Israeli Airforce shoot down mystery drone

[marcos]

http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-air-force-shoots-down-small-unpiloted-aircraft-131440054.html

 

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The Israeli air force shot down a drone after it crossed into southern Israel on Saturday, the military said, but it remained unclear where the aircraft had come from.

 

The drone was first spotted above the Mediterranean Sea in the area of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip to the west of Israel, said military spokeswoman Avital Leibovich. Once it crossed into Israeli air space, it was escorted by air force jets.

 

At about 10 a.m. (0700 GMT), after it traveled east some 35 miles across Israel's southern Negev desert, the drone was shot down above a forest in an unpopulated area near the border with the occupied West Bank, she said.

 

"We are considering this interception successful," Leibovich said. Soldiers were searching the area where the drone was downed to locate and identify the drone, the military said.

(Reporting by Ari Rabinovitch; Editing by Mark Heinrich)

[Griffin]

[159th_Viper]

Bejeebuz........talk about nearly fragging yourself with your own missile.......that was awfully close :huh:

[kyletiernan]

Nice shot Israel, love those F-16's :)

[marcos]

Bejeebuz........talk about nearly fragging yourself with your own missile.......that was awfully close :huh:

They're Israeli, they can land with only 1 wing.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

That F-16 almost collided with the drone? Why was the missile launched from such an incredible close range? Aim-9 could not lock?

 

Apparently, according to Sunday Times and others, the first missile (what type?) actually missed the drone?

Edited October 15, 2012 by =4c= Hajduk Veljko

[marcos]

I guess with a very low heat signature, it could struggle depending on what variant of the AIM-9 it is.

 

I'd have used the internal cannon. Waste of an expensive missile IMHO.

[PeterP]

 

I'd have used the internal cannon. Waste of an expensive missile IMHO.

 

 

Think about that the drone can fly much slower as the F-16 and aiming the cannon at High AOA gets very difficult - so you would have a very small time frame to use the cannon effectively while approach.

And using the cannon would also not prevent to get hit by any debris.

[marcos]

Think about that the drone can fly much slower as the F-16 and aiming the cannon at High AOA gets very difficult - so you would have a very small time frame to use the cannon effectively while approach.

And using the cannon would also not prevent to get hit by any debris.

He almost ran into it anyway.

 

Tricky(ish) but not impossible and they weren't really pushed for time/threatened. Not as tricky as trying to shoot down a Ka-50 with an A-10 on DCS for sure. The cannon would have caused less debris and might have allowed better forensic examination of the wreckage.

 

I guess if some rounds miss, there's no telling where they'll land, but the same goes for the missile that missed (according to =4c=).

 

Financially, it's roughly $500 vs $100,000. When you waste more money killing an RC plane, than re-building after a rocket attack, it gets a bit nonsensical, especially when you have to almost fly into it to get the missiles to lock.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Israelis Deploy Patriot Missiles After 'Hezbollah' Drone Enters Airspace

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/israelis-deploy-patriot-missiles-hezbollah-drone-enters-airspace/story?id=17427682#.UHwq3rQqBaQ

 

Patriot missile system as a response to a drone overflight?

 

Also, to Marco's point, it is very expensive to launch two missiles to destroy a slow moving drone.

[WildBillKelsoe]

I WISH THE NEXT DCS WOULD BE DCS F-16 ..

 

CAN I GET AN AMEN!!>>>??

[joey45]

A up lad..

[EtherealN]

Also, to Marco's point, it is very expensive to launch two missiles to destroy a slow moving drone.

 

But depending on background, using cannon might simply not be an option due to the collateral risk. Having a spray of 23mm rain over a city is something you would typically want to avoid.

[marcos]

But depending on background, using cannon might simply not be an option due to the collateral risk. Having a spray of 23mm rain over a city is something you would typically want to avoid.

20mm surely? I did mention that but who knows where the missing missile went.

 

 

 

Israelis Deploy Patriot Missiles After 'Hezbollah' Drone Enters Airspace

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/israelis-deploy-patriot-missiles-hezbollah-drone-enters-airspace/story?id=17427682#.UHwq3rQqBaQ

 

Patriot missile system as a response to a drone overflight?

 

Also, to Marco's point, it is very expensive to launch two missiles to destroy a slow moving drone.

LOL. Patriot missiles?

 

If I were Hezbollah, I'd fly an RC plane over there every day until they're bankrupt.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

But depending on background, using cannon might simply not be an option due to the collateral risk. Having a spray of 23mm rain over a city is something you would typically want to avoid.

According to USA Today, Israelis picked uninhabited area to shoot at the drone.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/10/06/israel-shoots-down-drone/1617043/

[EtherealN]

20mm surely?

 

Ooops, yeah, mixed up the calibre for the Vulcan.

[EtherealN]

According to USA Today, Israelis picked uninhabited area to shoot at the drone.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/10/06/israel-shoots-down-drone/1617043/

 

That is interesting then. Perhaps the speed delta between the jet and the drone was such that getting a shot was difficult with cannon, but that seems weird. Perhaps a tracking shot was impossible due to not getting a radar, but that also seems weird - surely it should be able to track at such a short distance?

 

Either way, I think it would be safe to assume that they don't expend ammunition on the basis of "let's use the most expensive first". :P

 

And it's not like the Israelis are the first to select missiles for this type of intercept:

 

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[Pilotasso]

UAV have minute IR signatures, and again that israeli missile has either incredible Rmin capability or the camera is playing angle tricks on us.

[Cali]

I WISH THE NEXT DCS WOULD BE DCS F-16 ..

 

CAN I GET AN AMEN!!>>>??

 

Amen brah