Preliminary 1.1.0.9 Change Log

[GGTharos]

Perhaps the sim should come with a ... HOTAS sim :D

 

It is essential to understand the HOTAS first - in fact, the military version of the sim is specifically geared to help people learn it among other things in the cockpit.

 

It is absolutely essential that you set up your HOTAS first. At first, you WILL have some issues because you won't be able to remember which hat does what, but this goes away with a little practice.

 

After that, the training should be easy enough to understand - frankly, I find the in-game training and the manual fairly good, and this is supplemented by user contributed training materials and checklists and other documents as well.

 

Unfortunately, there's also only so much space in the manual: The aircraft has a good number of thick manuals that come with it, and you'd have to read the -1 and -34 to know absolutely everything /just/ about operation of the aircraft.

 

There's also limited time in which to make training missions - can't really teach you every mode of failure there is. But the neat thing is ... ok, so you run into a few snags with this sim, but the knowledge you'll gain here will transfer readily to other simulators, including, obviously, future DCS modules.

 

Combat Flight simulation is a very complex thing - and like Oleg said, training can always be improved ... but please do keep in mind there's a limit to the amount of training that can be provided by ED. This is why you have this forum to come to ask questions on as well - so you're not left with zero resources, all on your own.

 

Still learning things like that. Thanks, I hadn't noticed it.

 

The manual is fine and good and whatnot, but it doesn't actually teach you much, and some of the tutorial videos don't tell you how to do some things, they often assume you know what's what and how to achieve the final goal, but not necessarily how to perform the steps leading up to that goal so you end up chasing your tail trying to understand what the tutor means.

 

The training missions built into the sim aren't that much help either.

Edited June 25, 2011 by GGTharos

[RobAnt]

Thanks guys, your input is greatly appreciated.

 

FYI, and not really pertinent, the first simulator I flew was the original Jaguar simulator at the OCU, RAF Lossiemouth in the '70's. I didn't get much help and simply took off and followed verbal turning cues that took me down to for a bombing run on the Severn bridge near Bristol. It always seemed to last just a minute or two. I only flew it once with the full motion system engaged.

 

Of course it doesn't mean I know anything except how to take off and fly straight and level.

 

:D:D

 

Apparently they always needed someone to sit in the hot seat during calibration settings at night.

 

Of course I don't remember his name now, but I'd like to thank the guy who invited me to do a couple of them. We're talking about the mid-1970's.

Edited June 25, 2011 by RobAnt

[LostOblivion]

Any update on time of release, ED? Can't wait for this patch! :)

[GGTharos]

Darnit ... and here were taking bets on whether we'd get to release it before anyone asked 'eta' ...

 

So, without further adeu!

 

'When it's done™' :D

Edited July 5, 2011 by EtherealN
Fixed it for you. :D

[EtherealN]

Fixed™ it for you. :)

[LostOblivion]

Darnit ... and here were taking bets on whether we'd get to release it before anyone asked 'eta' ...

 

So, without further adeu!

 

'When it's done™' :D

 

I asked because someone told me to in a letter I received with some money included. :joystick:

[Frostiken]

That trademark is that of 3D Realms, right?

 

Wait, didn't work out very well for them :D

 

I hate getting these changelogs early because I'm always all excited and shit waiting for it :) Really can't wait for the ME changes.

 

Also about the IFFCC BIT... anyone ever think about actually making the BIT interactive? ('Set EAC switch to arm...' etc.)

 

Totally pointless and useless, but the very first time I ran the BIT I actually followed the movements around until I realized it went on without me.

Edited July 5, 2011 by Frostiken

[EtherealN]

That trademark is that of 3D Realms, right?

 

ED does it right�™ ;)

 

I hate getting these changelogs early because I'm always all excited and shit waiting for it :) Really can't wait for the ME changes.

 

While I understand that a case of blueballs might be caused by them, they do save us from seing 5 billion posts asking whether Feature X or Bug Y is in the patch. :P

[LostOblivion]

I think it's nice you post them, as it's nice to give us something to wait for/look forward to. ;)

[Frostiken]

Well most important to me is having the correct changelog when the patch does come out, since features get added and dropped, not knowing that something was changed in say, how GBUs are handled by the physics could cause confusion. This isn't too bad in this but in other games can cause a real headache, especially balance changes where it's unclear if it's a bug or not.

