Anywhere else i can preorder?

[Soulres]

my master card wont work with DCS payment site (pagepay)cause it is from a black listed country,is there anywhere else i can preoder P51D Mustang?

Edited August 16, 2012 by Soulres

[cichlidfan]

my master card wont work with DCS payment site cause it is from a black listed country,is there anywhere else i can preoder P51D Mustang?

 

Unfortunately, ED is the only source.

[Soulres]

Unfortunately, ED is the only source.

well that sucks,why would ED use a website that is from a black listed country? wouldnt that mean anyone and everyones info isnt secure?also,is there just a place i could buy the Activation Key like from Steam?

Edited August 16, 2012 by Soulres

[PeterP]

you have to ask this your bank .

- hey- its 2012! why should a member of the CIS be on a "blacklist" !?

Edited August 16, 2012 by PeterP

[Soulres]

you have to ask this your bank .

- hey- its 2012! why should be a member of the CIS on a "blacklist" !?

the full thing they said was,it was from a list of black listed countries from master card,iran,iraq,Korea most, of Asia,ect. so places that i wouldnt want me money even visiting.

[EtherealN]

Use paypal.

 

I don't understand what exactly you are saying though. SagePay is part of Sage group, a corporation that is headquartered in the United Kingdom. My Master Card works perfectly fine there.

 

The only other country involved here is Russia, and well... Eagle Dynamics is a russian company. ;)

 

and EDIT:

well that sucks,why would ED use a website that is from a black listed country? wouldnt that mean anyone and everyones info isnt secure?

 

Aside from the curious situation of your bank apparently having blacklisted the United Kingdom, no, it does not mean information isn't secure. The reason they might have for blacklisting is that criminal organizations run "skimming" operations; they tamper with an ATM to get a copy of your card, as well as a hidden camera that detects your PIN number. Then their accomplices use this information to make a duplicate card which is then used somewhere else, beyond the reach of the law.

 

The payment is, in the case of transactions through services like Sage Pay, handled completely by the payment provider which, as mentioned, is a company in the United Kingdom. Eagle Dynamics does not handle the transaction.

Edited August 16, 2012 by EtherealN

[Soulres]

Use paypal.

 

I don't understand what exactly you are saying though. SagePay is part of Sage group, a corporation that is headquartered in the United Kingdom. My Master Card works perfectly fine there.

 

The only other country involved here is Russia, and well... Eagle Dynamics is a russian company. ;)

 

i told em its a russian website,but they said paysage isnt in russia or the united kingdom,its in one of the black listed countries (places they dont want your card going) and the UK isnt one of em,cause i attempted to buy it,but it was declined,and supposedly thats what they saw on their end. they were pretty patient too,wasnt a half-assed answer i normally get from banks *cough* Chase.their mayby a way i can avoid paysage?

*EDIT*oh and to answer your question,i just got 8 easy payments of 10.99$ back from paypal from which they stole from my bank account as a 'Fee',paypal is out of the question because i destryed my account and if i make a new one, their gona need my SS card,bank info,basiclly everything that shows who i am,as true as that may be,i read into "what if i dont recive my product?" on their website,in a paragraph they explain how your 'shit out'a luck' if you dont get it,because that isnt their problem anymore.kinda makes me uneasy with even attempting it period.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Soulres

[EtherealN]

Outside of sagepay and paypal, no, you're out of luck. Perhaps obtain a one-time prepaid card? I believe you can pick those up at like Walmart or something like that. (Never used one myself since they don't exist here - I believe they're usually meant for people who have too bad credit rating to get a "real" card.)

 

As for where SagePay is:

 

3rd Floor,

The Angel Building

St John Street

London

 

Your bank is simply wrong.

[Soulres]

Outside of sagepay and paypal, no, you're out of luck. Perhaps obtain a one-time prepaid card? I believe you can pick those up at like Walmart or something like that. (Never used one myself since they don't exist here - I believe they're usually meant for people who have too bad credit rating to get a "real" card.)

 

As for where SagePay is:

 

3rd Floor,

The Angel Building

St John Street

London

 

Your bank is simply wrong.

and seeing as how their the last ones to say where my money goes,i guess ED is outa luck.if a debit master card isnt working, a prepaid one wont work either,even more so,if i did try and it didnt work, ide have to get rid of a pre-pay debit card.

[EtherealN]

Master Cards do work. That's what I've used. It's not Mastercard that blacklists anything here, it's the bank that clears the transaction (or not, as appears to be the case here). Another bank may very well have other policies - indeed does seem so, since others (including me) have no problem with MC.

 

The blacklist in question may be based on advice from MC, but it's still the bank that clears or declines transactions.

 

Another option would be to see if you can give funds to a friend and try their card (if they have another bank).

[Soulres]

Master Cards do work. That's what I've used. It's not Mastercard that blacklists anything here, it's the bank that clears the transaction (or not, as appears to be the case here). Another bank may very well have other policies - indeed does seem so, since others (including me) have no problem with MC.

 

The blacklist in question may be based on advice from MC, but it's still the bank that clears or declines transactions.

 

Another option would be to see if you can give funds to a friend and try their card (if they have another bank).

 

tried it with my friends visa debit card,same thing "card was declined" were gona call them tomorrow at his bank to see whats up.

*edit* just thought i might add be bought BlackShark with the same card about a year ago.

Edited August 17, 2012 by Soulres

[159th_Viper]

Use Paypal.

[WildBillKelsoe]

tried it with my friends visa debit card,same thing "card was declined" were gona call them tomorrow at his bank to see whats up.

