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[Teapot]

Or .. X-Plane could get combat ... I would be very happy with that ;o)

Basically if DCS and X-Plane could combine .. that would be flight simming heaven IMO. They both do a lot of different things extremely well .. and XP is heading the 64 bit way ... already works in beta.

 

Chaos, there's Hi Rez terrain of the Loop in XP 10, in fact all the RAF training areas are there including Wales in great geographical detail... there was in 9.70 as well but not as good.

Edited December 5, 2012 by Teapot

[Teapot]

I reckon that anyone who makes a "combat pack" for x-plane will make a mint ... at the very least they'll make me very happy LOL!

[SUBS17]

Or it could be done in FSX and use the Tacpac SDK to make it mp combat capable.

[chaos]

FSX does some things right... heck, maybe even better than DCS or X-plane but extending it to include combat is never going to work satisfactorily... and neither will X-plane. That bit should be coded in from the Day 1 In My Uneducated Opinion. That is so integral to the package. It's like designing a car without any provisions and space for the engine.

[Kuky]

maybe one day we get it in DCS?

[genbrien]

Razbam confirmed that they are doing a tornado

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=382858321800812&set=a.316309961788982.75719.316077818478863&type=1&theater

 

It won't be soon though....

[chaos]

GR4... a bit of a shame as I would've preferred a GR1. The brits are notoriously stingy with releasing any mil tech info, especially from something as recent as a "4". But, any Tornado is better than no Tornado at all so "Full Steam Ahead!".

[joey45]

^^ indeed....

 

At The Moment the only way to play in a RAF plane is in WW2.

[Moa]

For those that are interested in X-Plane, a MiG-29 has just been released (with full 3D cockpit):

http://store01.prostores.com/servlet/x-planestore/Detail?no=415

 

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujCldqdTuOQ

 

Lots of screenshots here:

https://plus.google.com/photos/118179421914452480091/albums/5818891885822014449

 

Edited December 7, 2012 by Moa

[joey45]

But I hope RazBam do the IDS/ECR versions aswel.

[fcad]

Wow, looks great! Go ahead.

[SUBS17]

FSX does some things right... heck, maybe even better than DCS or X-plane but extending it to include combat is never going to work satisfactorily... and neither will X-plane. That bit should be coded in from the Day 1 In My Uneducated Opinion. That is so integral to the package. It's like designing a car without any provisions and space for the engine.

 

I'm using FSX Tacpac by VRS at the moment and can tell you it works very well.:thumbup:

[Phantom88]

:)Coming,very,very soon

 

:thumbup:

[Teapot]

Ah, JRollon's BAE Jetstream 31/32. Hanging out for that one Phantom old mate.

BTW, I'm Kris Pryo on the other forum!

[Teapot]

It's out and fabulous!

[JaseGill]

I have asked for it for Christmas.

Mostly because now that the afternoons are officially nights as far as flight rules are concerned here (well they are when I finish work) I can continue to fly and keep my hand in without having to take time from my real job to get some hours in.

 

Am I right in believing that given I'm getting it bought for me from a UK based seller that I will get a UK based version of scenery? FSX in the UK is woeful unless you pay for scenery, airports and other extra's. I guess X Plane 10 wont come fully loaded with a photo realistic UK but I'm hoping for better than FSX standard scenery. Otherwise whats on the 8 double sided DVD's that come in the packaging?

J.

[metalnwood]

Sorry Jase, you won't get what you are looking for as far as scenery. Those 8 DVDs don't even contain one landmark in the sim but you will have very nice roads as I believe the uk has a pretty good open street map coverage which xplane uses.

 

If you think Fsx is woeful for the uk then you will not be impressed, you will need to get some additional scenery as by default even the airports do not have any buildings.

 

Those are the cons but reading your post it seems wise to point them out as you were hoping for more than Fsx on the scenery front.

[Conure]

Hi mate,

 

If you're looking for an easy photoreal solution to England for FSX you can't go wrong with this - http://fullterrain.com/product_eueng.html.

 

FSX is the place to be at the moment. The hardware now supports its potential (albeit skewed potential based on raw power rather than multicore) - but more importantly, with stuff like Rex Essentials Plus and PMDGs offerings, for anybody serious about civilian flight, unfortunately, there is not really any alternative...

[Scudslaker]

please, it s an Xplane thread and not an FSX thread,..it s your choice,and as it isn t supported since a while, FSX isn t the top of the civ sims anymore!=)..but back to topic, otherwise then FSX comunity..many people work on many places to bring more realism to scenery for airports and landscape..as you told..there are already 8 DVD within the package..for a global scenery..plausible in some pplaces..and less in others..but morst airfields kept empty. as told above the comunity builds, and provides airport packages in different qualities..most collected in the Xplane.org. you can grab what you need..to not have an overloaded installation...latest releases and the huge steps forward with latest betas..show the raising possibilities in xplane..

