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I have a BS2 upgrade is it possible to integrate it into DCS world without need to install BS 1?

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Silent patches? Nobody announced them yet?

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MemphisBelle

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I think BS1 has to be installed because afaik FC3 installation will also require lockon.

 

BS belongs to ED´s own project and does have anythings in common with Lockon, so the actual reason for the BS2 aupgrade was to provide a possibility to the users who already own BS1 not to pay the fullprice again, as BS has been purchased already.

 

So my guess is that BS1 installation is no more needed upon DCS World integration...but we´ll see

 

The FC3 story is because stubi still owns LOMAC, and FC3 (I presume..) will use parts or LOMAC.

 

This is correct. FC3 is been considered as Lockon Addon, therefor Lock must be installed in order to install any further FC program

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Maulkin

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I am sincerely hoping that my current licenses for Blackshark-2 and A-10C will be able to migrate into DCS-World so everything is integrated.

 

I am worried that I will have to purchase new licenses for both. :(

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I am sincerely hoping that my current licenses for Blackshark-2 and A-10C will be able to migrate into DCS-World so everything is integrated.

^^ It should be as that was the plan from the start.

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I am worried that I will have to purchase new licenses for both. :(

 

You will not have to.

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MemphisBelle

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I am sincerely hoping that my current licenses for Blackshark-2 and A-10C will be able to migrate into DCS-World so everything is integrated.

 

I am worried that I will have to purchase new licenses for both. :(

 

so this consideration is absolutely senseless...EB1 also confimred that the already purchased modules will be accepted automatically. This thread asks for the BS2 upgrade...:book:

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cichlidfan

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Why does everybody imagine issues and worry about how things are going to work. Why not wait and see, it's not like you are going to do anything different between now and the time the patches come out.;)

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Panzertard

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BS2 upgrade is a valid product - even when upgraded from BS1.

And since it is, starforce should have no problems detecting your product & license.

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dikkeduif

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This whole thread seems useless to me :)

It makes sense that if you have BS2 (upgrade or full) you will be able to integrate it into dcs world, dunno why people are freaking out and asking all these random nonsense questions.

cichlidfan

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I'm just hoping i don't need an unpatched BS1 so i can reload BS2 upgrade after all this shakes out.

 

The requirements for your upgrade key to work are very likely to remain to remain exactly as they are now.

 

I don't recall whether it worked with a patched version or not, I only installed it once and then replaced it with the full version for convenience.

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mmaruda

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One thing seems odd to me. As far as I understand, the activations get renewed (1 per month or something like that). This is true for BS2 and A10, but not for BS1 (I have a DVD version of BS1, rest are digital). This is a bit of a pain really, since in order to install BS2 upgrade, you need to have BS1 installed and activated. I'm curious how this will work with the integration thing.

 

Now Starforce is mentioned again, when I remember someone posted some time ago, that this will not be needed. Can't we just lock the product keys to our account, and be done with all that activation business?

 

Flaming Cliffs also worries me a bit. With FC2, having to install LOMAC is another obstacle. I know this is because of Evilsoft, but maybe there is some workaround? Like for example making the planes available as single packages (it's already that way with the free Su-25T).

 

All these are minor issues really and obviously can be overcome easily, but it would really be awesome if ED simplified the installation process, by say making the given aircraft available once you lock the key to you account and log in (sort of like RoF). To save disk space, the player could choose to install only the packages they want to use and all the files could be installed through the game itself. This would probably require some good hosting, but maybe integrate some torrent code?

 

Just some random thoughts. Also, any change we could get the BS2 pilot model updated? It looks crap compare to the Mi-8 driver.

PeterP

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One thing seems odd to me. As far as I understand, the activations get renewed (1 per month or something like that). This is true for BS2 and A10, but not for BS1 (I have a DVD version of BS1, rest are digital). This is a bit of a pain really, since in order to install BS2 upgrade, you need to have BS1 installed and activated. I'm curious how this will work with the integration thing.

This is the answer I got about the BS2 Upgrade activation thing:

>>>Activation issue

 

Flaming Cliffs also worries me a bit. With FC2, having to install LOMAC is another obstacle. I know this is because of Evilsoft, but maybe there is some workaround? Like for example making the planes available as single packages (it's already that way with the free Su-25T).

The Su25-T was never part of Lomac - only a part of FC - so the Su25-T in DCS:World don't needs Lomac for activation.

For the other planes: Lomac will be needed until ED makes another agreement with Ubisoft.

 

Small summary why we need Lomac for FC:

>>> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1404898#post1404898

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Pikey

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This is quite easily answered if you look at the rage that internet-only protection causes. I think one of the Silent Hunter games from Ubisoft (booo!) had this for the first few patches.

 

Our keys are already locked to our "accounts" but ED still have to protect the digital media from being re-distributed, hence the use of Star Force copy protection that binds to your hardware profile.

 

How can you simplify the process any more? You run the installer, press Next, Next, Next and launch the game. Then you enter a key that got sent in your email. If your email is open in a browser you can select it, press CTRL+C, tab to the Starforce prompt and press CTRL+V and enter. After a second you play the game. Soon after you forget until you rebuild your PC, which i don't do more than once a year although this year i did it three times and that's unusual given the last 17 years I have used them.

 

Your message probably got lost in translation and I've completely mis-understood you, so i'll apologise in advance. Sorry, I might not have understood you.

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mmaruda

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I think you understood me correct. As I mentioned it's not a big issue, all I'm saying is that this could be done... more comfortable. My biggest concern is that whenever I upgrade my PC (it's usually a full rebuild) I keep forgetting to deactivate. So with BS1, I'm bound to run out of activations and it seems I will need to log a support ticket for this. Oh well. :)

 

As for the DRM, I don't really get it - the software is available for anyone on the DCS site, only you need a valid key to be able to play and I don't think that anyone who actually bought it, would share the key. After all, we all want ED to get paid, or else no more sims. :(

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