Razorback Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Manually downloadable patches are a good idea, but it's not currently implemented. A announced by wags this 05 of October, the auto Update fix number of bugs of problem with the original version of DCS World 1.2.1 (5970). Of course I want to have also this update. What I have to do in order to run this auto update ? If I connect my computer to the net, the auto update will be automatic ?
joey45 Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Only when you A] start DCS B] start the autoupdater. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
EtherealN Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 If I connect my computer to the net, the auto update will be automatic ? It is called an autoupdater. :) When you start DCS World, it checks if there's an update and, if there is, it asks if you want it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
159th_Falcon Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Thanx for the help c0ff, unfortunately there is no such file in the savedgames/dcs/logs directory. (only LOG files and OLD files) Also double checked for the processes in taskmanager and there not there. As it an idea to try the autoupdater in safe mode whit network ? Oops, the file was in savedgames/dcs directory not savedgames/dcs/logs Anyways, autoupdater is running as i type this, thanx for the help:thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
sotosev Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) Just wondering are you guys out there generally noticing an increase in FPS with the the latest patch ?. Just that i'm now finding that my FPS is really struggling since i've updated to the latest version :( Tested with the BS2 "Battle" mission and i'm now only getting approx 20 FPS when i have my Shkval turned on, previously to this latest update i could run at a steady 38 FPS which is what i cap my FPS at. Has anybody else who's machine was running well previous to the latest patch noticed a decrease in performance ??.. Thanks... Same for me, latest pach decrease my FPS. Strange but it's true! Now that I think of it. I haven't reset windows after the update. I just tested once after update. Anyway I am at work now. I ll check it again tomorow. Edited October 6, 2012 by sotosev System specs below Case - Antec Three Hundred PSU - Corsair AX750watt Board - MSI Z170A GAMING PRO CPU - Intel i5 6600K 3900MHz Cooler - CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Memory - Kingston HYPERX 16G DDR4 2400Mhz CL15 Graphics - MSI GEFORCE GTX 980 GAMING 4G SSD - Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2 NVMe Monitor - Philips 277E 27" 1920x1080 60Hz OS - Windows 10 Home 64bit Flight Controllers - Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG, Saitek COMBAT RUDDER PEDALS, TrackIR 4, Track Clip Pro [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Biggus Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I'd love to see a manual update option. Don't have a home connection at the moment. Will have to stick to 1.2.0.
EtherealN Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I'd love to see a manual update option. Don't have a home connection at the moment. Will have to stick to 1.2.0. Why? Version 1.2.0 without an internet connection is in exactly the same position as version 1.2.1 without an internet connection. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Dudikoff Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Why? Version 1.2.0 without an internet connection is in exactly the same position as version 1.2.1 without an internet connection. Not really if you have the game installed on your desktop - you could download patches at your friend's or at some internet cafe and then install them at home. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
MemphisBelle Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 important question: is it possible that a server will crash as soon as someone connects who has not the current patch version installed? It happened to my server the last few hours two times From the DCS.log and the net-server.log I can not see any reasons for a crash BlackSharkDen | BSD Discord | DCS Tutorial Collection
Cowboy10uk Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Not really if you have the game installed on your desktop - you could download patches at your friend's or at some internet cafe and then install them at home. +1 I would love to see the manual option again. My brothers Internet is very very slow, less than 1mb on a good day, and it can take him upto a week to download patches. The system we use is, I download the patches, stick them on a USB stick and post them to him. Yes it's a bit of a faff, but it gets him back flying with us. Strangly enough there is enough bandwidth just to allow him to mp. Anyway with the auto updater, I'm assuming there will be noway to use this procedure, if there Is could you tell me where to find the downloaded file. I appreciate the updates will be smaller, but if they are roughly the same size of rise of flight auto updates, they still take a day or two to update. I know more and more of us are slowly getting faster Internet, but please remember, there are still some out there with dial up speeds, by no fault of there own. Bros already on the fastest provider, but the Internet companies tend to forget about upgrading those in the country. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