 

 

 

and you can get VFR UK scenery aswell for xplane in the eshops!)

[Conure]

please, it s an Xplane thread and not an FSX thread,..it s your choice,and as it isn t supported since a while, FSX isn t the top of the civ sims anymore!=)..but back to topic, otherwise then FSX comunity..many people work on many places to bring more realism to scenery for airports and landscape..as you told..there are already 8 DVD within the package..for a global scenery..plausible in some pplaces..and less in others..but morst airfields kept empty. as told above the comunity builds, and provides airport packages in different qualities..most collected in the Xplane.org. you can grab what you need..to not have an overloaded installation...latest releases and the huge steps forward with latest betas..show the raising possibilities in xplane..

 

 

 

and you can get VFR UK scenery aswell for xplane in the eshops!)

 

That's just wrong - FSX/P3D (which is and will continue to be in active development by Lockheed Martin) has the following upcoming addons...

 

PMDG Boeing 777, Flight Sim Labs A320.

 

If you can name an X-Plane aircraft that even comes close to the fidelity seen in these products (if we use Concorde X and NGX as a benchmark) then sure, but the truth is they're not willing to consider it because FSX/P3D are just better platforms.

[Moa]

Enough with the FSX, please! Use another thread for that. I know you just want to be informative but please post that to an FSX thread.

 

I'm sure all of the X-Plane users in this thread are well aware that the *discontinued* FSX exists and most are aware that Prepar3d has taken the mantle. So no need to keep hammering here, k?

 

If you can name an X-Plane aircraft that even comes close to the fidelity seen in these products (if we use Concorde X and NGX as a benchmark) then sure, but the truth is they're not willing to consider it because FSX/P3D are just better platforms.

Speaking of "platforms". X-Plane runs on my Mac, runs on Windows and runs on Linux too. Even some of the bundled aircraft in X-Plane is great (eg. the AV-8B is great fun, especially with the excellent X-Plane flight model supporting proper thrust vectoring).

 

There are heaps of first rate aircraft for X-Plane (and X-Plane is exceedingly moddable). If you don't know of them then that's ok (Google is your friend, eh?) but please don't mistake that for them not existing. Many of the sim teams that do great FSX work are now doing great X-Plane work, eg Carendo, REX etc

 

While I'm at it here is some *free* high-quality New Zealand scenery for X-Plane 10 (all credit to Andras Fabian for his hard work and generosity at giving it away):

http://www.alpilotx.net/2012/10/26/x-plane-10-new-zealand-pro-preview/

 

Gallery (comparing default X-Plane 10 scenery and X-Plane 10 New Zealand Pro scenery):

https://picasaweb.google.com/101666907909842492197/XPlane10NewZealandProRELEASE

[Conure]

Enough with the FSX, please! Use another thread for that. I know you just want to be informative but please post that to an FSX thread.

 

I'm sure all of the X-Plane users in this thread are well aware that the *discontinued* FSX exists and most are aware that Prepar3d has taken the mantle. So no need to keep hammering here, k?

 

 

Speaking of "platforms". X-Plane runs on my Mac, runs on Windows and runs on Linux too. Even some of the bundled aircraft in X-Plane is great (eg. the AV-8B is great fun, especially with the excellent X-Plane flight model supporting proper thrust vectoring).

 

There are heaps of first rate aircraft for X-Plane (and X-Plane is exceedingly moddable). If you don't know of them then that's ok (Google is your friend, eh?) but please don't mistake that for them not existing. Many of the sim teams that do great FSX work are now doing great X-Plane work, eg Carendo, REX etc

 

While I'm at it here is some *free* high-quality New Zealand scenery for X-Plane 10 (all credit to Andras Fabian for his hard work and generosity at giving it away):

http://www.alpilotx.net/2012/10/26/x-plane-10-new-zealand-pro-preview/

 

Gallery (comparing default X-Plane 10 scenery and X-Plane 10 New Zealand Pro scenery):

https://picasaweb.google.com/101666907909842492197/XPlane10NewZealandProRELEASE

 

I know and have used X-Plane 10, I'm well aware of its so called capabilities. I don't consider its running on a mac as a major advantage really, any more than I would knock any other game/sim for not spending its resources on a system which isn't build for gaming. Anybody serious about sims will be running a 64bit Windows 7 PC IMO.

 

Regarding the choice of aircraft available in X-Plane - If you are using Carenado are as an example of 'high quality aircraft' then that just further demonstrates what a joke X-Plane is for hardcore sim fans - Carenado have more in common with Microsoft Flight than they do with DCS, PMDG and FSLabs level simulators.

