Start up procedure problem

[ScEBlack1]

Hello all

 

I am trying to fly Dragons JTAC day mission and each time I start in the hanger with engines off.

 

so , I hit RWIN+HOME (?correct buttons) to start my engines (not manually starting them, just quick start) and they seem to start up and some buttons are being pressed, but, when my canopy closes the engines start winding down then there is nothing happening?

 

I have on my TM Hog Hotas the APU in start position and the Fuel flow buttons up, can someone explain what it is that I am doing wrong please? thanks alot.

[Nate--IRL--]

Try moving your throttles to Idle before the Canopy closes?

 

Nate

[ScEBlack1]

Ahh ok thanks Nate.

[ScEBlack1]

Ok this did not work and I would like to hear from those who use the TM Hog Hotas if there hotas interferes with the scripted start up procedure? do I need to set my Hotas buttons a certain way so the scripted start up works such as Throttle idle, APU switch off, etc, etc.

 

What is happening is that I am starting on a Ramp and push the Rwin + Home button to start the start up script and the engine sounds start up, a few buttons are clicked, the canopy closes and then it stops and no more clicks or engine sounds. Nate said to put my throttle at idle before canopy closes whic I did and the Master caution light/sound comes on and after awhile it all stops again....what am I doing wrong?

[Zenra]

Ok this did not work and I would like to hear from those who use the TM Hog Hotas if there hotas interferes with the scripted start up procedure? do I need to set my Hotas buttons a certain way so the scripted start up works such as Throttle idle, APU switch off, etc, etc.

 

What is happening is that I am starting on a Ramp and push the Rwin + Home button to start the start up script and the engine sounds start up, a few buttons are clicked, the canopy closes and then it stops and no more clicks or engine sounds. Nate said to put my throttle at idle before canopy closes whic I did and the Master caution light/sound comes on and after awhile it all stops again....what am I doing wrong?

 

I would suggest placing both throttles in the idle position before initiating the auto-start sequence.

[Conure]

I would suggest placing both throttles in the idle position before initiating the auto-start sequence.

 

I was going to say the same thing. Also ensure all switches on the HOTAS are in the off position! Other than that I'm not sure - Though I'd thoroughly recommending learning the start up procedure yourself as it will teach you (to some extent) the significance of some systems upon others, and improve your systems knowledge a lot.

 

It's also very satisfying the first time you do it!

[ScEBlack1]

None of it worked, guess I will need to learn the manual way asap.

[Pteradon]

I had the same problem with another mission.

Turned out, i had to set the throttle back in "Off" instead of "Idle".

 

Before you start the engines with R-win and Home, push the throttle to max and back in "Off".

Edited March 10, 2011 by Pteradon

[Creelers]

Isn't it L ALT + HOME and L CTRL + HOME to put the throttles to idle?

[ScEBlack1]

Ok this is becoming frustrating to say the least. I am trying to do a ramp start and my throttles will not move up into idle, nor does the key press Lalt + Home and Ralt + Home do anything what so ever, when I fly instant missions the throttles work obviously, but, when trying ramp start they do not move, but, all the other buttons move such as APU, Fuel Flow etc, etc. I need help please because I cannot fly any mission what so ever unless it is an air mission...boring.

[Ninjaofdoom]

RAlt+Home and RCtrl+Home are the keys to move your throttles into Idle. It has worked every time for me. Have you changed any button mappings?

 

Side Note: I have an X52 Pro so I cant physically move my throttle to Off or Idle.

[Pteradon]

This evening i wanted to fly a mission on multiplay,

but after the fifth plane i was able to start up both engines.

 

Because i've still to learn to start up manual, i use the R.Win + Home.

Most of the time the Apu runs full, canopy close and after about 30 seconds the Apu stalls without cranking the engine.

Sometimes it did manage to turn on the right engine.

 

With plane #6, the startup sequence did not have any problems. (Like the 5 attemps before, i had the throttle in "Off".)

[WarriorX]

I encourage you all to grab one of the many fine Ramp Start Checklist's floating around here and learn the startup procedure.

 

Many of the switches you interact with during startup are used in Emergency Procedures, so becoming familiar with them will help you when every second counts during a engine flameout for example.

 

I believe you will find it does not take a lot of time to master, and it will add to your appreciation to DCS for the level of detail that they put in to this.

[El_Roto]

Nothing like doing a re-start at 4,000 feet after a double flame-out to make you appreciate learning manual start-up procedures. :joystick:

[robmlufc]

Fuel pumps

[EinsteinEP]

jessi1, can you post a track? Maybe we can see what's going on in your recording.

[ScEBlack1]

I apologize for not getting back sooner, been busy with the little one. I figured it out, it was Ralt + Home and Rcntrl + Home instead of left and I have since learned the start up procedure, quite simple really after only a few times, thanks all for the help.

[Chops]

Turn on the 4 Fuel Pump switches located on the left console

[Spetz]

None of it worked, guess I will need to learn the manual way asap.

 

The manual start is actually very easy once you do it 2 or 3 times. MUCH easier I find then with DCS BS..which still gives me issues after over a year of flying it..

[cypher_142]

its RALT+HOME and RCTRL+HOME to move the throttles to idle unless you have changed the key commands it should work every time.

[Pteradon]

Atm im using the checklist from the 25th VFS, for starting up manual.

In SP mode i have no problem so far, but when i try to starting up in MP i have.

 

All switches on the TM Warthog hotas are in "off".

Throttle stands in "off".

 

Doing everything the same as in SP mode, but when i start up the APU, the needle of oil pressure right engine also starts to climb up.

The throttle of both engines are still in "off" position.

The pressure of the right engine climbs up to 20 PSI.

Because of that, the APU slowly climbs to about 57% and then it stalls.

 

Can somebody help / tell me, what im doing wrong?

[ScEBlack1]

My problem which is now fixed is NOT having the throttle pulled back and over the "hump", in other words lift up on your throttle and pull it back over the "hump", then when you go to put it in idle to start the engines LIFT UP and over the "hump" and this will start the engines properly.

[S77th-konkussion]

yeah- basically what Jessi said. I don't own a WH- but if 1 of your engines is trying to spool upon powering the APU than it seems to me that your stick is not over the detent (hump) or has malfunctioned in a manner that this is the result.

 

I will assume- due to ignorance- that TARGET has a calibration function and that this is in good order?

[doright]

Just a shot in the dark. Have you tried checking/unchecking the "Synchronise Cockpit Controls with HOTAS Controls at Mission Start" on the MISC tab of OPTIONS page.

[Pteradon]

Ok, it also happens now in SP mode.

 

In the option menu, the "Synchronise Cockpit Controls with HOTAS Controls at Mission Start" is checked.

When starting up, i set the throttle over the "hump" into the "off" position.

Normally when the APU stabelizes, i will turn on the APU GEN, pull throttle of the left engine over the "hump" and push switch L ENG OPER, like its written in the checklist.

 

I've now a track of it, of wat happend. (i left the whole radio setup out of it)

 

I've no idea / clue wat i'm doing wrong:(

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