ED, I think I found a great source of info on F16

[Olgerd]

Just some pages from last version of Dash-34 or AFTTP3-3.5 could helps us much more than hundreds of "it should work as I imagine this..." messages... Thank you in any case guys!

[Cobra360]

Thats a great idea GG, no game has ever done buddy lasing before. It would be real sweet picking the aimpoint for your wingmans wepons as each makes a pass on a target.

Or to make multiple simultaneous strikes at key parts of a building or bridge to bring it down.

 

BTW

I'd like to know GG if you know how the lasers are programmed to fire different sequence laser codes or even the basic theory behind it? I always want to know how that worked IRL.

[GGTharos]

Just some pages from last version of Dash-34 or AFTTP3-3.5 could helps us much more than hundreds of "it should work as I imagine this..." messages... Thank you in any case guys!

 

 

Hehe, sorry Olerd, I wish I had access to -34's :(

[GGTharos]

Thats a great idea GG, no game has ever done buddy lasing before. It would be real sweet picking the aimpoint for your wingmans wepons as each makes a pass on a target.

Or to make multiple simultaneous strikes at key parts of a building or bridge to bring it down.

 

OFP sort of does it, but as we know, OFP is not a flight sim ... sad :P

 

BTW

I'd like to know GG if you know how the lasers are programmed to fire different sequence laser codes or even the basic theory behind it? I always want to know how that worked IRL.

 

I'll speculate, though I'm probably correct:

 

It works pretty much like your TV remote. The laser frequency is always the same (makes life easier) but the laser doesn't fire continuously, instead it fires in pulses. You can encode the pulses very much like TV remotes do: nothing for 0's (or a shorter pulse) and something (or a longer pulse) for 1's, and send a binary message this way.

 

The receiver (say an A-10 pave penny or LGB) will see the the flashing laser light, and if the binary message matches the number programmed into the device, it goes for it. If not, it ignores it.

 

As you may be able to guess, this means that the laser code can be reprogrammed on the fly, since you're just changing the flashing sequence which is controlled elctronically or electrically ;)

 

In A-10's over Kosovo one of the A-10 AFACs asked an F-16 for his laser code, which he then programmed into his pave penny so that he could see the designated target and verify that this was the target that he wanted the 16 to hit, so this is pretty much real stuff.

[SUBS17]

It should be pretty simple to model the pod though; the data may not completely accurate but you can easily guess the zoom functions, its gimbals, and laser range, and from there on all it does is give you an image ... basically like the Su-25T camera. There's very little difference in how those would be moelled, I believe, except there may be some interesting usage modes ... but still, no point in not modelling it just because you don't know everything about it; so long as it can guide GBU's and slave maverick seekers on target, it's all good i think ;)

 

And please consider laser code for buddy lasing and for use with the A-10's pave penny (A-10 AFACs in Kosovo used to verify the F-16's targets were the same that the AFAC wanted them to strike by having the 16's lase them and looking for the pave penny diamong on teh A-10 HUD) and the Wingman buddy number for AMRAAMs.

 

Thats exactly right, ED can model this, its no different to the shivkal except it would have better zoom and wider angle for these LGBs. In the pit it would be the POD view likely selected the same as in F4.

[leafer]

Actually we are reading all that your write. ;) And... beleive me it is very meaning for us to have as many relations with real pilots as it possible. So...

The first. Thank you A LOT for your efforts!

The second. Now we have Dash-1 and Dash-34 for F-16CJ. So we have decriptions for many (if not all) panels in the cockpit.

The following things are highly needed:

1) Quality sounds (videos if possible) of engine/JFS start up/shut down recorded outside/inside cockpit from various aspects (for outside).

2) Any aural cues heard from headset.

3) Videos of INS alingment/DTC loading procedure/instruments check.

4) Any HUD tapes/radio comms sources. Any weapon delivery videos are highly welcome as well.

5) Ground maitenance videos.

 

To all.

We also have famous HAF F-16C cockpit startup video. Please don't offer it again.

We have "Denver to Colorado Springs" HUD tape from http://www.fox3simulations.com (the link is broken don't try to find it) too...

;)

 

Thank you.

 

:D

 

How about I get you his email address and you can correspond directly with him. He's well educated so I believe he reads and writes English better than I can. heh Also, Im reluctant to ask him for anything regarding his job because I don't want him to think that I'm going to turn around and make money from the info/material he gave me.

 

Cheers

 

And kick some ass, ED! :D

[Olgerd]

PM his mail to me please. ;)

[leafer]

I will after I get home from work.

 

cheers

 

:D

[leafer]

I spoke to him today on the phone and I sent you private message, Olgerd. He's looking forward to hearing from you.

 

Good luck! :D :D

[Cobra360]

Hi, Olgerd. I'm just wondering if it possible if you can confirm other possible flyables that ED are going to add to this future project. Are you free to comment on any details at this very early stage?

 

Could we see the MiG-29SMT, possibly?

[Olgerd]

Now any new vehicle is at very early stage except of Ka-50. :)

Yes we have some plans on one of the advanced (export) version of MiG-29. Hopefully we are able to get very good sources on it.

The main goal of any new aircraft will be much more detail avionics.

[Cobra360]

Thats good to hear. Keep up the good work.

[leafer]

Just so you know, Olgerd; our Navy has several AV-8S and TA-V8S Harriers! :D

 

Man! Imagining flying an AV-8 variant with ED's advanced flight models and avionics...yum.

[Dmut]

Imagine how long it will take to properly modell it ;)

[33rd_bratpfanne.]

The main goal of any new aircraft will be much more detail avionics.

 

Horray, ED is walking the right way !!! Does this include much more detailed flight models? Will AFM be standard for new flyable Aircraft?

 

S!

 

Brati

[leafer]

yeah. but it will be soooo worth the efforts. much more so than clickable pit. but they gotta do what they gotta. I guess I keep on dreaming. :D

 

33rd,

 

I read that from this point on, all flyables will have AFM.

[Megile]

The main goal of any new aircraft will be much more detail avionics.

 

Excellent Olgerd!

Higher the realism the better, then you can have my $30 for your next addon instead of Fighter Ops ;)

[SUBS17]

Excellent Olgerd!

Higher the realism the better, then you can have my $30 for your next addon instead of Fighter Ops ;)

 

I'll be having both on my harddrive.

[Dmut]

I've too recommend to buy both games, because every successful title is good for a hardcore simulators genre.

[Cobra360]

I'd wait until Fighterops is released with it's intended dynamic campaign before I'd buy it.

Then it will be worth paying for. I agree every successful title is good for the genre but it's going to have to be good game/sim to be successful, the hardcore sim community have some very high standards for new games to live up to.

[JaBoG32_Chrissi]

Hi Olgerd,

 

If you need some information about weapon delivery, then I could recommend you the video "Skullvipers02".

 

Here's the link:

http://www.virtual-jabog32.de/downloads/get_download.php?id=32

 

http://www.virtual-jabog32.de/downloads/downloads_selected.php?subcat=25&sort=&sortorder=&page=2

 

Due to the issue, that we've very much traffic on our website, it could be possible that the download would not work (because of the traffic limit).

If so, then try again later in about 1-2 hours. :)

[Olgerd]

Thanks. We have this video.

[Pilotasso]

If ED is considering what countries will be featured for F-16's in the future SIM heres a teaser: The first F-16BM out of my countries Assembly line. ;)

[192nd_Erdem]

That's two seater,there won't be two seaters flyable :P :D

[Olgerd]

We are thinking about it. As it is well known there is two very complicated areas - network (two players controls one aircraft) and AI. We have not ready solutions yet, but we wanna do it.