Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I can't seem to hit anything with the GBU-12's I was doing the river raider mission and used CCRP to launch a GBU-12 at the first bunker using the instructions given in the training mission and the bomb always hits way out from the bunker. I'm using the laser with point tracking mode. Am I doing something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Is you laser firing? SPI set correctly (confirm SPI-generator)? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm setting the point on the bunker and holding LCtrl + Up arrow if thats what you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 I use the exact same procedure for the GBU-38's and it works fine for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Are you using manual or auto lase? Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Are you using manual or auto lase? I'm not sure, how do I check? Sorry I'm really new to this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I use the exact same procedure for the GBU-38's and it works fine for them 38's are not laser-guided. Ensure your laser is firing - a flashing 'L' in your HUD/MFCD prior to impact. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Well, are you turning on the laser yourself or are you configuring auto lase in the DSMS profile for the GBU-12s. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have auto lase on, still missing however I'm not seeing the flashing L mentioned by Viper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have auto lase on, still missing however I'm not seeing the flashing L mentioned by Viper Have you set the laser time of firing, ie 12 secs to impact? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Have you set the laser time of firing, ie 12 secs to impact? I set it to 2 because the plane starts at 1880 altitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfluid Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Someone plesae correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you need to set the Lase time, on the left-hand side of the the "Change settings" page of the GBU-12 profile for Auto Lase to work... i5 2500K | MSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II | Corsair H100 Cooler | 16GB RAM | Patriot 120GB SSD | Freetrack 3pt Clip | Saitek X52 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I set it to 2 because the plane starts at 1880 altitude And there is your problem. A GBU-12 requires at least 8 seconds of guidance time for it to hit the target. You are dropping FAR to low, by the time you release the weapon, you're about to fly over the target. Try from at least 10,000ft with at least an 8 second lase time (12-15 would be best in most cases). Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Huh this is weird, I set the main profile of GBU-12's to CCRP, auto lase on, las time of 2 sec and save but when I select one of my GBU-12's none of those settings where on it, even still when I changed those settings it still missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 And there is your problem. A GBU-12 requires at least 8 seconds of guidance time for it to hit the target. You are dropping FAR to low, by the time you release the weapon, you're about to fly over the target. Try from at least 10,000ft with at least an 8 second lase time (12-15 would be best in most cases). that indeed was the problem, but my problem with only the right GBU-12 accepting the profile changes is still occuring :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Huh this is weird, I set the main profile of GBU-12's to CCRP, auto lase on, las time of 2 sec and save but when I select one of my GBU-12's none of those settings where on it, even still when I changed those settings it still missed It sounds like you are selecting individual weapons by clicking OSBs on the DSMS page. You need to select a profile for GBU-12s either by activating that profile on the DSMS profile page, using the select rocker on the UFC or DMS left/right with the HUD set as the SOI. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetorx Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 It sounds like you are selecting individual weapons by clicking OSBs on the DSMS page. You need to select a profile for GBU-12s either by activating that profile on the DSMS profile page, using the select rocker on the UFC or DMS left/right with the HUD set as the SOI. I currently go to the DSMS page, don't select anything, go to profiles page use the rocker to go to GBU-12, thats how I've always been doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Post a track - that way we'll be able to tell you exactly where you are erring. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Be cautious when using long laser times. The weapon technology is a PAVEWAY II. i.e precision avionics vectoring equipment. If you lase your tgt too early you risk having the weapon drop short of the tgt because it will loose its energy by constantly moving itself in freefall to the laser energy. I dont know if this is very accurate within the sim itself but a golden rule to live by. PAVEWAY III allows for constant lasing once the weapon is away however it is so expensive its only outfitted on MK-84 or 2000lb bombs which the A-10 does not carry in this sim. Food for thought. My CAS (Close air support) JTAC Channel: RIFLE - YouTube RIFLE's Discord: https://discord.gg/cmDCrr4Z2g Publications JTAC Bible (see/know chapter #5) https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_09_3.pdf J-FIRE pocket guide (Don't do battle without it!) BK2 (fas.org) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will- Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 after editing the profile and saving it, be sure to "ACT PRO" activate profile. hope that helps! :s Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Izoul123 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Be cautious when using long laser times. The weapon technology is a PAVEWAY II. i.e precision avionics vectoring equipment. If you lase your tgt too early you risk having the weapon drop short of the tgt because it will loose its energy by constantly moving itself in freefall to the laser energy. I dont know if this is very accurate within the sim itself but a golden rule to live by. PAVEWAY III allows for constant lasing once the weapon is away however it is so expensive its only outfitted on MK-84 or 2000lb bombs which the A-10 does not carry in this sim. Food for thought. I thought this really only applies more to fast movers which the A10 is not. The slower release speed means it's drop path is pretty much straight down anyway because of the close distance to target/slower release speed, thus it doesn't' have to adjust as much as if it were dropped at say 500 knots from further away having a longer glide angle degree towards the target. I usually set Auto-lase to 20 seconds and it works flawlessly every bomb drop at any altitude above angels 10+. Heck sometimes I forget to set profiles but I usually have Latch "on" anyway on the TGP as part of my start-up sequence so I'll just manually lase it when the CCRP timer starts at -20 and it still works just fine. Really the only time I've had issues with LGB munitions not hitting has always been due to to low of altitude. This video also does a great explanation to help you figure out issues (thanks ExcessiveHeadspace). Edited January 25, 2013 by Izoul123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shein Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Don't mean to threadjack, but I have problems with the GBU-12 missing at night. Is there something I'm doing wrong? No problems hitting targets during the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harzach Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Be cautious when using long laser times. I thought this really only applies more to fast movers which the A10 is not. Yup. I used to bring up the lase time issue in these topics (I even made a handy graphic to help explain it), but it has been made fairly clear by several far more knowledgeable forum members that it is indeed not as critical (if at all) when flying the hog. It seems that misses are more often a matter of a bad markpoint - ExHead's video is required viewing! That said, a lase time of 8-12 seconds from a release altitude of no less than @8,000ft (I prefer to stay at or above 12K) seems to yield reliably negative results for those on the receiving end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'd try to walk ya thru it but I'm sure I'd miss something... http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/DCS_A-10C_Guides,_Tutorials_and_Reference_Documents#Weapon_Employment Check out a few of these... Great info from people far smarter than I. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habu_69 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Also: to engage the GBU-12 profile with auto-lasing, the weapon must be selected from the HUD profile rotation, and NOT by selecting the weapon from the DSMS. Took me a while to figure that one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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