Start up procedures checklist?

[Marmusman]

I agree, but as a newb it is overwhelming....too many buttons!!! LOL. One day, probably by the time a translate the Italian, I will know the short checklist!!

 

I think the original post was referring to the longer list.

[Snoopy]

Nope, if I turn on the radios before I've started the APU, then I don't get any response from anyone. I spent hours trying to figure out why I couldn't get a response to my request for engine start until I found a thread talking about this issue.

 

UHF should work it does with battery power only real world...

[Bullant]

UHF should work it does with battery power only real world...

 

I have no doubt that it does in the real world, but it's currently busted in the release version of the sim.

[Snoopy]

I have no doubt that it does in the real world, but it's currently busted in the release version of the sim.

 

Strange, I remember UHF working for me in the sim with just battery power.

[Bullant]

Strange, I remember UHF working for me in the sim with just battery power.

 

Perhaps it does, but VHF AM certainly doesn't (and that's what you need for engine start permission).

[Snoopy]

Perhaps it does, but VHF AM certainly doesn't (and that's what you need for engine start permission).

 

Nope and doesn't real world. In game I request start up once the APU is running.

 

Real world as long as you've been through the APU run class you can run the APU anytime, you don't need ATC permission.

 

Also real world our Pilots don't request start up from ATC, all that is done before they step to the ACFT, it's all part of their mission planning. They don't talk to ATC until requesting Taxi.

[hassata]

It's not letting me rep you Paul-awesome checklists.

[Snoopy]

It's not letting me rep you Paul-awesome checklists.

 

It's all good :D Glad I could help!

[jtmedina]

No one uses the checklist from the manual?

[Snoopy]

No one uses the checklist from the manual?

 

I don't...plus it's UGLY :D

[Marmusman]

Paul,

 

I just checked out your checklist.

 

Great!

 

Has quick list and also the control panel references on the back.

 

Thanks. Now I don't have to learn italian.

[S77th-konkussion]

I don't...plus it's UGLY :D

 

and cumbersome

[jtmedina]

I don't...plus it's UGLY :D

 

I checked out the checklist you posted

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1122275&postcount=9

 

Very useful I think from now on I'll start to use it.

 

Now I understand when you said ugly...:D

[Zenra]

Very nice, Paul, and much appreciated. Will definitely start using your checklist next flight.

[EagleEye]

Here are two I made for our VFS, normal ops and emergency procedures. These are made to fit on a 5 x 8 inch kneeboard.

Very well done and helpful.:thumbup:

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[Marder]

Hi. I made a shortend video without sound from the ramstart traning.

You can download it to your handy e.g. for starting the A10. HF

 

[hassata]

Just a couple of questions re startup as per the checklist:

 

i) At what point do we place or insure that the Fuel Flow switches are at normal?

 

ii) Could you explain the Eng Op switch to normal observe core speed at 30% then throttle over hum Eng Op switch to normal sequence?

 

iii) Could you explain the Chop test, and would that throw off EGI alignment?

 

Thanks

[hilikusopus]

Try this one out - a good looking checklist by war-hawks.net

http://war-hawks.net/A10_Training/WH_A10_Checklist.pdf

Edited March 8, 2011 by hilikusopus

[hilikusopus]

DCS A-10C Checklist

 

[edit]

Edited March 8, 2011 by hilikusopus

[Snoopy]

Just a couple of questions re startup as per the checklist:

 

i) At what point do we place or insure that the Fuel Flow switches are at normal?

 

ii) Could you explain the Eng Op switch to normal observe core speed at 30% then throttle over hum Eng Op switch to normal sequence?

 

iii) Could you explain the Chop test, and would that throw off EGI alignment?

 

Thanks

 

i) If you talking on shutdown once the engines are off you place the switches to normal

 

ii) Do you mean Eng Op switch to MOTOR observe core speed at 30% throttle over the hump? If so what you are doing is motoring the engine first to make sure there is no residential fuel from the last shutdown and get everything spinning before putting a load on the engine. With the switch in MOTOR you will only get to around 30% core speed, once you reach 30 % you place the throttles over the hump to initiate the start sequence (which doesn't truly begin until the switch is in NORMAL).

 

iii) No as long as you have your feet on the brakes you will be fine.

[S D]

On the subject of the Chop Test, is the 70% figure taken from the RL limits?

 

In the sim my core RPM goes to about 75/80% during the test every time.

[hassata]

Thanks-all clear now.

[Snoopy]

On the subject of the Chop Test, is the 70% figure taken from the RL limits?

 

In the sim my core RPM goes to about 75/80% during the test every time.

 

No I used what was in the DCS Flight Manual for that

[S D]

Ah well no worries.

[latearrival]

But what is the purpose of a chop check/test

 

Thanks Paulrkiii and the 25th VFS for the excellent checklists. I've learned a lot.

 

I've got a few more questions about the Chop Check as there's no mention of "Chop" in the manual, no mention of it in the DCSWiki, and Google just brings up pages about valves and pneumatic pumps!

 

1. Why is a Chop Check (steps 18 & 19 in the 25th VFS start up checklist) performed? What is it designed to test for exactly?

 

2. Is the procedure to move the throttle from idle to max and back to idle in 2 seconds, or to move it from idle to max in 2 seconds?

 

3. Why is this test done one engine at a time? Can the check be performed on both engines simultaneously?

 

4. Does the sim ever simulate the situation where there is residual fuel that needs to be purged? Or is this step always unnecessary in this particular sim?

 

Cheers!

Edited March 18, 2011 by latearrival
added q4