Maachine Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 so i picked up FSX due to the fact that you can fly the C-17. it sucks...... FSX sucks bad compared to what eagle dynamics has done. i feel this game is 20x better. the fact that DCS provides missions, a real manual, realism, and precision just makes me appreciate this game so much more. i havent played FSX all that much so far but from what i have tried, it doesnt compare. thanks ED. i'm interested to hear someone's opinion on FSX, good....bad? cause i'm about to uninstall it.
Yskonyn Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Well that is the thing, isn't it? If you dont like it, uninstall. Regardless of what others think of it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
Waxi Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 It's your opinion that should count the most. Why should you waste time with a simulation/game you're not convinced of or which you even don't like :smilewink:
ericoh Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 so i picked up FSX due to the fact that you can fly the C-17. it sucks...... FSX sucks bad compared to what eagle dynamics has done. i feel this game is 20x better. the fact that DCS provides missions, a real manual, realism, and precision just makes me appreciate this game so much more. i havent played FSX all that much so far but from what i have tried, it doesnt compare. thanks ED. i'm interested to hear someone's opinion on FSX, good....bad? cause i'm about to uninstall it. I have it too and i never understood why all these people and 3rd partys keep modifying and and playing it, it realy is a piece of..... :joystick:
xxJohnxx Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Hi, i'm interested to hear someone's opinion on FSX, good....bad? cause i'm about to uninstall it. I personally like FSX just as I like DCS World and it's AddOns. The reason for that is, that FSX has benefits, DCS doesn't have. For instance the coverage of the whole world, perfectly simulated airliners where every knob does what it should do, and pretty nice AddOn sceneries. However, I prefere the flying itselfe in DCS. It feels much better than in FSX, as you get the feeling that you move through air, while in FSX it's more like you are flying a train. Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
jens198 Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 I have FSX and the VRS F/A-18 and really like it. But if I'd to choose I'd preferred the DCS A-10C. Jens
Maachine Posted May 11, 2013 Author Posted May 11, 2013 i was curious about others opinions cause i havent really given the game a shot. i've played it less than an hour maybe. curious if people knew something about it that i didnt know.
TAnker737 Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Well to be honest I think FSX is dead. Microsoft killed it I think in dec-jan. They halted all development for flight and multiplayer for FSX which was gamespy. The only thing FSX has is the 3rd party developer community which is still strong. I bought FSX when it first came out and I recently installed it again because I saw a new plane that came out, the Majestic Dash 8. Which looked great and seem to be the best FSX plane out there but I still think there needs to be a new flight sim for commercial airlines, I don't know if X-plane is there. I heard X-plane developer Austin Meyer is not really cooperating with third parties (It's just a rumor). But i find it frustrating that there is no quality control like ED. But if anyone has more info and opinion about it i would like to hear it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i7 3930K @ 4.7Ghz | 980ti | 32gb Ram | Windows 10 64 bit | 840 Pro SSD Thrustmaster Warthog | VKB Gunfighter Pro | Slaw Device RX Viper | Acer Predator X34
cichlidfan Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 I like FSX just fine for civil flight but I don't use their controller interface, aircraft, atmospheric scenery or terrain. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Mnemonic Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 FSX is more like operating system for various flight simulations, rather than complete product. There are plenty of very high quality modules out there which one can buy or download for free for FSX, which include: aircrafts, sceneries, weather mods, wind and thermics simulation, camera effects, and many more. Graphics wise FSX can vary from complete crap to almost real graphics with numerous details, depending on what mods you use, how you configured FSX, what hardware you have. The same goes for flight dynamics and damage modelling, advanced addons like the ones of A2A simulations, use external programs which calculate flight dynamics and send it back to FSX. There are many of really amazing aircrafts made for FSX which provide real flight manuals, and require pilot to respect them. There are also plenty of super crappy addons, even payware. However you can read reviews before you buy first! And in the end, in order to get really great FSX experience you need to spend ton of money on addons and mods, this is true. 1
streakeagle Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 If you want to learn the procedures for flying civil aircraft, FSX is the place to be. Complete globe with proper navigation aids and with online multiplayer participation, you can even get practice with radio communications. The flight model is more than close enough for basic flight training. The graphics can be made to be very immersive. In general, I prefer FSX to X-Plane as a civil sim. But I almost never play FSX since I like flying military aircraft on combat missions, which brings me to the key flaws with FSX: aerodynamics at the edge of the performance envelope, avionics, and weapons. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Luzifer Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Well to be honest I think FSX is dead. Microsoft killed it I think in dec-jan. They closed the studio responsible for developing and maintaining MS Flight Simulator in January 2009. Microsoft Flight was the short lived successor.
Maachine Posted May 11, 2013 Author Posted May 11, 2013 And in the end, in order to get really great FSX experience you need to spend ton of money on addons and mods, this is true. thanks for the info. thats sort of what i was looking for. i definitely feel like i didnt buy a "complete" product. and i dont want to keep screwing around with mods because FSX has caused my computer to crash a few times now.