*edit* just thought i might add be bought BlackShark with the same card about a year ago.

 

probably funds issue. I used my pop's mastercard cc for BS1, A-10C, then used my debit visa for BS2 and P-51D. I live in Egypt. No problems.

Edited August 17, 2012 by WildBillKelsoe

[Soulres]

probably funds issue. I used my pop's mastercard cc for BS1, A-10C, then used my debit visa for BS2 and P-51D. I live in Egypt. No problems.

 

i live in IL,USA. Visa is saying the exact same thing, it is in their list of 'Black' Countries.they see and look up what ever IP goes to my card when i try to purchase it.

 

Use Paypal.

 

me and my bank just got back from fighting Paypal after i got a plane ticket and they locked my account cuase they wanted a picture of my birth certificate and i had about 100$ left in it that i could no longer touch.paypal my bank account is one thing,but my SS# and a picture of my birth certificate,im not gona loose my money like that.

Edited August 17, 2012 by Soulres

[WildBillKelsoe]

i live in IL,USA. Visa is saying the exact same thing, it is in their list of 'Black' Countries.they see and look up what ever IP goes to my card when i try to purchase it.

 

 

 

me and my bank just got back from fighting Paypal after i got a plane ticket and they locked my account cuase they wanted a picture of my birth certificate and i had about 100$ left in it that i could no longer touch.paypal my bank account is one thing,but my SS# and a picture of my birth certificate,im not gona loose my money like that.

 

whatever you do, don't use a proxy server to bypass the block. It is very dangerous. Maybe you can arrange with ED or the responsible firm a google checkout purchase. I tried it before with a paypal-only company and they did an exception. Alternately, you could go for Amazon.com and get the DVD version and it is guaranteed to work because I've ordered loads from amazon with egypt issued cards and all got accepted. Since you live in Illinois, US, I suggest you go with Amazon.com

 

EDIT: Ah, the mustang. Wait it out. I'm surprised your bank blacklisted the entire US/UK?!?!?!

Edited August 17, 2012 by WildBillKelsoe

[Soulres]

EDIT: Ah, the mustang. Wait it out. I'm surprised your bank blacklisted the entire US/UK?!?!?!

 

not the US or the UK, PAYSAGE must have something in a thirdworld country,VISA just said that the ip that linked to my card when i tried to complete the transaction (6xbtw) and they (and my bank) both said, the ip is comming from a black listed country,Not from the UK not from the US,places from middle east,Korea,parts of Asia.paysage might be in the UK but they must be routing their connection thru someplace that it shouldnt. i just bought music box parts From the UK today with no issue. i sent ED a ticket,but itll be '48' hours in about 2 minutes and i havent gotten a response.

[cichlidfan]

I don't know what bank you are using but I have used my Bank of America Visa CC to purchase every product ED has (more than once) with not one single difficulty.

[Wolf Rider]

Visa pre-paid works (not that I'm a bad history, but because I just don't want a CC)

 

The problem you're having maybe because it seems to be a debit mastercard card you're trying to use... banks would be a bit funny about transactions showing up from os. Russia isn't on any US blacklists for financial transactions (afaia), else we'd have all heard about it before.

 

eg I had a short notice call for a job os and called my bank to ask which AMT's would be available to use with my debit only card.

They said, "you're lucky you called, because if transactions had have shown up from where you are going, we would have shut down your card" so from that, expected duration os established so the bank didn't get twitchy

Edited August 17, 2012 by Wolf Rider

[Soulres]

Visa pre-paid works (not that I'm a bad history, but because I just don't want a CC)

 

The problem you're having maybe because it seems to be a debit mastercard card you're trying to use... banks would be a bit funny about transactions showing up from os. Russia isn't on any US blacklists for financial transactions (afaia), else we'd have all heard about it before.

seeing as how my master card, and a visa card, and now even a chase credit card has failed all in teh same manner,i dont think its my card,and also seeing as how ive yet to get a reply on the matter from ED (yes i issued a ticket) something intresting is going on :megalol:

I don't know what bank you are using but I have used my Bank of America Visa CC to purchase every product ED has (more than once) with not one single difficulty.

no idea where my friends visa is from, i just tried a another's Chase debit card and same thing.

[cichlidfan]

EDs trouble ticket system is really backed up so not having an answer from them is not unusual at this time (ordinarily it might be).

[Wolf Rider]

perhaps contacting your bank and asking them what is going on, seems the best way forward, considering no-one else using a credit card (US, Aust, UK Europe, etc) seems to have the same problem you are. ?

[Soulres]

perhaps contacting your bank and asking them what is going on, seems the best way forward, considering no-one else using a credit card (US, Aust, UK Europe, etc) seems to have the same problem you are. ?

thats where i got the whole "black listed country" from,i bought a music box from the UK the other day

[BigfootMSR]

Soulres, what bank issued you the MC out of curiousity? I have used MC, visa, and paypal here with no problems. You could also find out what type of prepaid, cards ED accepts and then get one of those. It wont be issued by your bank which is declining the transaction because it would be through a different bank and the funds pre-transferd from your current (non working) account. IF in the unlikely event that it does not work, you can easily get rid of the pre paid card. Just use it for your purchases, until its all used up :P

[159th_Viper]

Tell you what, your story is the reason many still utilize mattresses to store their money :P

 

Jest aside, at this stage you'll be better off putting your cash in an envelope and sending it to someone/a friend who will attend to the purchase on your behalf.

[AceKng1]

I just used a Visa credit card for the purchase and everything went fine so purchases are still working. I'm in AL, USA.