JCamel Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Image attached, why is launch not authorised? Edited July 16, 2012 by JCamel If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 You'll need to attach an image. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
159th_Falcon Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Only thing i can think of is pressing the wrong button. Mind you that there are two different buttons to fire the canon and to release ordnance like bombs/missiles [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
159th_Viper Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 You are too close - extend to 10km, acquire and engage. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
JCamel Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 Here's the track. Some success and some huge misses. Why?Vikhr.trk If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
159th_Viper Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Here's the track. Some success and some huge misses. Why? Search the forum - chances are you'll find the answer you seek. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89053 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
pepin1234 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 off course!! This bug is real and is not fixed in the last version. I launch mi Vikhr with 9,5 km and I lose my launch 4 sec before impact [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
JCamel Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 Search the forum - chances are you'll find the answer you seek. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89053 That's a long thread. If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
JCamel Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 This bug needs fixing. These missiles are bloody useless. If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 This bug needs fixing. These missiles are bloody useless. Yep. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
JCamel Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 The Kh-29L however takes out civilian vehicles. Noice! If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
159th_Falcon Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Just tested in DCS World V1.2 (is latest version) Did 3 run in's firing 2 vikr's on each run. 6 out of 6 hits. (and 6 targets destroyed) I think its mostly user error, not a bug in the game. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
JCamel Posted July 17, 2012 Author Posted July 17, 2012 I noticed that if I fire from ~1000m altitude, the effective range is <7km for a 100% kill ratio. If I fire from ~3000m, the effective range is 9-10km. Don't know if that's how it's meant to be or not, but if you fire from 8+km at 1000m altitude pretty much every missile will fall short and miss. If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
159th_Falcon Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I noticed that if I fire from ~1000m altitude, the effective range is <7km for a 100% kill ratio. If I fire from ~3000m, the effective range is 9-10km. Don't know if that's how it's meant to be or not, but if you fire from 8+km at 1000m altitude pretty much every missile will fall short and miss. This is correct behavior, note that the Vikhr only has a maximum engagement range of 7km orso. But if you fire the missile at higher altitude's it can get further. If you fire it from 5000m altitude, you may be able to extend its range to 11km. Same behavior can be seen whit all missile's by the way, nice example's being the KH25MPU and the KH58U. Around 2000m altitude they have a range of about 25 and 50 km. Around 12000m altitude they have a range of about 50 and 100 km. (note tested this in FC2, no idea if it holds up against real world data) The KH25ML is also a nice missile to fire from medium altitudes to extend its range btw. Thought the question then is can you already spot the target whit the skhval at that range. ~S~ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Dejjvid Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 If you are sliding left/right to fast, the Vikhr will miss the laser beam. I've fired over 200 Vikhrs in 1.2.0, I have not noticed anything strange. The misses have been pilot errors. Eg, not selecting GMT, side slipping or breaking off too early. i7 8700K | GTX 1080 Ti | 32GB RAM | 500GB M.2 SSD | TIR5 w/ Trackclip Pro | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder [sigpic]http://www.132virtualwing.org[/sigpic]
159th_Viper Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Yeah, it's perfectly possible to engage with Vikhrs at present. The fix that is available with the next patch is just a lot more forgiving as you should be able to turn/manoeuvre whilst staying within the Shkval Gimbal limits and still hit with the Vikhr . Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
159th_Falcon Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Yeah, it's perfectly possible to engage with Vikhrs at present. The fix that is available with the next patch is just a lot more forgiving as you should be able to turn/manoeuvre whilst staying within the Shkval Gimbal limits and still hit with the Vikhr . Can do that now also............ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
JCamel Posted July 17, 2012 Author Posted July 17, 2012 I think a lot of people just expect a missile to hit if it's locked and ready to launch and the target remains illuminated but it is range/altitude specific. Another Question: Do the Shkval and Mercury only have 2 zoom levels, or have I missed something? If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
159th_Falcon Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I think a lot of people just expect a missile to hit if it's locked and ready to launch and the target remains illuminated but it is range/altitude specific. Another Question: Do the Shkval and Mercury only have 2 zoom levels, or have I missed something? Only 2 yes. BTW, a lot of your question's are in the SU25T manual. In case you don't know where to find it; go to your DCS World install directory and then; DCS World/Mods/aircrafts/Su-25T/Doc/ folder and there is the SU25T flight manual. (69 pages) Anymore questions fire away. ~S~ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
JCamel Posted July 17, 2012 Author Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) I've got it but I'm trying to save time. ;) I know what the Mercury and ELINT are for but what is the MPS-410 for? Edited July 17, 2012 by JCamel If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
RagnarDa Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 MPS-410 is ECM-pods (Electronic Counter Measure = Radar-jammer). Not sure why Toads usually carry two of them though... When they are turned on, enemy radar (SAMs and enemy air) will have a more difficult time targeting you, but you will also broadcast your location like a lighthouse in the dark (radar jammers are a bit like shining a flashlight in the "eyes" of the enemy radar, somewhat blinding them). DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is.
159th_Falcon Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 MPS-410 is ECM-pods (Electronic Counter Measure = Radar-jammer). Not sure why Toads usually carry two of them though... When they are turned on, enemy radar (SAMs and enemy air) will have a more difficult time targeting you, but you will also broadcast your location like a lighthouse in the dark (radar jammers are a bit like shining a flashlight in the "eyes" of the enemy radar, somewhat blinding them). Usually the toad only carries them when performing SEAD/DEAD???? In combination whit the Fantasmagoria pod and ARM's If flying a CAS role the station can be left empty or equipped whit the R-60M short range A-A heat seeking missile. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Boberro Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 MPS-410 is ECM-pods (Electronic Counter Measure = Radar-jammer). Not sure why Toads usually carry two of them though. Perhaps same reason why two Sorbitsajas are needed to be working :) I rather take them because I never know what I could encounter on. If I have only Vikhrs with ECM on I can supress Tunguska\TOR\OSA launch at some great distance allowing me to fire Vikhr and achieve a kill. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
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