G940 discontinued?

[Raven68]

Has Logitech stopped offering the G940 controller? I have one that I purchased from newegg over a year ago, but wanted to see what the latest opinions on it were like and I see that they don't even offer it anymore. Then I go to the Logitech site and it doesn't show in the offerings there either. I felt the controller was skittish after I had it for a while, but now since software updates and support were dropped it just confirms that my purchase was not a good choice. Never again to Logitech. I will stay away from their products like the flu. :(

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Hmmm ... Interesting. I hope Logitech will come up with something new and better, and FFB ...

[mmaruda]

I was ready to buy one a week ago until I have read posts about broken FFB. Then I did some more digging and... well it's Logitech. For several years now they have been making crap. Even their wheels get bad opinions more often, not to mention their gaming mice (Razer went down the drain, but they still do better).

 

Basically, we seem to lack new gear and perspectives for it. CH is awesome or so I hear, but expensive, same goes for TM. With Logi out of the picture, we are left with Saitek, and they seem to stop making new stuff, so it's either going cheap with X52 or being condemned to Force sensing and crappy layout.

 

I was considering Warthog, but it's not available in my country and getting it from abroad kills the purpose in terms of price, not to mention you need pedals...

[Sci2]

if got a G940 now for a 1,5 years never had a problem with it FFB works like a charm

so i dont see the point why it shoud be a bad stick

 

if they stopped producing it than il be pretty sure they will come up with something improved

[Joe Kurr]

I have been using a G940 for over 2 years now (bought it the first week it hit the stores).

It is not a bad stick, but it has its quirks.

Recently we were doing a very long (over 2 hours) formation flight, and suddenly my FFB switched off because the stick got overheated.

A squadron member had the same issue, and tried to solve it by drilling holes in the base over the FFB motors.

 

I will continue to use it until it is worn, then I think I'll go for the TM Warthog.

[Sci2]

I have been using a G940 for over 2 years now (bought it the first week it hit the stores).

It is not a bad stick, but it has its quirks.

Recently we were doing a very long (over 2 hours) formation flight, and suddenly my FFB switched off because the stick got overheated.

A squadron member had the same issue, and tried to solve it by drilling holes in the base over the FFB motors.

 

I will continue to use it until it is worn, then I think I'll go for the TM Warthog.

 

I am switching to the TM Warthog some day as well

i havent had a overheated G940 yet if that happends il be switching to the TM Warthag straight away

[Raven68]

The problem with mine has been in the throttle recently. In the lower HAT switch the functionality ceases to work when the throttle is in certain positions randomly. My FFB has cut out from time to time also, but that's second on my list of issues. The fact that Logitech has cut support altogether is the real kicker. Not a fan anymore. If there is something new on the horizon to "replace" the G940 it wont sell with me. I'll be afraid of the same scenario of the cut and runaway on the customer now.

[Steel Jaw]

x65 is still a valid option IMHO..I have one, transitioned form the Cougar and older x55, love the x65.

[Sci2]

Only problem i had with the G940 throttle was that

the scroll wheels on each side which i used back than for camera view

 

when you moved the throttle it interfeared with the scroll wheels so your cam would look around without you touching them

simply fixed that by opening the console and get the screw out that holds the cable on its place ( its to tight )

that shoudn be necessary but it worked out pretty good so far no problems

[sobek]

so i dont see the point why it shoud be a bad stick

 

There's several reasons, the most important one being that only the stick X and Y axis use contactless sensors.

 

The other axes use potentiometers of relative low quality that seem to have a lot of noise (as well as having a huge spread concerning lifetime expectancy). Instead of replacing those with hall sensors as well, the engineers had the questionable idea of adding hysteresis to all axes (even to those equipped with hall sensors and therefore not in need of such a thing). Why they did that i do not know, i could have come up with a couple better filters to get rid of noise in just a few minutes. The nature of the hysteresis is that when you reverse your movement, the axis will only pick it up after you have moved for a bit, which, depending on your axis settings, can make formation flying quite hard.

 

I'm still scratching my head about that piece of hardware, i'm sure that the engineers had quite the restrictions to cope with (the unit price is relatively cheap for what you get), but all in all, it is a half-baked product if you ask me.

[zaelu]

problems of G940 can be solved at least partially.

 

the buttons, rotaries from throttle are due to bad wiring... wires has to be fixed in it by user or replaced.

 

the histeresis gimmick that almost destroyed the HOTAS can be fixed via a BU0836 controller.

 

I also saw that Logitech stopped selling G940 on their site. Maybe they go broke... :D

[bumfire]

I have been using a G940 for over 2 years now (bought it the first week it hit the stores).