 

I am sure you're happy with X-Plane 10, and maybe (though not likely given how popular P3D is becoming) one day it'll be the big player. But as of right now, you can't seriously suggest to somebody that wants a real simulator with a plethora of high quality addons buys it over FSX.

[Moa]

Anybody serious about sims will be running a 64bit Windows 7 PC IMO.

 

The *serious* sims are running on Linux/Unix (see my reference). This is for numerous reasons (eg. Linux is faster, see my reference from Valve below; and Linux is more flexible etc). Anything else is a game.

 

So no point getting pissy about your favourite *game* vs anyone else's favourite *game* - especially when you are being inappropriately and consistently off-topic in the wrong thread.

 

I don't consider its running on a mac as a major advantage really, any more than I would knock any other game/sim for not spending its resources on a system which isn't build for gaming.

You may not care about multiplatform products but the world is starting to disagree. It is well known that Mac, especially the MacBooks, are excellent and even give a better Windows experience better than PCs do (eg. when using Bootcamp). The number of operating systems in use is increasing not decreasing (the Windows 'monoculture' of the previous decade is over, get used to it). In fact, given that Android (which is the marketing name of Google's customized Java running on Linux) has around two million new activations a day it turns out that Linux is now the fastest growing consumer operating system (although the users don't know it), and very soon will be the most widely used. In fact, here is a recent discussion:

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-27/tech/31419233_1_market-share-android-apps

 

Now, the point is that new software is not for Windows, or iOS, or Android, or any one thing exclusively. It must be developed cross-platform for whatever devices a customer has. This is exactly what the X-Plane developer aimed for, and why he was able to personally make $3.5 US million in a few months because he could rapidly move to iOS (while still supporting his Mac and Windows and Linux users; collecting extra revenue while he maintained a single codebase):

http://techhaze.com/2010/03/interview-with-x-plane-creator-austin-meyer/

 

That is a huge advantage for X-Plane over FSX/Prepar3d. X-Plane will always be available no matter what device you have (and I have Linux boxes, and a Mac laptop, and an Apple smartphone, an Android tablet and two Windows boxes - and having all these devices is becoming common, and you game with whatever device you have on hand at the time).

 

Ok, I'm now off-topic. But please note that professional simulation is not usually on Windows, and the majority of gaming is not on Windows (it is on phones and console - I'm not interested these either, but I do accept that bulk of gaming worldwide is now on these), and even high end games are available on other platforms than Windows (eg. many games have first rate ports on the Mac; Valve is migrating all its games to Linux for its 'Steam Box' project - and finds that Linux is noticeably faster for gaming, see: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/).

 

The trend is away from Windows monoculture, even for gaming. The next decade in gaming is not going to be like the last and it is a mistake to think so.

 

But as of right now, you can't seriously suggest to somebody that wants a real simulator with a plethora of high quality addons buys it over FSX.

The only direction for FSX usage is down. The only people buying Prepar3d are ex-FSX people, since it is not being actively retail marketed to new consumers (as far as I can see). It is good that you are happy with FSX but stop trying to push it as a good choice for new people when it is now a legacy product that has no support from its developer (and the vendor's intended successor was a dismal failure).

 

Prepar3d is supported, but the vendor does not really care about consumers (look at its price points and lack of retail marketing) like you or I.

 

It seems you are 'mistaking the heat from the embers of a dying fire' for an active product. Even worse, you choose to push this view in a forum for a different sim.

 

So please desist. The X-Plane users are not interested in personal opinions about FSX in this thread. We get the fact that you think FSX is better in some way. Fine. You've said your piece. Now please stop trolling this thread, thank you.

[metalnwood]

PMDG, etc can all jump in a lake :) I have zero interest in flying those huge things.

 

Carenado make mostly smaller GA aircraft that suits me fine and from what I read from an owner of the bonanza the carenado/XPX version is the best one around.

[Scudslaker]

get the brandnew FlyJSim 727 in highest fidelity..or the CRJ200, or B777, or Carenados for GA, there are even plenty upcoming new projects and if you follow the community activites you can see these options^^..and even the freeware Airbus, or the pyware NEO one..show me one helicopter in FSX beating Xplane helicopters, especially dreamfoils r22, b206 and the upcoming AS350 have realistic flight dynamics, or the ND BK117! xplane stands for a flight experience better then any FSX copter nor a Dodosim provided.

 

beside aspects, there is none support for a bad coded simulator, with XP10, you have the choice using release candidate or have a second betat install and be a betapilot to change the problems by reporting!

 

i banned my FSX since the first day of Xplane 10! no way back, nor to P3D.

DCS is the only candidate i am following beside xplane..

 

so the daily news!!!

 

the Xplane.org is back online, and we have a new highly detailed B727 in the store!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XT1MdVpejaY