DCS Flying Legend Aircraft

[leafer]

 

 

 

Man, that was uber flying! The pilot hand movement adds to the immersion nicely.

 

Does it use the A-10 flight model and is it available to download?

[ALDEGA]

Mmm, DCS: Orbiter or DCS: Apollo

DCS:Enterprise :D

[VBARhino]

DCS: X-13

 

[Ells228]

Mmm, DCS: Orbiter or DCS: Apollo

 

:joystick:

 

Second star to the right and straight on till morning...

 

DCS:Tinkerbel Fairy Dust or DCS: Peter Pan

[Phantom88]

 

Nuff said!

[Bucic]

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Nuff said!

Prop AND radial AND variable pitch (prop) - that would be awesome!:pilotfly:

 

A raw aircraft with FM from ED...... I will make a 500$ set of controls and will fly in-ground effect, alternately kicking rudders fully with low speed high prop pitch setting ALL - DAY - LONG! :D

[ZQuickSilverZ]

I never could understand why people like the stealth so much. It takes a nice photo but when you see it in real life it looks kind of...... dumpy. The stealth does touch and goes (rarely I have only seen it twice in 11 years though it has been there more often than that) where I work. You can not hear the stealth land but when it takes off it is anything but stealthy (it is much MUCH louder than the F-16).

[EtherealN]

"Stealth" has nothing to do with sound... ;)

 

And I am assuming that by "the stealth" you mean the F-117? As for landing and takeoff sounds, why would they need to hide from their own base? :P

[Jona33]

"Stealth" has nothing to do with sound... ;)

 

And I am assuming that by "the stealth" you mean the F-117? As for landing and takeoff sounds, why would they need to hide from their own base? :P

 

Paranoid pilots?

 

Wait, I've got it, the pilots were aliens and couldn't risk discovery. :D Sorry for being off topic. Mosquito for the WIN.

[Bearitall]

Back on Track...:thumbup:

 

Looking forward to the P-51D Mustang....Second World War changer...in the Air Combat Scene

[sobek]

alternately kicking rudders fully with low speed high prop pitch setting ALL - DAY - LONG! :D

 

You like wrecking your ride? :)

[Bucic]

You like wrecking your ride? :)

High prop pitch setting - not maximum :sly: I would ride on the edge of the continuous manifold pressure limitation.

 

Let me bring the wear (detoriation) up again. So far in DCS ED has omitted modeling it and didn't even reach for cases where it wouldn't require much effort to make possible to damage something by operator (player) neglect *** e.g. AFAIK in reality the Ka-50 APU would overheat/burn in case of stoppage before fuel supply is cut off. With a vintage aircraft a similar omission will simply result in poor flight experience as those A/Cs were very susceptible to mistreatment. For example in P-47 yanking the turbocharger control lever from full to minimum too fast causes, IIRC, a shaft to brake immediately! Use the propeller for braking in a dive too eagerly and you'll overpeed and fry the engine.

 

I realize previous games made players used to not paying any attention to engines but in reality there is as much of flying the actual A/C as flying the engine. You can quote me on that :D

 

Edit:

*** Although I do recall the pitot overheat in Warthog...

Edited November 20, 2011 by Bucic

[sobek]

High prop pitch setting - not maximum :sly: I would ride on the edge of the continuous manifold pressure limitation.

 

I'm not talking about the engine. If you kick the rudder close to the ground, your life is over. ;)

 

 

So far in DCS ED has omitted modeling it and didn't even reach for cases where it wouldn't require much effort to make possible to damage something by operator (player) neglect ***

 

Not true, both BS and A-10 feature engine wear, which becomes excessive if the engines are abused. The APU part is true, though.

[RPY Variable]

I don't think it will be a prop. I think the main reason of the "flying legend" was the difficult access to reliable information of modern fighters. Older fighters information should be more accessible. When I read "flying Legends" the firs aircraft that whent into my mind was the Tomcat. It also has the advantage that it can be used in join operations with the F-18, if that's the next module. Then, there is the F-4.. but I think the F-14 would be more reasonable.

[Bucic]

I'm not talking about the engine. If you kick the rudder close to the ground, your life is over. ;)

This is getting tiresome :D Do I really have to provide exact flight parameters that I'd use that would allow me to do it for a long time and stay alive? :P

 

Not true, both BS and A-10 feature engine wear, which becomes excessive if the engines are abused. The APU part is true, though.

