KLaFaille Posted April 3, 2011 Author Posted April 3, 2011 Thanks pitbldr! Yes that's the plan. A bit crazy, I know, but after all the other work that went into getting this as close to real as possible, why not? :)
pitbldr Posted April 3, 2011 Posted April 3, 2011 True, it would be the icing on the cake! :) Crazy?? I think most would call this entire hobby crazy! I recently told friend what I was working on it and I got a blank stare in return. :lol:
BHawthorne Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 True, it would be the icing on the cake! :) Crazy?? I think most would call this entire hobby crazy! I recently told friend what I was working on it and I got a blank stare in return. :lol: I got a bit of a chuckle out of that also. But there is a distinction that needs to be made -- there is constructive crazy and then there is destructive crazy. I'd like to believe this sort of hobby is constructive crazy. :lol:
pitbldr Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 I got a bit of a chuckle out of that also. But there is a distinction that needs to be made -- there is constructive crazy and then there is destructive crazy. I'd like to believe this sort of hobby is constructive crazy. :lol: True, but it can be such a fine line! :laugh:
Feed Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Depends ... constructive for the soul, destructive to the wallet.
Tnt Snipes Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 KLaFaille have you figured out how many of BU0836X cards will be utilized in completing the cockpit?? and how are going to attach all of them to your pc...?? cause i have heard that a pc cant take alot of usb's at the same time... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
KLaFaille Posted April 5, 2011 Author Posted April 5, 2011 KLaFaille have you figured out how many of BU0836X cards will be utilized in completing the cockpit?? and how are going to attach all of them to your pc...?? cause i have heard that a pc cant take alot of usb's at the same time... I don't plan on using the BU0836X cards for the rest of the components. I'm not sure what option I'll go with there, but 32 inputs on Leo's cards just limits you too much apart from the UFC or something similar. Unrelated to pitbuilding but on the subject of USB, I'm not sure what the limit is for inputs. I can say though that right now I have 14 various USB doodads plugged into this PC with no issues. Ah the days before all this plug and play stuff, when even something as simple as installing a modem card could require hours of enjoyment fiddling with IRQs and various other hardware nuances before it even worked.
Tnt Snipes Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 I don't plan on using the BU0836X cards for the rest of the components. I'm not sure what option I'll go with there, but 32 inputs on Leo's cards just limits you too much apart from the UFC or something similar. Unrelated to pitbuilding but on the subject of USB, I'm not sure what the limit is for inputs. I can say though that right now I have 14 various USB doodads plugged into this PC with no issues. Ah the days before all this plug and play stuff, when even something as simple as installing a modem card could require hours of enjoyment fiddling with IRQs and various other hardware nuances before it even worked. How about using Master card and usb expansion cards by Opencockpits??? any insight on these...??? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
71st_Mastiff Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) how many can one CPU handle? Here's the count ripped off of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus A USB host may have multiple host controllers and each host controller may provide one or more USB ports. Up to 127 devices, including hub devices if present, may be connected to a single host controller It also I do believe depends on your PSU too. Also if your running powered USB's will help too. Edited April 5, 2011 by Mastiff "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
Tnt Snipes Posted April 5, 2011 Posted April 5, 2011 how many can one CPU handle? Here's the count ripped off of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus A USB host may have multiple host controllers and each host controller may provide one or more USB ports. Up to 127 devices, including hub devices if present, may be connected to a single host controller It also I do believe depends on your PSU too. Also if your running powered USB's will help too. So i can use several BU0836X cards if a single usb can handle 127 devices, but the Game DCS A10C will read each card as a single human interface...right? if so.. wont the game go mad say if i put 10 BU0836X cards other than my Joystick... Or is it better to get 2 or 3 Master cards attcah them through a USB Expansion card... in this case the game will read it as one Human interface with several input option...? which one is better...?? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
KLaFaille Posted April 6, 2011 Author Posted April 6, 2011 You could use all Bu0836X cards, but in the end I think the cost would be greater than using another option such as Open Cockpit cards or PHCC or something similar. Leo's cards can't handle outputs for lights and indicators whereas the others can. Regardless of the route you take, there is software out there that allows you to take all of your HID devices and merge them into one "virtual" controller. DCS will see only one device that you assign commands to. Red
KLaFaille Posted April 6, 2011 Author Posted April 6, 2011 I was playing around with my IFF panel, working on the pinout and got some of the lighting to work. This panel is has Class 1 NVIS Green A backlighting. It's made for 28V, but I cranked it up a bit for brightness.
