rextar Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Guys am i missing something here but is the input for the tail wheel the rudder input? Just seems this bird wont turn on a dime at all! Thx Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effte Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 The tail wheel is linked to the rudder via gearing, with limited throw. To unlock the tail wheel and let it swivel, push the stick forward. Try at low speed, and be ready to use differential braking to control the turn. Oh, and do post the track of your first attempt! :D 1 ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawnDart Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Oh, and do post the track of your first attempt! :D :lol: Everyone should be forced to post their tracks of their first taxi, takeoff and landing in this pony!:megalol: [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rextar Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Great advice thankyou x lol Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpilot Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) my understanding was that the only influence you have over the tail wheel was to control its freedom of movement, ie +6 to -6 degrees with the stick held back or fully free with the stick held forward. I think the turning force actually comes from the air flow hitting the rudder, or by using differential braking. try stopping, hold one brake on and the stick forward and rudder hard toward the braked side then give a big ole' blip of throttle to send some wind against the rudder, it will turn on a dime, probably about 3 times. If i'm well wrong on this apologies, i've only had the game a few hrs and had a quick read of manual, This is just how i understood it and is how many tail draggers i've tried in FSX work. edit: actually just re-read the manual and it sounds like i'm wrong, gonna have to test it. Edited July 1, 2012 by pixelpilot innacurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Tailwheel is already discussed in this thread: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=88007 I even made some videos to show the problem. Look them up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted July 2, 2012 ED Team Share Posted July 2, 2012 Tailwheel swivelling physics is totally reworked, so the matter of discussions totally changed! :) Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 But when will we experience it? Will we need to relearn the takeoff and landings?:pilotfly: Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yes, you need to learn everything all over again :D :ooops (HJ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jona33 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 :lol: Everyone should be forced to post their tracks of their first taxi, takeoff and landing in this pony!:megalol: Still haven't managed the landing part. :D Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Tailwheel swivelling physics is totally reworked, so the matter of discussions totally changed! :) Cool, when can we start...:music_whistling: The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Still haven't managed the landing part. :D You just need to hold the stick harder back when flaring than you think Jona, unlike the jet aircrafts. (HJ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpilot Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 surely the tailwheel glitch is only with it unlocked and wont effect anything but tight taxi control. my problems generally dont start untill the tail wheel leaves the ground. I can do three point take offs pretty easy but if i try to let the tail come up before i lift off i struggle. really not getting too consistant at landings yet at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobo Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Tailwheel swivelling physics is totally reworked, so the matter of discussions totally changed! :) :thumbup: Lobo's DCS A-10C Normal Checklist & Quick Reference Handbook current version 8D available here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/172905/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramstein Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 well, these tail wheel changes, should be very interesting (Laugh In)........ :joystick: ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effte Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Tailwheel swivelling physics is totally reworked, so the matter of discussions totally changed! :) Looking forward to that one. Thanks for listening! Care to elaborate on what was changed? Cheers, /Fred ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted July 3, 2012 ED Team Share Posted July 3, 2012 Cool, when can we start...:music_whistling: While the next beta is released. :) Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted July 3, 2012 ED Team Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) surely the tailwheel glitch is only with it unlocked and wont effect anything but tight taxi control. my problems generally dont start untill the tail wheel leaves the ground. I can do three point take offs pretty easy but if i try to let the tail come up before i lift off i struggle. really not getting too consistant at landings yet at all. This is not a tailwheel unlocked. This is P-factor and gyroscopic moment. Try to lift the tail when your speed is not less than 70-80 mph for 9300 lb plane. Then carefully push the stick a little bit beyond the central position (3-4 degrees to nose down I think). Be ready to apply right rudder as you are rotating but release it after the plane is at two points attitude. That's all... If you still encounter problems feel free to use TO assistant. It's not a cheat - it's your back sensitive to acceleration. It helps to counteract unwanted fast yawing movements. As you are training, gradually reduce TO assistant help using slider until you can TO without assistance. Edited July 3, 2012 by Yo-Yo Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daze Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I still suck at taxiing in the P-51, I always end up spinning in circles. I just taxi across grass and everything now, much easier :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] First to Fight, First to Strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 While the next beta is released. :) I see fast trick questions don't work on forums..... :doh: The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I still suck at taxiing in the P-51, I always end up spinning in circles. I just taxi across grass and everything now, much easier :D Wait for the next patch. ;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted July 4, 2012 ED Team Share Posted July 4, 2012 I still suck at taxiing in the P-51, I always end up spinning in circles. I just taxi across grass and everything now, much easier :D Do you hold the stick aft? If the tailwheel is steerable and locked there are no problems to taxi. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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