very often . It seams to me I read here some ware that the I5 4690 k I am not sure how much RAM is needed and I guess I will need to re read Peters guide on Multimonitors

[Sabre-TLA]

I've had good luck with the best of the best recommendations by Maximum PC.

 

I'm using a Sabretooth Motherboard which has military spec thermal protection for heat control, Intel i7 3820 processor and 16gb RAM.

 

I've had good results with Intel processors though have used AMD too. They leapfrog back and forth with respect to performance and Intel has a new chip design coming near the end of this year. I'd check to see which is the best performing at the time. Tom's Hardware Guide is another good source for comparing components.

 

I'm waiting until EDGE to determine my next video card but for now I'm using an Nvidia GTX 275 2gb and I'm getting playable framerates without overclocking.

 

The one card runs my 47" LG monitor, plus a 29" RCA TV for my Helios gauges and a 7" Lilliput USB monitor for one of the MFCDs. The RCA TV covers the other MFCD.

 

The best video card right now is a GeForce GTX Titan with 12gb of memory and costs $3,399.00 here in Canada.

 

I'd stick with Nvidia as I've read about issues with AMD cards (I used to have AMD cards as well but IMO the Nvidia cards render better). This is purely subjective so choose what you feel is best. Again, Tom's Hardware Guide can help sort out which cards perform better.

 

Get a mid or large tower case. The extra space is better for heat management and make's it easier to put in components and wire them to the motherboard.

 

Best recommendation is to determine a budget then get the best components you can that fit in the budget.

[MacFevre]

DM, I've had great luck with my i5 quad core Ivy Bridge. It's 3.4 with 3.8 w/turbo boost. (Unlocked, so able to oc, I have not yet seen the need to overclock though, as I've never had any slow downs or stuttering with DCS.) It's a dedicated machine just for the pit, so that's the only real use it gets. The MB is a GigaByte GA-Z77-U5D. Video is a Geoforce 660ti. 16G. With RAM cheap, I'd go with 16G. Self built.

 

I'm a Mac man myself, so this particular rig I put together is able to also be a Hackintosh, should I choose to dual boot. Don't multi monitor except for the panels, so no opinions there.

 

Haven't done much flying, though. Windows crashed a couple days ago when doing an update, and it won't even return to a previous save point. It's been years since I've had to "work" on getting a computer to run. About as long as it's been since I tried my first Mac, so it's taken me some time in trying to get it back. Spent 3 hours yesterday with MS, and the after the sixth person they transferred me to, with that person, neither one of us were able to understand each other's non-native tongue (me in eng, him in Hindi) I gave up and just hung up.

[Deadman]

the I5 is what I have been looking at hopefully I will have a bit of time tomorrow to look at Pete's thread on mutipil monitors and decide on a GPU I am leaning twords a eye infinity type card

[Deadman]

Any one up for Golf? I am thinking of a round on Sunday morning we could meat at the Garage. at 0800 to 0815 my time

[MacFevre]

Sure! I'm pretty wiped out by the back nine, though. ;) how about I'll be there in virtual mode. :D

[Deadman]

sounds good :thumbup:

[Boltz]

I will be at the beach this weekend so no golf for me :( Looking forward to catching up for a round next time.

 

Boltz

[Deadman]

Enjoy the babes in bikinis:thumbup:

[Deadman]

We ll I got up early this morning before work.

I had read Hemp stick's How Much Resolution Is Good Enough? Last night again.

I thought it may be useful to plug in actual angles and measurements in to his formula. So this morning I got some quick measurements with the tape and clinometer on the cell.

The stick's length from pivot to the top of the grip is 25 inches for the pitch axis and a bit more for the roll axis

Total pitch angle of the stick is 20 ° ,and 15° in the roll axis measurements were taken off of the stick shaker as it is a cylinder on the stick providing a constant surface on both axis of movement.

The control I am looking at using (PC cockpit) has 10 bit resolution so lets see what we get.

25” * (20/1024) * 3.14159 /180 =0.00852 inch 0.216408 mm

25” * (15/1024) * 3.14159 /180 =0.00639 inch 0.162306 mm

Now as I understand it this is how far you need to move the stick and grip for the moment to be seen by the system Please correct me if I have miss understood . This seams like it will be quite sensitive and more that adequate.

I hope this helps you guys out a bit

[Dropship Pilot]

Hi Deadman,

 

your calculation is correct if you can fit the sensor to the stick in such a way that 100% stick travel translates in 100% sensor range.

Often you loose some sensor range due to the way the sensor is mounted to the stick.

 

An extreme example would be using a rotary potentiometer directly attached to the stick. These usually have a rotation range of 330°. So if no further measures are taken you get a resolution of 330°/1024increment.

If you put that into your formula you get 25"*330°/1024inc*Pi/180°=0.14"/inc or 3.57mm/inc.

Not a stick you would like to fly with....

 

-DSP

Edited August 24, 2014 by Dropship Pilot
Used wrong units.

[Deadman]

no pots in the system I am going to try and use the use the Sensotec amplified transducer. that are all ready mounted inline in the system.

So then i must have misunderstood Hempsticks formula it seam the angle was the travel of the stick and not the measuring device thanks for the heads up

[Boltz]

We ll I got up early this morning before work.

I had read Hemp stick's How Much Resolution Is Good Enough? Last night again.

I thought it may be useful to plug in actual angles and measurements in to his formula. So this morning I got some quick measurements with the tape and clinometer on the cell.

The stick's length from pivot to the top of the grip is 25 inches for the pitch axis and a bit more for the roll axis

Total pitch angle of the stick is 20 ° ,and 15° in the roll axis measurements were taken off of the stick shaker as it is a cylinder on the stick providing a constant surface on both axis of movement.

The control I am looking at using (PC cockpit) has 10 bit resolution so lets see what we get.

25” * (20/1024) * 3.14159 /180 =0.00852 inch 0.216408 mm

25” * (15/1024) * 3.14159 /180 =0.00639 inch 0.162306 mm

Now as I understand it this is how far you need to move the stick and grip for the moment to be seen by the system Please correct me if I have miss understood . This seams like it will be quite sensitive and more that adequate.

I hope this helps you guys out a bit

 

Thank you so much for those stick measurements. Now I can set the throw of my stick correctly :thumbup:

 

Boltz

[Deadman]

Your welcome

[Hansolo]

Hi Deadman,

 

your calculation is correct if you can fit the sensor to the stick in such a way that 100% stick travel translates in 100% sensor range.

Often you loose some sensor range due to the way the sensor is mounted to the stick.

 

An extreme example would be using a rotary potentiometer directly attached to the stick. These usually have a rotation range of 330°. So if no further measures are taken you get a resolution of 330°/1024increment.

If you put that into your formula you get 25"*330°/1024inc*Pi/180°=0.14"/inc or 3.57mm/inc.

Not a stick you would like to fly with....

 

-DSP

Very good and valid point, Dropship. However since DM's stick setup (cockpit) was originally a Hog trainer I would imagine that this had already been though of and handled. IMHO the resolution should already be near perfect provided that DM can get the Sensotec tranducers to work.

 

cheers

Hans