TAnker737 Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 They closed the studio responsible for developing and maintaining MS Flight Simulator in January 2009. Microsoft Flight was the short lived successor. Right, Thanks [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i7 3930K @ 4.7Ghz | 980ti | 32gb Ram | Windows 10 64 bit | 840 Pro SSD Thrustmaster Warthog | VKB Gunfighter Pro | Slaw Device RX Viper | Acer Predator X34
Mike Busutil Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) FSX is awesome when you get away from the default planes.... Edited May 11, 2013 by Mike Busutil [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
Harzach Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 In my opinion... FSX is a great way to learn about flight. DCS is a great way to experience flight.
tobyeez Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 You may also want to look into flying on Vatsim (Vatsim.net) for more online flying realism with FSX.
Frogisis Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 FSX is very impressive visually and in terms of the variety of aircraft, but civil aviation sims leave me pretty cold - If I'm gonna fly something, I want to fight in it, too. For when it goes wrong: Win10x64, GTX1080, Intel i7 @3.5 GHz, 32GB DDR3, Warthog HOTAS, Saitek combat rudder pedals, TrackIR 5 / Vive Pro, a case of Pabst, The Funk
Napa Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 FSX/FS2004 community is still very much alive and way bigger than DCS / FC community. FSX is all about civil aviation and it represents a very nice and realistic way to train in navigation and procedures as a RL pilot with PPL, CPL or even ATPL. It only needs the proper system requirements (as all sims and games), to spend a few hours for proper configuration of settings, hotas and addons and you are on your way. Also with some external addons such as REX for realistic weather conditions its very much near perfect if you also have addons like PMDG :) But I wouldn't recommend it to fly fighters.. it's not made for that. Intel i7 12700k / Corsair H150i Elite Capellix / Asus TUF Z690 Wifi D4 / Corsair Dominator 32GB 3200Mhz / Corsair HW1000W / 1x Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 500Gb + 1 Corsair MP600 1TB / ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 OC V2 / Fractal Design Meshify 2 / HOTAS Warthog / TFRP Rudder / TrackIR 5 / Dell U2515h 25" Monitor 1440p
ericoh Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 FSX is awesome when you get away from the default planes.... Do they not only look good but also fly like a plane not like HAWX? Cause thats what keeps me away from FSX the "on-rails" flight dynamics.
gear_monkey Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 FSX has some real potential and value for me. The problem is the attention to the behind the scenes details you have to devote to it to bring out the truley spectacular graphics and performance. I use FSX exclusively for PMDG 737 NGX. I discovered it while getting my real type rating in a Boeing 737-800. The flight model and systems detail is so real to life that I use it all the time to keep myself current in FMS, MCP, checklist flows, and RNP approaches. I haven't tried the VRS Superbug but FSX has really been useful for me. DCS A-10C is where the fun is. Win 10 64bit; 32 GB DDR4 3200 Ram; ASUS MoBo; 1TB SSD;Intel i7 8700K; GTX 1080ti 11GB; Thrustmaster Warthog;Odyssey + VR
Maachine Posted May 12, 2013 Author Posted May 12, 2013 i can see the value in FSX. i've been playing it a bit more. i've been really interested in the C-17. there is a freeware version for the C-17 which is horribly disappointing. but i found a paid version and its much better. the problem is, the flight dynamics are different between the 2 versions, which sucks......which one is more realistic? plus there are no missions for it......anywhere. all i can do is free fly, which i find boring. but i will be giving it more of a chance. i've put A-10C on hold for now until i get a high end desktop computer, big monitor, and track IR. at least i can use FSX to stay flying. thanks for the input guys
SUBS17 Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 i was curious about others opinions cause i havent really given the game a shot. i've played it less than an hour maybe. curious if people knew something about it that i didnt know. Well the good thing about FSX is actually its missions and the learning centre tutorials. There is a lot under the hood in FSX people just do not know about. The missions for FSX acceleration are quite good and immersive and you get rewards, badges and certificates.:thumbup: You can learn a lot about aviation with this sim and a lot of people do not know that or cannot be bothered it is quite a huge sim. http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3779566/Today_I_learned#Post3779566 So one fact some people do not know about the AI carriers(I think there is 4 of them) sail from port to port and back. Other cool stuff some of the missions have animated people and the voices is quite good. With the VRS Superhornet and Tacpac we now have combat in mp as well as a lot of features now that did not exist when acceleration first was released such as LSO for carriers(realistic), TACAN for carriers and SAM/AAA. As well as payware there is a lot of freeware addons that are very good. And like DCS World you have to be prepared to play the sim to find all the cool features inside it.:thumbup: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
Thick8 Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 I love FSX. Of course I have about $300 in 3rd party software and $500 in hardware that makes it both beautiful and a joy to fly. The flight physics are a little lacking but it's great for learning proper procedure. All of my posted work, ideas and contributions are licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (CC BY-NC 4.0,) which precludes commercial use but encourages sharing and building on for non-commercial purposes, ©John Muldoon
LexiconG2 Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 FSX Well if MS would have stayed with FSX and made another sim unlike FLIGHT Microsoft would have made the most realistic flight sim and would have crushed any competition. DCS can't be compared to FSX it's so much better and FSX is not in development where as DCS World is in consistent development. It's also got a long way to go as well but in the flight simulation community there is nothing better at the moment. As for FSX I used this sim until the cow literately came home. lol I loved it but I retired it and now looking for more. Sorry to make it sound like a marriage HAHA! Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
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