ZHeN Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Su-34 armed with a R-27P1 / R-27EP1 AAM with passive guidance R-27ER and Kh-31 dummies [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Chizh Posted September 30, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted September 30, 2020 You could also do an active radar head R27, R 27EM shouldn't have been taken out of the game, no one wanted to. The game would be much more playable. And if make photon torpedoes and laser cannons from a galactic cruiser, then everything will be much more interesting. Sorry, but we will not simulate a weapon that does not exist. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pöri Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) And if make photon torpedoes and laser cannons from a galactic cruiser, then everything will be much more interesting. Sorry, but we will not simulate a weapon that does not exist. Could make FC3 style MiG 31. Only front seat playable, rear seat full automatic radar operator pilot. There would be an F14 style menu that Heatblure uses for the F 14. Only the Zaszlon radar should be done without secrets much like the FC3 Su 27 radar and use the R 33, R 40, R 60 missiles in the game. Could produce Su 30 FC3 style and RVV SD and same weapons like in game SU 30 use (RVV SD = buff R77 to 110km without violating any secrets) only the front seat can be played, the rear seat is fully automatic radar and weapon handling operator. It would make a GUI menu like the one on the F 14. It would make the N011M bars radar like FC3 Su 27 radar and with these two options would silence those who are tired of such a question every day for 10 years! Ask for $ 60 this pack! Take it seriously, opinion? Sorry bad english! Edited September 30, 2020 by Pöri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuerte Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 War Thunder живет этажом выше. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pöri Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 R-27ER and Kh-31 dummies Look at the missile nose!EP pointed and square, ER convex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHeN Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 dummies, mate, DUMMIES [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pöri Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 dummies, mate, DUMMIES Plenty of youtubers who have made a video of their flights have already stopped playing, me and those who are here are fighting to continue because we love this simulator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max1mus Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) There is a set of 2 dozen buttons on the right side of Su-27S to allow you to label/assign targets to your wingman. Hardly going to have no function. But this is offtopic. On AIM-120D, the 120C in DCS already has perfect loft algorithms. If it was not for the battery life turning the missile off at mach 2.5, it would easily have the 120Ds 180km of range. Theoretically even far beyond that. The current 120 practically does never run out of energy above 40-45.000 feet. In general, it seems that if a missile in DCS has special trajectories, it gets the absolutely best possible ones. As such a 120B will have the guidance/lofting algorithms of AIM-120D, and the AIM-54A from 1970 is getting the best possible guidance with no difference to more modern missiles like AIM-54C. Edited September 30, 2020 by Max1mus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPixxel Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 On AIM-120D, the 120C in DCS already has perfect loft algorithms. If it was not for the battery life turning the missile off at mach 2.5, it would easily have the 120Ds 180km of range. Theoretically even far beyond that. The current 120 practically does never run out of energy above 40-45.000 feet. In general, it seems that if a missile in DCS has special trajectories, it gets the absolutely best possible ones. As such a 120B will have the guidance/lofting algorithms of AIM-120D, and the AIM-54A from 1970 is getting the best possible guidance with no difference to more modern missiles like AIM-54C. I agree. Aim-120D should have increased range compared to 120C from its better guidance and from the more accurate INS thanks to GPS data, not only from the increased battery life. But if in DCS a 120D was added, it would not be any different from the current 120C except for battery life, because the guidance is already perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 On AIM-120D, the 120C in DCS already has perfect loft algorithms. That is certainly not true. It has much better loft algorithms in game than it did before, as well as more lift. Both contribute to its ability to gain range with loft. But it isn't perfect and it likely never will be as you'd have to calculate aspect/altitude/speed tables. In addition it doesn't even present loft-glide logic or target horizon/sub-horizon sight logic. If it was not for the battery life turning the missile off at mach 2.5, it would easily have the 120Ds 180km of range. Theoretically even far beyond that. The current 120 practically does never run out of energy above 40-45.000 feet. That's a DCS thing, not a 120 thing. As such a 120B will have the guidance/lofting algorithms of AIM-120D, and the AIM-54A from 1970 is getting the best possible guidance with no difference to more modern missiles like AIM-54C. Yes, they all get the same algorithm ... not 'the best possible one'. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 But if in DCS a 120D was added, it would not be any different from the current 120C except for battery life, because the guidance is already perfect. The guidance is far from perfect, but that aside - the main differentiating characteristic would be the 2-way data-link. The missile would tell you if it missed or hit, or if it knows it's going to miss, and it would also report back where it is, what mode it's in, possibly what it's tracking. