What would YOU ask a real P-51 Pilot?

[Kwiatek]

1. The P-51 is well known for sharp departures with little warning.

 

2. Open the radiator manually; don't rely on the automatic setting.

 

You don't need to ask a real pilot for either of these questions.:pilotfly:

 

Gavagai i dont ask you but RL P-51 pilots :)

 

and what i read ( in manuals) P-51 give not bad stall warining ( buffeting) but i dont ask about it just about comparision between real P-51 and DCS P-51 accelerated stall in high angle of attack manouvers cause DCS P-51 get stall very early with stick movement ( for me it looks like DCS P-51 had very low critical angle of attack). So i wonder RL P-51 opinions about how close or how far DCS P-51 is from real thing in these.

[Tucano_uy]

Actually, I think it's valid to ask if the RL pilots believe it is properly simulated. I'd like to know how they manage the temps and what their normal procedure is. I've done a lot of reading on the subject and don't recall too many instances where they discuss overheating as a constant concern, specifically the AUTO settings.

 

 

Yep +1. In DCS AUTO seems to lag behind the temps a lot. Manually adjusting the radiators, brings the temps to normal parameters quite quickly. Why does AUTO doesn't do the same?

[gavagai]

Gavagai i dont ask you but RL P-51 pilots :)

 

and what i read ( in manuals) P-51 give not bad stall warining ( buffeting) but i dont ask about it just about comparision between real P-51 and DCS P-51 accelerated stall in high angle of attack manouvers cause DCS P-51 get stall very early with stick movement ( for me it looks like DCS P-51 had very low critical angle of attack). So i wonder RL P-51 opinions about how close or how far DCS P-51 is from real thing in these.

 

I've posted this before in threads where you asked the same question, Kwiatek.

 

Over the years we have lost more P-51 aircrews to turn related accelerated stall than any of us care to remember. Due to the P-51’s laminar flow wing...

 

http://www.warbirddepot.com/fighter_formation/documents/FFQP_Turn_Performance.pdf

 

I haven't mentioned the stall characteristics of the airplane yet because they were no surprise. I expected a fairly wild ride (regardless of what the flight manual said), and I got it. We conducted what were essentially power-off stalls, both straight ahead and turning. We had the power way back at 24 inches and set 3,000 rpm on the prop. Straight ahead, we got a little bit of elevator buffet about 5 knots before the stall. At the stall the right wing dropped, quickly I might add, to about 45 degrees of bank. But as soon as I relaxed the stick, she started flying again, and it was very easy to pick up the wing with rudder. Turning stalls were started at 130 kias and the same low power setting. I rolled into a 60-degree left bank and pulled a nice 2G turn. About 90 degrees into the turn I picked up a slight buffet and, WHAM, the airplane quickly snapped into 135 degrees of left bank. Releasing stick pressure, right rudder and a little right stick quickly brought everything back to normal. I can only imagine the wild ride we would have had if the throttle had been up, as it would be in combat. Yikes. I think with time in the airplane, you'd get a good feel for where the limit is, but once you reach that limit, hold on tight. Not much margin there. Even the normally understated test pilots described the Mustang's stall and departure characteristics as "vicious." Again, my personal "respect-o-meter" for the boys flying combat in these airplanes went up a few notches.

 

http://www.flyingmag.com/aircrafts/pistons/jet-jockey-flies-p-51-mustang?page=0,1

 

I hope you find a P-51 pilot who is willing to enter a high speed accelerated-stall for you to compare it to DCS. :thumbup:

Edited May 11, 2013 by gavagai

[-Mop-]

Simple: May i please go around with your plane? :-)

[IvanK]

Does the nose wallow around with small power changes at approach IAS ?

[Der_Fred]

Had these in my 'collection' for sometime now...

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ghya808djo3hqk/DS%20Trailer%201.wmv (22MB)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qy9i3agngldu2l/DS%20Crazy%20Horse%20Runup%20to%20TkOff%201.wmv (48MB)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0tx8d2n6qulybsk/DS%20Crazy%20Horse%20Rolls%20and%20Flight%201.wmv(48MB)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lf82vr7b1mq1t4/DS%20Crazy%20Horse%20Loops%20amd%208s%201.wmv (57MB)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qs9u3gmxf3ed631/DS%20Crazy%20Horse%20Landing%20%26%20Shutdown%201.wmv (53MB)

 

Look at Rolls and Flight at 05:14-16 for 'unannounced' accelerated stalls

[Tucano_uy]

What a beauty!!! That accelerated stall looked and feel just like in DCS

[PeterP]

Bump! -

How was the meeting?

...and any answers?

[Merlin-27]

Bump! -

How was the meeting?

...and any answers?

 

I've been wondering how it went as well :)