EtherealN Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 ijozic, you're not getting my point: If you install version 1.2.0, you'll have version 1.2.0. If you install version 1.2.1, you'll have version 1.2.1. Both of these are achievable without and internet connection (barring the initial activation, of course, but this can be done without connecting that machine.) There is no reason why version 1.2.1 would not work on a machine that is not connected to the internet. Yes, you won't get the auto-updates. But you'll have a more up-to-date version than you'd have if you used v1.2.0. Cowboy, the autoupdater leaves a changelog each time it runs. Just take a look there, and send those files (making sure to note location). Anyhow, I don't see how this would be necessary. We're not talking about mega-patches here. Checking my production install, I'm seeing olatest download of 71 685 072 bytes. At 1 mbit/s this would take ~573 seconds or 9 minutes. The entire point of the autoupdater is to allow small updates when necessary and desirable instead of having to postpone everything to large prepackaged patches in the gigabyte range. It is people like your brother in this case that are specifically most at benefit of a system like this. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
EtherealN Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 important question: is it possible that a server will crash as soon as someone connects who has not the current patch version installed? It happened to my server the last few hours two times From the DCS.log and the net-server.log I can not see any reasons for a crash Sounds strange, checked *.crash files? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Raydowe Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 with lastest patches my FPS grow up.. Im back in the cockpit :-) Ty ED.. keep good work.
Biggus Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 ijozic, you're not getting my point: If you install version 1.2.0, you'll have version 1.2.0. If you install version 1.2.1, you'll have version 1.2.1. Both of these are achievable without and internet connection (barring the initial activation, of course, but this can be done without connecting that machine.) There is no reason why version 1.2.1 would not work on a machine that is not connected to the internet. Yes, you won't get the auto-updates. But you'll have a more up-to-date version than you'd have if you used v1.2.0. Cowboy, the autoupdater leaves a changelog each time it runs. Just take a look there, and send those files (making sure to note location). Anyhow, I don't see how this would be necessary. We're not talking about mega-patches here. Checking my production install, I'm seeing olatest download of 71 685 072 bytes. At 1 mbit/s this would take ~573 seconds or 9 minutes. The entire point of the autoupdater is to allow small updates when necessary and desirable instead of having to postpone everything to large prepackaged patches in the gigabyte range. It is people like your brother in this case that are specifically most at benefit of a system like this. Maybe I wasn't very clear. The issue is that there's no way of getting hold of the cumulative updates. I can get 1.2.1, but the small updates I'll miss out on. While there are fixes being applied to 1.2.1, I'll stick to the previous version. No big deal, just a bit disappointed.
EtherealN Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Well, my objection was that you were clear and stated that you'd stay with 1.2.0. There's no reason to do that - at least not a reason that has anything to do with the Autoupdater. And of course, I don't see how this has removed anything from you. The only thing you're missing out on with 1.2.1 is something no-one of us had before. So what is there to be disappointed about? That a new, additional feature, that by it's very nature requires an internet connection, does not work without an internet connection? I really don't follow that and suspect that you have misunderstood what this is and how it impacts you. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Cowboy10uk Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 ijozic, you're not getting my point: If you install version 1.2.0, you'll have version 1.2.0. If you install version 1.2.1, you'll have version 1.2.1. Both of these are achievable without and internet connection (barring the initial activation, of course, but this can be done without connecting that machine.) There is no reason why version 1.2.1 would not work on a machine that is not connected to the internet. Yes, you won't get the auto-updates. But you'll have a more up-to-date version than you'd have if you used v1.2.0. Cowboy, the autoupdater leaves a changelog each time it runs. Just take a look there, and send those files (making sure to note location). Anyhow, I don't see how this would be necessary. We're not talking about mega-patches here. Checking my production install, I'm seeing olatest download of 71 685 072 bytes. At 1 mbit/s this would take ~573 seconds or 9 minutes. The entire point of the autoupdater is to allow small updates when necessary and desirable instead of having to postpone everything to large prepackaged patches in the gigabyte range. It is people like your brother in this case that are specifically most at benefit of a system like this. Thanks for the reply EtherealN, I have version 1.2.1 version on a stick, that he's collecting today. Also very impressed that the files seem to be that small, you're right that will be a stunning benefit. Also thanks for the info about the changelogs, that should solve any issues with if larger updates if they turn up. Please don't think I was complaining, just covering all bases, which looks like you've already done. :) Thanks again for the quick reply. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
