tflash Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Adding to the listmania, what would be your pick for military aircraft of 2012? I do not mean an aircraft launched in 2012, but an aircraft that definitely made its mark this year. For me, MV-22 Osprey tops the list: the Marines pulled this challenge of and I think they finally got it going. It brings something radically new to the table, and if there is one aircraft I would like to take a ride in, it would be this one. [edited] But maybe the most important were the transport aircraft like C-130J and C-17: absolutely world-class performers. Nominees for 'failure of the year' must be include NH-90 and Airbus A-400M, examples of how to botch things up in every conceivable way. Since Belgium has both on order, I wonder when we will ever see them in service. Remember in 2011 this prize went of course to the MRA4 Nimrod, leaving the competition behind by a large margin. Edited January 1, 2013 by tflash [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
FoxElite Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 Two crashes in one year,and i think the championship should belong to F-22 :vertag::vertag::vertag:
marcos Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 Two crashes in one year,and i think the championship should belong to F-22 :vertag::vertag::vertag: I agree and at that price too. I think the success of the year should go to either the AH-64 or the AC-130 because they kill more people in 5 minutes than many other aircraft kill in a lifetime.
Kenan Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 ^^Fighting armed pesants is not much of an accomplishment..especially if we add to it many unarmed civilians. It's like bombing villages with MiG21 and then it made such a high kill score it should be branded aircraft of the year.. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
Vekkinho Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 Second I think of the MQ-9 Reaper, that killed even more bad guys this year than the F-104 and the Harrier ever managed to kill their own pilots combined. . Yes, yes, the more people it kills the better it is. tflash I hope you're humane enought to edit your post... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tflash Posted January 1, 2013 Author Posted January 1, 2013 Agree it's not a good criterion. But what is your pick then, for 2012? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tflash Posted January 1, 2013 Author Posted January 1, 2013 Yes, yes, the more people it kills the better it is. tflash I hope you're humane enought to edit your post... Done. Sorry for that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
marcos Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 What is the purpose of a military aircraft if not to kill people?
Kuky Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 What is the purpose of a military aircraft if not to kill people? do defeat/destroy other military aircraft/equipment PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
ФрогФут Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 MiG-29K. Lots of work on that bird has been done and it is finally going to get to Russian Navy. 1 "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты.
marcos Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 do defeat/destroy other military aircraft/equipment Which usually has people in it.
Pilotasso Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 MiG-29K. Lots of work on that bird has been done and it is finally going to get to Russian Navy. Prettiest russian bird too. .
sobek Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 What is the purpose of a military aircraft if not to kill people? Deterrence. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
tflash Posted January 1, 2013 Author Posted January 1, 2013 MiG-29K. Lots of work on that bird has been done and it is finally going to get to Russian Navy. Is it planned to fly from Kuznetsov also? That would indeed be transformational, since SU-33 has only limited A/G weaponry. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Flаnker Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 Is it planned to fly from Kuznetsov also? Yes Мои авиафото
FoxElite Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 EA-18G,electronic warfare WINS! :pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly:
ED Team NineLine Posted January 1, 2013 ED Team Posted January 1, 2013 If only that worked. The scale of wars we have seen, I think its been working.... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
marcos Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 The scale of wars we have seen, I think its been working.... But in those wars they're used for killing people. Since deterrence is a very abstract non-measurable parameter, it's generally the performance in those wars that counts and acts as a deterrent.
marcos Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Remember in 2011 this prize went of course to the MRA4 Nimrod, leaving the competition behind by a large margin. The Nimrod MRA4 was a history of failure but in the closing stages the only failure was on behalf of the banks. The aircraft finally worked and a training system was even delivered for it. The UK government just decided they didn't have the cash for it and stated the historical failure of the project as a reason. By mid-2008 the only changes still going through were daft shit like more comfortable headrests.
Vault Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) IIRC the V-22 killed more men that any other aircraft in its commissioning and you give it AC of the year?. Sure it has come along leaps and bounds but its been paid for in blood. I'll vote for the PAK-FA. Edited January 5, 2013 by Vault [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
aaron886 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 So, you'll vote for an aircraft that is essentially an early prototype instead? Interesting judge of value...
Vault Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 When I want your opinion on my judgement of values. I'll give you it OK. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Krebs20 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 No opinion on the military side of things. On the civil side. After many delays and a lot of money. I think the 787 has earned top marks. It has set a new standard of efficiency and comfort. A few minor problems but it has proven itself so far. The airbus 380 has had a rough year. From engines catching fire, to cracks being found in the wing spars on low hour aircraft. I think airbus has taken a beating for this. This may have been over a year ago now. It is still fresh in my mind. Bottom score. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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