That's something new. :huh: I've been lurking through the forums for years and I've been playing BS for 2 years and I've never heard of practical wear applications in DCS.

[sobek]

That's something new. :huh: I've been lurking through the forums for years and I've been playing BS for 2 years and I've never heard of practical wear applications in DCS.

 

If you exceed maximum continuous in the black shark for too long, the engines will start to deteriorate, although it happens very slowly, maybe it is undermodelled. Try shutting off the EEG and yank the engines, you'll see what happens then. :music_whistling: You need to be able to use the engine performance monitoring gauge on the upper right panel front of the fire extinguisher system to fully appreciate what's happening.

 

In the A-10 it is a little harder to damage the engines since they are able to run on full mil continuous, AFAIK. I've personally experienced some flameouts from extreme maneuvering after which the engine did no longer perform fully once relit. Hot shut downs from full mil are pretty certain to hurt the engine, last i tried.

Edited November 20, 2011 by sobek

[sobek]

I don't think it will be a prop. I think the main reason of the "flying legend" was the difficult access to reliable information of modern fighters. Older fighters information should be more accessible. When I read "flying Legends" the firs aircraft that whent into my mind was the Tomcat. It also has the advantage that it can be used in join operations with the F-18, if that's the next module. Then, there is the F-4.. but I think the F-14 would be more reasonable.

 

O_o

 

If i were you, i'd ask Doctor Google what he thinks that Flying Legends stands for.

 

And then think about who's a producer for the DCS series. :)

[159th_Viper]

....the Tomcat......

 

No no no no please no.......

[Bucic]

If you exceed maximum continuous in the black shark for too long, the engines will start to deteriorate, although it happens very slowly, maybe it is undermodelled. Try shutting of the EEG and yank the engines, you'll see what happens then.

From my experience only momentary performance is affected but I admit I haven't dug into it much. I assumed ED would (should!) brag about it if it was the case. You say the deterioration will be permanent throughout the mission and will cause irregular operation / decreased engines performance even after reverting to nominal operation parameters?

 

after which the engine did no longer perform fully once relit.

This would clearly indicate that I was wrong. It would be a nice surprise for me personally. Any second word on that? Is it implemented similarly in BS?

[VincentLaw]

I can guarantee you that if you abuse the engines too much in BS2, eventually it will be impossible to start them at all due to engine wear. Your Ekran will just keep telling you to check the oil pressure. Even after it says "wait xxx seconds for repair", you still won't be able to fly anymore, and the only option is to quit the mission entirely. I know because I did this last week. I also had this happen a long time ago in BS1. It is not persistent between missions of course.

[Frogisis]

I can guarantee you that if you abuse the engines too much in BS2, eventually it will be impossible to start them at all due to engine wear. Your Ekran will just keep telling you to check the oil pressure. Even after it says "wait xxx seconds for repair", you still won't be able to fly anymore, and the only option is to quit the mission entirely. I know because I did this last week. I also had this happen a long time ago in BS1. It is not persistent between missions of course.

 

You mean if you take off, land, take off, land, take off, land in a single mission after treating it like a toy? That's a really nice touch.

I finally have the confidence (read: printouts of emergency procedures on the bookshelf next to my computer) to turn on random failures, so I'm just waiting till they spring something like that on me at startup. I felt kinda silly testing things during startup before I switched it on, but now it's fun, because YOU NEVER KNOW.

[ZQuickSilverZ]

"Stealth" has nothing to do with sound... ;)

 

And I am assuming that by "the stealth" you mean the F-117? As for landing and takeoff sounds, why would they need to hide from their own base? :P

 

Well maybe not for aircraft (it most definitely does for submarines). I was simply making an observation that the thing was loud that was all. Not that the sound made it ineffective.

 

No not the F-117. It was the B2. The bomber one. I have never seen an F-117 (outside of pictures of course). That would be cool though.

[Weta43]

I've been playing BS for 2 years and I've never heard of practical wear applications in DCS.

 

Turn off the dust protectors & hover in your own dust cloud for a while :-)

- or start an engine & push the throttle up to auto before the GB warms up.

[sobek]

- or start an engine & push the throttle up to auto before the GB warms up.

 

Are you certain that's modelled? I've never noticed any ramifications from oil temperature not being correct.

[MTFDarkEagle]

Are you certain that's modelled? I've never noticed any ramifications from oil temperature not being correct.

Yes. I think that's even modelled in BS1. I noticed a while ago I was in a hurry starting up, I did exactly that and I ended up with engine vibrations, engine fire.