whartsell Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 How about using Master card and usb expansion cards by Opencockpits??? any insight on these...??? +1 for opencockpit cards...i have been using them for POC and love em Arduino,EOS and Helios Tutorial Static ATC menu mod
KLaFaille Posted April 6, 2011 Author Posted April 6, 2011 .. Thanks for that info Mastiff, I just learned something new. :smartass: Red
ED Team Olgerd Posted April 12, 2011 ED Team Posted April 12, 2011 New panel for the pit arrived today, a real C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder Set. It's in wonderful condition, very little wear on the plate and knobs and everything works like it should, mechanically at least. I don't have the ability to test it electrically yet, but I have little doubts that it is electrically sound. The switches are really quite beefy, and please ignore the tape in the video, the locking action on the rotaries is very stiff and I needed a third hand. :) Attached are a bunch of photos for reference, the TM for the panel, and a video showing the positions of all the various knobs and switches. Follow the photos through for the full size images on my photostream. C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder (1 of 9).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder (3 of 9).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder (4 of 9).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder (5 of 9).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder (6 of 9).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder (7 of 9).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder (8 of 9).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr (THANK YOU LORD for these being front release pins. I really, really, REALLY, don't like rear release pins. :evil:) C-6280A(P)/APX IFF Transponder (9 of 9).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr TECH MANUAL: http://www.tpub.com/content/radiosets/TM-11-5841-268-23P/TM-11-5841-268-23P0001.htm Enjoy, Red Thanks for the video. We are going to change the in-game implementation of the panel to make some switches spring loaded like they are in the video. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич.
Alex_rcpilot Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 Dude I'd love to see you get the pitch and roll motions working in that ADI. lol
ED Team Olgerd Posted April 12, 2011 ED Team Posted April 12, 2011 Btw, if anyone needs the C-6280A(P) manual in pdf form, here is the link - http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-11-5841-268-23P.pdf [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич.
ED Team Olgerd Posted April 12, 2011 ED Team Posted April 12, 2011 And another manual for C-6280A(P) - http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-11-5841-268-25.pdf [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич.
Avilator Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 Btw, if anyone needs the C-6280A(P) manual in pdf form, here is the link - http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-11-5841-268-23P.pdf And another manual for C-6280A(P) - http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-11-5841-268-25.pdf Dude, thanks! Now I can reverse-engineer the thumbwheel assemblies.:thumbup: I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
ED Team Olgerd Posted April 13, 2011 ED Team Posted April 13, 2011 The TACAN panel showed up yesterday. Functionally it's fine, it just needs a few missing pieces replaced, the clear plexi replaced, and a cleaning. The volume knob was missing so I just threw on a knob that I had lying around, that's not the proper one. TACAN (1 of 1).jpg by KLaFaille, on Flickr Would it be possible to see a video of its backlighting? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич.
Deadman Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 It looks like he is missing at least two of the lamp holders, These are an older style light plate from the 70s. I will try to light mine later tonight and post a picture of it even though its not an NVG panel. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
y2kiah Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 ... lamp holders I always wondered what those little things were :thumbup:
KLaFaille Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Yeah theres a rudimentary circuit board under the faceplate for the lights and those two light holders are totally gone.. I may just shit can the board or solder LEDs to it. Avilator, for what the iff panels go for, you can find them for 50-60 pretty commonly and with a bit of patience, it would be easier to get a real one. Buying the parts to make one from scratch would likely cost more than a complete real unit. My .02
Avilator Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Thanks for the info.:thumbup: I haven't really researched the cost of getting a real panel. Bur the reverse-engineering will still be an interesting exercise.:) I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
Deadman Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 The unit with out knobs http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/Deadman-722/control%20Head/IMG_2124.jpg Face plate removed http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/Deadman-722/control%20Head/IMG_2125.jpg Front and back of face plate http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/Deadman-722/control%20Head/IMG_1433.jpg http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/Deadman-722/control%20Head/IMG_1435.jpg Front panel lit up http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/Deadman-722/control%20Head/IMG_2129.jpg reverse-engineering:lol: just get one off of eBay $100.00 and save your time for flying http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/Deadman-722/control%20Head/IMG_2127.jpg https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Recommended Posts