It is not a bad stick, but it has its quirks.

Recently we were doing a very long (over 2 hours) formation flight, and suddenly my FFB switched off because the stick got overheated.

A squadron member had the same issue, and tried to solve it by drilling holes in the base over the FFB motors.

 

I will continue to use it until it is worn, then I think I'll go for the TM Warthog.

 

If that happened to me I would water cool the PoS by flushing it down the toilet. :joystick: :pain:

[Joe Kurr]

If that happened to me I would water cool the PoS by flushing it down the toilet. :joystick: :pain:

 

That would have looked a bit strange as it happened during a live demo at a flightsim event...

 

It's a bit of a surprise to me that Logitech has discontinued the G940, as they were at the last Milsim event, and were quite open to our complaints.

They even gave me a brand-new set to stress-test during the event (had to return it afterwards though :()

During the event that set didn't overheat, although it did get quite hot at times.

 

I am currently saving money for a Warthog, as my FFB is making more and more strange noises lately.

problems of G940 can be solved at least partially.

 

the buttons, rotaries from throttle are due to bad wiring... wires has to be fixed in it by user or replaced.

 

the histeresis gimmick that almost destroyed the HOTAS can be fixed via a BU0836 controller.

 

I also saw that Logitech stopped selling G940 on their site. Maybe they go broke... :D

 

Can you please elaborate on the BU0836 fix? Any guide?

 

Thanks.

[MTFDarkEagle]

Can you please elaborate on the BU0836 fix? Any guide?

 

Thanks.

 

http://www.lca.ympsa.com/g940mod.html

[Steel Jaw]

I can already tell you what happened: some idiot corporate bean counter at Logitech decided to pull the plug on it.

[S77th-konkussion]

I was ready to buy one a week ago until I have read posts about broken FFB. Then I did some more digging and... well it's Logitech. For several years now they have been making crap. Even their wheels get bad opinions more often, not to mention their gaming mice (Razer went down the drain, but they still do better).

 

Basically, we seem to lack new gear and perspectives for it. CH is awesome or so I hear, but expensive, same goes for TM. With Logi out of the picture, we are left with Saitek, and they seem to stop making new stuff, so it's either going cheap with X52 or being condemned to Force sensing and crappy layout.

 

I was considering Warthog, but it's not available in my country and getting it from abroad kills the purpose in terms of price, not to mention you need pedals...

 

 

Well CH is not expensive- you only have to buy it once.. But- I realize this is not 100% universally true depending on where you are in the world.. If there is a serious lack of CH availability, etc.. But I can tell you that this stuff is rock solid, and as dependable as the sunrise. Great software, great support. Highly recommended.

 

If you can get it, and it's anywhere close to the cost of lesser brands- it more than makes up for it with years of service.

 

So here in the US, for what it's worth- Replace anything else 1 time- you've easily exceeded a price of a full set of CH..

For the histeryesis bug, isn't there a setting in logitech software that allows changing the histeryesis to "0" instead of having to do a hardware mod?

[DD_Crash]

The problem that Logi have got is that they have lost all credibility. The G940 could have been a must buy for the flight sim community but they cocked it up by ignoring the early users reports of the wire situation in the throttle and the reversal issue on the pots used in the throttle, rudder, and rotaries. Even if they made a Warthog quality hotas with force feedback no-one would believe them.

[Raven68]

The problem that Logi have got is that they have lost all credibility. The G940 could have been a must buy for the flight sim community but they cocked it up by ignoring the early users reports of the wire situation in the throttle and the reversal issue on the pots used in the throttle, rudder, and rotaries. Even if they made a Warthog quality hotas with force feedback no-one would believe them.

 

 

Very true for me. After reading about the shortcuts/decisions made to save money on their end knowing there were solutions to these problems speaks volumes in their customer care or lack thereof. :disgust:

[Nascar]

The rudder pedals on mine are buggy, I have to set a large dead zone. The feedback can crap out if it gets too hot. Other than that, it is awesome. I don't regret buying it.

[DD_Crash]

If you do the Leo Bodnar mod you will fix the pedal issue. I will look at some cooling for the joystick as my 1st stick packed in after overheating :(

[jib]

You Still Seem to be able to buy it i the uk at least.

http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/gaming/joysticks/5855

I am quite happy with mine, I have had to rewire the thing completly but I don't think I would advise people to by it.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

It is available on Amazon for $669 !! See attached screenshot.

[Joe Kurr]

It is available on Amazon for $669 !! See attached screenshot.

 

Man, that is more than twice what we would pay here in NL.

The store where I bought it now has it on sale for 239 Euros (that is $310,46)