 

Regardless... one thing that would be nice is a sort of 'special attention' page of the Patcher that will draw attention to particularly important changes. After the last patch where all the idiots came on here to try to figure out why EAC wouldn't engage, it's clear that too many people are NOT reading the changelog, so perhaps a special pop-up or semi-unskippable page that will detail the major control / functional changes only would alleviate some of it...

 

ie: "Axis of engines sound was reversed" wouldn't be on there, but "Emergency handles now only actuate on right-clicks" would be, so at least SOME people who just blindly apply patches would realize there's actually a changes in the changelog :D

 

 

In this case:

 

 

- "The Shore" and "Devil's Cross" campaigns removed. These 3rd party campaigns are available on the File Exchange. http://files.lockon.ru/en/

- Magnetic heading indication in HARS mode was made functional. Excessive HARS attitude gyro precession was fixed. HARS Fast Erect button should work correctly now.

- Manual MFCD power knob implemented. Must turn on during ramp start.

- GAU-8 Clearing Cycle was modeled. If GUN ARM switch is set to OFF less than 2.5 seconds after gun trigger was released, GUN UNSAFE will be lit on Caution Light Panel. Gun will jam on the next fire attempt.

 

 

Probably should be the big notes, though maybe not the last one since I imagine it's fairly rare that that happens.

Edited July 5, 2011 by Frostiken

[EtherealN]

Please mind your manners. You won't make friends through making broad statements about people being "idiots".

 

See rule 1.2. Link in my signature. Thanks.

[Frostiken]

Fair enough, but in my opinion if you install a piece of software on your computer without attempting to even try to find out what it does, that makes you, well... I mean the only case could be made for Steam but it even gives you a link directly to changes when it updates. There's really zero excuse except simple ignorance.

[EtherealN]

Well, one obvious example would be the Steam autopatcher? ;)

[213]

a poor reader

[Olgerd]

Also about the IFFCC BIT... anyone ever think about actually making the BIT interactive? ('Set EAC switch to arm...' etc.)

 

Totally pointless and useless, but the very first time I ran the BIT I actually followed the movements around until I realized it went on without me.

 

Unfortunately IFFCC BIT is still not interactive.

[LostOblivion]

How will the DVADR be implemented? I guess you'll only make the switches functional, but this is still better than nothing. :) Annoying having dead switches in an otherwise fully interactive cockpit.:megalol:

[SmokeyTheLung]

^^^ it would be pretty slick if we could review our flights and highlight reels the way real pilots do.

 

+1 for DVADR functionality!

[Olgerd]

How will the DVADR be implemented? I guess you'll only make the switches functional, but this is still better than nothing. :) Annoying having dead switches in an otherwise fully interactive cockpit.:megalol:

 

The only functionality there is that you will get amber END light ON after 5 hours of continuous operation. :)

[Scorpi]

Are there new info about the 1.1.0.9 patch?

[Wags]

No real update. 1.1.0.9 is in testing.

[cichlidfan]

^^^ it would be pretty slick if we could review our flights and highlight reels the way real pilots do.

 

+1 for DVADR functionality!

 

I will settle for the regular tracks functioning properly.:(

[jazjar]

Will the Shore and Devil's Cross campaigns, the ones from the file exchange actually work completely now?

[SmokeyTheLung]

I will settle for the regular tracks functioning properly.:(

 

Fair enough,

 

Definitely one of those small details that's really not worth the time, especally with track replays and TacView (which is priceless BTW)

 

I still think it would be pretty cool though!

[cichlidfan]

TacView (which is priceless BTW)

 

I still think it would be pretty cool though!

 

No arguement there!:) TacView is a must!

[amalahama]

The only functionality there is that you will get amber END light ON after 5 hours of continuous operation. :)

 

I feel sorrow at the poor beta guy responsible to test this :D

 

Regards!