Biggus Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Well, my objection was that you were clear and stated that you'd stay with 1.2.0. There's no reason to do that - at least not a reason that has anything to do with the Autoupdater. And of course, I don't see how this has removed anything from you. The only thing you're missing out on with 1.2.1 is something no-one of us had before. So what is there to be disappointed about? That a new, additional feature, that by it's very nature requires an internet connection, does not work without an internet connection? I really don't follow that and suspect that you have misunderstood what this is and how it impacts you. I fully understand the autoupdate function. I'm certainly not losing sleep over not being able to receive these updates, but I'd love to see a manual download option so that I can grab them when I do have net access. That is all. I mentioned staying with 1.2.0 simply because it is a known quantity. I know that it runs well on my system. I also know that several users have reported problems, many of which appear to be fixed with subsequent updates.
EtherealN Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 The problem with manual download is that they'd have to then come in manually built patches, which have to be tested themselves. This would cause a good bit of extra work and is therefore not practically feasible. (If it was, then these micropatches would already have been coming before the autoupdater.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Postal2 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Hello, I just finished installing DCS World 1.2.1 and when I launched it, the auto updater kicked in. Looking at the logs I noticed my version of DCS World went from Current version: 1.2.1.5970.2711100000.002 to Latest version: 1.2.1.5970.2715200012.982. An every so slight change in versions but I can not find what exactly was updated. EDIT: I just finished installing the A10, BS2 and CA modules and I received another auto update: Went from Current version: 1.2.1.5970.2715200012.982 to Current version: 1.2.1.6055.2737600000.001 Would anyone know what the auto updater was patching? Any details? Thank you, ~ LA Goog thing !!! Now you can release Fc3 Please and correct bug after whith auto update etc ^^ :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] == http://www.3rd-wing.net == Extremmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MemphisBelle Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Sounds strange, checked *.crash files? no, I assume I can open them with notepad, right? BlackSharkDen | BSD Discord | DCS Tutorial Collection
EtherealN Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Correct. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
aap_flanker Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 hey! how can I download this updates from another pc (mac) then copy to a pendrive and install in the pc where dcs is installed???? PS: just to clarify the pc where dcs is installed has no internet connection... Intel i5 11700F + H80 | 4x4GB 3200mhz RAM | AORUS ELITE B560M | Samsung 850 PRO SSD 256gb| KINGSTON SA400 480GB SSD | WD 500GB | Gigabyte GTX 1070 8GB | Antec 1200 PSU | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and homemade panels and rudder pedals | 24" Samsung T24C550 @60Hz 2ms | Opentrack 3 led clip
Nate--IRL-- Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 hey! how can I download this updates from another pc (mac) then copy to a pendrive and install in the pc where dcs is installed???? PS: just to clarify the pc where dcs is installed has no internet connection... You can't unless you install on the internet connected computer (Use parallels or bootcamp for a mac) and update it - then copy the DCS world directory to the other computer. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
aap_flanker Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 You can't unless you install on the internet connected computer (Use parallels or bootcamp for a mac) and update it - then copy the DCS world directory to the other computer. Nate ok! thanks for the fast response! Intel i5 11700F + H80 | 4x4GB 3200mhz RAM | AORUS ELITE B560M | Samsung 850 PRO SSD 256gb| KINGSTON SA400 480GB SSD | WD 500GB | Gigabyte GTX 1070 8GB | Antec 1200 PSU | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and homemade panels and rudder pedals | 24" Samsung T24C550 @60Hz 2ms | Opentrack 3 led clip
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