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pöri Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakshot Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So how come Aim54s are so overmodelled? 70s gen missiles with CCM resistance of a 120C... Plus Magic INS. Отправлено с моего STV100-2 через Tapatalk Tim "Breakshot" Mytrofanov | C.O. of 51 ПВО / 100 КИАП Regiments | twitch.tv/51breakshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Может стоит модераторам раздела мягко напомнить пишущим на последних страницах о языковой направленности данного раздела? Порядок должен быть хоть минимальный? Ну ни в какие ворота уже, её богу. Win11, Asus Z690, i5-13600KF, 32Gb, GTX 3080TI, ViewSonic VX3211-4K, FFBeast+FFB Pedal, VKB devices, HP Reverb G2 v2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Chizh Posted October 1, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted October 1, 2020 So how come Aim54s are so overmodelled? It is question to Razbam team. Это вопрос к команде РАЗБАМ. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 А есть ли супермодераторы над модераторами, которые, мягко говоря, закрывают глаза на подобные несоответствия? Или друзьям всё, остальным закон? Не стоит уподобляться системе в одной известной стране. Win11, Asus Z690, i5-13600KF, 32Gb, GTX 3080TI, ViewSonic VX3211-4K, FFBeast+FFB Pedal, VKB devices, HP Reverb G2 v2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 It is question to Razbam team. Это вопрос к команде РАЗБАМ. Причем тут разбам к хитблюрам? Сейчас феникс это амраам с читами или скорее костылями. Его реальная работа не подпадает ни под одну локонвскую категорию, плюс в одном режиме он работает как Р-24, в другом как 120А и все это на разных участках траектории. Мне кажется что настоящие мозги фениксу способны сделать только ЕД потому что копать надо слишком глубоко в игровую логику. ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So how come Aim54s are so overmodelled? 70s gen missiles with CCM resistance of a 120C... Plus Magic INS. Отправлено с моего STV100-2 через Tapatalk HB was completely unaware that ED was changing the AMRAAM CCM last patch, they said they will correct it next patch. And the magic INS is EDs issue not HBs. Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Chizh Posted October 1, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted October 1, 2020 А есть ли супермодераторы над модераторами, которые, мягко говоря, закрывают глаза на подобные несоответствия? Или друзьям всё, остальным закон? Не стоит уподобляться системе в одной известной стране. Попробуйте перевести гугл-транслейтором. Станет все понятно. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Chizh Posted October 1, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted October 1, 2020 Причем тут разбам к хитблюрам? Да, конечно к Heatblure. Я опечатался. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lester Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Может стоит модераторам раздела мягко напомнить пишущим на последних страницах о языковой направленности данного раздела? Порядок должен быть хоть минимальный? Ну ни в какие ворота уже, её богу. Пользователи, которые пишут в этой теме по-английски, предоставляют полезную техническую информацию и помогают с фиксом багов в реализации ракет в DCS, получая быструю обратную связь от разработчиков (которую сложнее получить в англоязычной части форума). Попытки запостить такую информацию переведенную на русский с помощью Google Translate менее понятны и выглядят намного хуже, чем посты на английском. При этом тот же Google Translate вполне помогает продуктивно обмениваться мнениями в этой теме носителям разных языков, тому здесь много примеров. Для сообщества DCS в этом только плюс ИМХО. Users who write posts in this thread in english provide useful technical information and help with fixing bugs in DCS missile implementation, it also allows them to have quick feedback from devs (which is harder to get in english part of the forum I believe). Any attempts to post such info translated to russian with Google Translate are more obscure and look much worse than original posts in english. At the same time Google Translate allows users speaking different languages to exchange opinions on this important topic, the are plenty examples of that here in this thread. IMHO DCS community will only benefit from that. Edited October 1, 2020 by lester Все написанное выше является моим оценочным суждением Everything written above reflects my personal opinion Занимаюсь "активной пропагандой Американцев на данном форуме" © Flanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jager_jager Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Но мы использовать её не сможем никогда. Не заслужили, или провинились) PC Specs: i7 10700k, 32gb DDR 4 3200mhz, RTX 2060 super, ssd m.2 VKB Gladiator NXT, Warthog Throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuerte Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Не положено. Либо не заслужили допуска. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandMartin Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Но мы использовать её не сможем никогда. Не заслужили, или провинились) А у нас уже есть более старые aim-120d и f-22 ? Мой youtube канал Группа в VK IBM x3200 Tower, i7 9700k, Asus Z390-P, HyperX Fury DDR4 2x16Gb 3466 Mhz, HyperX Savage 480Gb SSD, Asus RTX3070 Dual OC 8G, 32" Asus PG329Q, Creative Sound Blaster AE-5, HyperX Cloud Alpha + Pulsefire FPS Pro + Alloy FPS brown, Track IR 4 PRO + Clip Pro, Warhog HOTAS + CH Pro Pedal + есть руль Logitech G25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Chizh Posted October 4, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted October 4, 2020 [imgеhttps://sun9-68.userapi.com/w8NpuzeMW0PKvK8pbwVF3kbaXmAfF3mcUb8osQ/2NKNvRIZuCU.jpg[/img] Но мы использовать её не сможем никогда. Не заслужили, или провинились) При чем здесь DCS? 1. В DCS нет Су-35. 2. В реальности Су-35 пока не видно с Р-37. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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