TeeJay82 Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 Ive noticed that turning on every system with the battery off, then engage batteries and engines does no damage to the electronics. now since this is a "real" simulator i find it strange that of probably 100times+ starting the chopper this way, nothing bad happens to any of the systems... So then i question myself... is the simulated startup procedure wrong for the DCS series? IRL i hit the batteries and engage the radio, communicate with the tower then turn off the radio and all other electronics during engine startup to prevent voltage fluctuations to the various systems (radio,Gps...) once engine is running stable at idle i switch electronic systems on.. now i only fly a 172... So please dont nuke me for asking a picky question :D
P3CFE Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 I was a flight engineer, and though you should allways preset your switches in the position... "Ready to recieve power" before you apply electrical power, witch normally means; OFF. Normal or Safe...the equipment will not emediately fail or get damaged if the switch is positioned wrongly. It would be dangerous if, for example, you would get a electrical power failure witch is restored emmidiately would damage your equipment. !!
flanker0ne Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 The Electrical System in the Ka-50 still not fully implemented. All the electrical gauges (voltmeter Amperometer ecc) on the rear wall panel are not working. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
Silver_Dragon Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 ED team has working on a electrical plugin to simulate electrical effects and fluctuations. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Luzifer Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 Also, you can't expect damages as a rule. Modern electrical systems aren't as dirty anymore and modern electronics are better protected against spikes and surges (not just planes, just look at the protection that is required for suppliers of electronic devices in cars). Quite likely pilots are still being taught to turn off the avionics prior to engine start Just In Case™ and so that they intuitively do it when they find themselves in that vintage Cessna or something.
msalama Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 ...to simulate electrical effects and fluctuations. Link? Not that I doubt it persay, would just like to see the source ;) The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
sobek Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 just look at the protection that is required for suppliers of electronic devices in cars Oh how right you are. The testing requirements to comply with ASIL B are ... exhaustive. :P:) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
IonicRipper Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 I wasn't even aware of the fluctuations when starting engines. Starting from today I'm gonna turn them on with electric systems off just in case ED adds this (and i guess its a good habit to have.) i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
flanker0ne Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 With some knowledge on the .lua programming and some info like this: ELECTRICAL LIMITATIONS BATTERY LIMITATIONS Maximum battery temperature is 65 °C, as indicated by illumination of LH BAT HOT or RH BAT HOT warning lights. Minimum voltage 20 V DC. a "Realism Patch" can be made, what you think? SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
karambiatos Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 but doesnt the KA-50 keep the sensitive electronics off until you put the throttle on the auto position? A 1000 flights, a 1000 crashes, perfect record. =&arrFilter_pf[gameversion]=&arrFilter_pf[filelang]=&arrFilter_pf[aircraft]=&arrFilter_DATE_CREATE_1_DAYS_TO_BACK=&sort_by_order=TIMESTAMP_X_DESC"] Check out my random mods and things
Devrim Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 I remember, how many times I tried to drain the batteries, but, no way... Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
sobek Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 but doesnt the KA-50 keep the sensitive electronics off until you put the throttle on the auto position? It keeps the ones off that draw too much current for the batteries (or they need higher voltages, i forgot about the bus layout in the Ka-50, does it even have an inverter?). I'm pretty sure that the checklists are written in a way that would not fry the electronics. Besides, what usually fries a circuit is an overvoltage, and any elements that would have a step response that could cause an overvoltage should be properly guarded. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Silver_Dragon Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Link? Not that I doubt it persay, would just like to see the source ;) By Yo-Yo on Russian Forum section (Need translate, use google Translator or other) http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98902 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
flanker0ne Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 but doesnt the KA-50 keep the sensitive electronics off until you put the throttle on the auto position? For the generator you are right. With the Throttles in Idle you have DC from batteries and AC from Batteries + Inverter. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
amalahama Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 By Yo-Yo on Russian Forum section (Need translate, use google Translator or other) http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98902 Yoyo stated in that post new electrical model will be available for new developments only. Regards!
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