Maximus_Lazarus Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 My guess is yes, because it's incredibly annoying having to grab the mouse constantly , however, Can i control mouselook with a button on a flight stick ? And, is that comparable to Track-IR ? Isn't Track-IR taxing on your eyeballs ? (uncomortable) Track ir 4, or 5 ? I hear 5 is smoother, how much difference does it make ? Does everybody use Track-ir and a flight stick ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
acino Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 I personally don't own TrackIR but I do plan on getting one soon. It is possible to control mouselook with hats on flight stick, it is even possible to map controlling mouse cursor on your HOTAS, but both of them are quite annoying. That's why I plan on getting one. :)
Maximus_Lazarus Posted February 3, 2013 Author Posted February 3, 2013 "hats" , that was the word i was looking for . (bedankt :) edit* Damn.. 5 looks a lot better from this youtube gJuyUhRXucA [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Dave317 Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Yes you do need it, simple as that. Once you get used to it it will be the best thing you have ever bought for your pc. I have a tir4 that works perfectly well. I've never tried the tir5 so can't make a comparison.
Lange_666 Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) Does everybody use Track-ir and a flight stick ? If i remember correctly, in another post you wrote that you where an oldtimer when it came down to flightsims. What do you use, mouse and a keyboard? That's for FPS games. Edited February 3, 2013 by Lange_666 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Python Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Put simply... yes! it will change your flight simming experience more than you can imagine.... :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
statrekmike Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 If the cost of TrackIR is a bit too much (it is for me, among other issues I have with the company), you can always look into Freetrack, you would be surprised how easy it is to set up and it makes for a fun and rather rewarding weekend project. I would link it but I am not sure of the official policy on Freetrack on this forum, I know how that topic tends to go on flight sim forums...
Maximus_Lazarus Posted February 3, 2013 Author Posted February 3, 2013 If i remember correctly, in another post you wrote that you where an oldtimer when it came down to flightsims. What do you use, mouse and a keyboard? That's for FPS games. I had a thrustmaster stick , and was using mouse look yes. Anyway, ordered Track - ir 5 . Arma 3 is coming to so i guess it's a good investment [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
lxsapper Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 If the cost of TrackIR is a bit too much (it is for me, among other issues I have with the company), you can always look into Freetrack, you would be surprised how easy it is to set up and it makes for a fun and rather rewarding weekend project. I would link it but I am not sure of the official policy on Freetrack on this forum, I know how that topic tends to go on flight sim forums... Well as far as I know ED changed it's policy for Freetrack a while back and even integretes it's native API into DCS so it should be ok to post Freetrack links. I do own a trackIR (wich I bought second hand incedently) but I also have a few issues with natural point monopoly policies, if only trackIR didn't work so much better for me than I was ever able to get freetrack too.... No way I would ever had owned one I tell you. But purely speaking of the piece of kit... It's great, out of the box great. Can't even compare using hats or mouse to this.
Python Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Out of interest, what are peoples issues with Natural point? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
KLR Rico Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Freetrack user here! IMHO, headtracking is on par with a joystick as far as the "must have to fly" list. Yes, you can play without, but that's like flying with a keyboard. i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS
lxsapper Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Out of interest, what are peoples issues with Natural point? http://naturalpointofview.blogspot.pt/p/trackir-anticompetition.html A few minutes of reading should give you an idea.
PoleCat Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 How can I answer you best....hmmmm...errrrrrr. YES! Get TrackIr. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
SkateZilla Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) http://naturalpointofview.blogspot.pt/p/trackir-anticompetition.html A few minutes of reading should give you an idea. Every point on that blog is nothing but Freeloaders whining, respectfully, they have cause for some of those arguments. Natural Point has the right to restrict other developers from using their interface or including their DLLs and Link to their interface inside their software, emulation or not. They shouldn't restrict Signed Developers from Including other Interfaces though. Edited February 4, 2013 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
danilop Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 Do you need Track IR? Yes, you definitely do need a head tracking capability if you're serious about DCSW or any other simulator, be it flight, driving or whatever. If you like to DIY, you can get away with free head tracking offerings, but if you can afford it, get the real deal.
Cali Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I have had a TrackIR for a while now and if it broke, I wouldn't fly again untill I got a new one or fixed it. I've had TrackIR 2,4 and 5. I did notice a difference between the 4 and 5. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
0utLAW Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 TrackIR without a doubt! A must have for any flight sim! i7-8700k 3.70mhz|64GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaw V 3200|ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2080 8G GDDR6|AsRockZ390 Extreme4|2 Samsung 870QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB, 1 Samsung 860EVO 500GB|Corsair 750D|Corsair H-100i|Corsair AX750|LG 34GN850-B|Acer UT241Y|TM Cougar MFDs| Buddyfox UFC|TM Warthog HOTAS(Modified Spring/Slew Control Stick, Upgraded PCB, Stick Extension)|Saitek Combat Pedals|Corsair Nightsword|Corsair K70|TrackIR5|Custom A-10C Panels|
lxsapper Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Every point on that blog is nothing but Freeloaders whining, respectfully, they have cause for some of those arguments. Natural Point has the right to restrict other developers from using their interface or including their DLLs and Link to their interface inside their software, emulation or not. They shouldn't restrict Signed Developers from Including other Interfaces though. SkateZilla I really don't want to further this much as it's off topic but: Natural Point has the right to restrict other developers from using their interface or including their DLLs and Link to their interface inside their software, emulation or not. I agree, at least to a certain degree, but it's been a little hard at times because: They shouldn't restrict Signed Developers from Including other Interfaces though. What they do is as ilegal as using a couple lines of very simple code. In the states it's called Anti-Trust. Not to mention moraly wrong, sadly they most likely would not need to resort to such tactics as they have a great product and were first on the market. Also going after the DIY guys is just ridiculous. Basicaly they have a monopoly and want to keep it. It's preaty much a given that you can't get without headtracking in Flight Sims this days. Who wouldn't want to be in charge of the only company that was able to manufacture Joystick/Hotas? It's a Hard market because it's a niche market, but in the end I belive Healthy competition serves everyone the best (except the people who were hoping on a monopoly of course).
Maximus_Lazarus Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 Man this is going to take some time to get used to . It feels good sofar though I never realized how much my head was moving during "staring" at my screen . :joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mrcultureshock Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Man this is going to take some time to get used to . It feels good sofar though I never realized how much my head was moving during "staring" at my screen . :joystick: I resisted getting TrackIR for a long time but I bit the bullet and bought it last week. Man it was like a revelation. I'm still getting used but it's so much easier looking around in the cockpit. It's weird because whenever I see a picture of a cockpit of a flightsim now, I want to move my head and look around. "If you don't think too good, don't think too much" (Ted Williams)
Python Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Snap, it's like getting off of a trampoline and still feeling like you're bouncing ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Maximus_Lazarus Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 Do you guys play with a deadzone or without ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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