Cowboy10uk Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) True but here in the UK I have never paid FedEx any customs charges the reason is they are trying to avoid paying it themselves as confirmed by my accountant as their invoice reads Payment for administration and handling not Customs and Revenue collection which my accountant challenged them on at which point they waved the charges on 3 occasions strange that. Damn it's being sent by FedEx, that is not good. I have only ever been hit BY custom charges if they come from FedEx. I will say that I will be pissed if I get hit by custom charges if I could ave got it from Amazon cheaper. Not impressed that I've been charged $92.98 which is at least £10 more expensive than if I just pre ordered from Amazon. I've sent an email to Leap motion stating that fact. Thinking it will be going straight back for a full refund as I don't like paying more than others. Not a good way to look after your supporters. Cowboy10uk Edited July 21, 2013 by Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
SinCityJet Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 Touchbuddy/Helios/Surround support? My mind is boggling with the possibilities of combining TouchBuddy/A10-Server/Helios and TrackIR with a multi-screen experience even without the Rift, Nvidia Surround is giving me 5760*1200 views on my 3 main screens.. too bad there isn't a 64-bit version of SoftTH. As soon as I see you guys are using it, I'm gonna have to visit Amazon myself. Upgrading Flight Sim computers since the Apple ][.
cichlidfan Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 For whatever reason, it is not available from Amazon in the US. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 21, 2013 ED Team Posted July 21, 2013 I pre-purchased from Amazon Uk and was told I would receive the leap beginning of August Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
jay43 Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 Damn it's being sent by FedEx, that is not good. I have only ever been hit BY custom charges if they come from FedEx. I will say that I will be pissed if I get hit by custom charges if I could ave got it from Amazon cheaper. Not impressed that I've been charged $92.98 which is at least £10 more expensive than if I just pre ordered from Amazon. I've sent an email to Leap motion stating that fact. Thinking it will be going straight back for a full refund as I don't like paying more than others. Not a good way to look after your supporters. Cowboy10uk Don't quote me on the FedEx part but I did see a FedEx banner on their site so just assuming that is who they would be using. But charging up front for the Customs and Excise duty is not allowed, the product has to enter the bonded warehouse first and is then checked by customs as to whether or not Customs and Excise duty applies. I just checked my invoice from Leap and they have indicated a pre-charge for they call it tax but again its not its Customs and Excise duty so I will be cancelling that and advising them that this is not allowed hence my cancellation. FedEx are playing a dangerous game with Her Majesty's Customs officers almost as dangerous as Starbucks and they got caught and had to pay up. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit
whartsell Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 My mind is boggling with the possibilities of combining TouchBuddy/A10-Server/Helios and TrackIR with a multi-screen experience even without the Rift, Nvidia Surround is giving me 5760*1200 views on my 3 main screens.. too bad there isn't a 64-bit version of SoftTH. As soon as I see you guys are using it, I'm gonna have to visit Amazon myself. There is a 64 bit softTH 1 Arduino,EOS and Helios Tutorial Static ATC menu mod
Cowboy10uk Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 Don't quote me on the FedEx part but I did see a FedEx banner on their site so just assuming that is who they would be using. But charging up front for the Customs and Excise duty is not allowed, the product has to enter the bonded warehouse first and is then checked by customs as to whether or not Customs and Excise duty applies. I just checked my invoice from Leap and they have indicated a pre-charge for they call it tax but again its not its Customs and Excise duty so I will be cancelling that and advising them that this is not allowed hence my cancellation. FedEx are playing a dangerous game with Her Majesty's Customs officers almost as dangerous as Starbucks and they got caught and had to pay up. Sorry you got an Invoice from leap. All I got was an email stating its shipped. Before that was just an email asking me to confirm details. Mmmmmm strange. I've had nothing regarding charges or tax etc. just the initial pre order stating it will be $92.28 Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
SinCityJet Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 There is a 64 bit softTH You just made my evening. Thank you! Apparently, I've been under a rock since switching to Nvidia Surround; SoftTH has been in my toolkit since the first LockOn, but I guess I just got lazy. Now, let's hope our favorite software author and sometimes visitor to this forum has several of these on order! Upgrading Flight Sim computers since the Apple ][.
SinCityJet Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) CNet reviews Leap Motion Controller Here's a brand new CNet review of the Leap Motion Controller. The good: The Leap Motion Controller is a Kinect-like input device for Macs and Windows PCs. It has impressive 3D spatial tracking and already has dozens of compatible apps. It costs under $80. The bad: It only works with compatible apps; not as intuitive or reliable as using a touch pad, touch screen, or mouse for everyday tasks; your arms will get tired when using it. The bottom line: Leap Motion's Kinect-like PC motion controller has its moments of magic, but right now it's more toy than productivity tool. Edited July 22, 2013 by SinCityJet Added CNet Summary for the cautious clickers out there Upgrading Flight Sim computers since the Apple ][.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 22, 2013 ED Team Posted July 22, 2013 I am hoping it will do simple mouse emulation, I am not so worried about using Apps. fingers crossed for out of the box mouse emulation and compatability with DCS Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
mr_mojo97 Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 Ad there are arseholes on eBay uk selling it for £130 and £140!!!!!! MSI M5 z270 | Intel i5 7600k (OC) 4.8GHz | MSI GTX1080ti Gaming X 11Gb | 500gb Samsung 970 Evo NVME M.2 (DCS World) | 500gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD (OS and Apps) | 32Gb 2400MHz DDR4 - Crucial Ballistix | Be Quiet Silent Loop 240mm | NZXT H440 case | Thrustmaster Warthog - 47608 with Virpil Mongoose joystick base | MFG Crosswinds - 1241 | Westland Lynx collective with Bodnar X board | Pilot's seat from ZH832 Merlin | JetSeat | Oculus Rift S | Windows 10 | VA |
Cowboy10uk Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 So has anyone got theirs yet. What's it like? Is at good as we hoped? Does it all you to flick switches in dcs ? Mines still in transit, currently stating it sat Stansted so certainly getting closer. Must admit to bing slightly concerned at the negative press mind you. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
DayGlow Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 We shall see if it pans out. It has a lot if potential. I remember when trackir came out the reviews were similiar. "It takes a big man to admit he is wrong...I'm not a big man" Chevy Chase, Fletch Lives 5800X3D - 64gb ram - RTX3080 - Windows 11
MACADEMIC Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Leap Motion and DCS World Hi all, Leap Motion Leap Motion was released yesterday and I feel this device could become a gamechanger for us in flight simulations. Imagine yourself in your clickable cockpit, moving your cursor over the screen with hand movements instead of using a mouse, flicking switches, turning knobs, rotating handles with natural gestures, going through your startup sequence that way, using both hands as required and as you would in a real cockpit, and doing just the same in all other phases of flight. No more mouse, no more fumbling on the keyboard for aircraft functions, you'd just do as you would in your cockpit, with the exception of primary flight controls and throttle/prop control, which I believe should remain bound to physical devices. The big question is what level of support/integration by a software developer will be required, so that it will be possible to 'teach' Leap Motion the gestures you wish to use and make them function as desired in the simulation. I'm excited! Please discuss! :pilotfly: MAC
spikenet Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 So has anyone got theirs yet. What's it like? Is at good as we hoped? Got mine today, have just played with the basic apps it comes with, so far pretty disappointing (no pun intended). Going to have to figure out how to calibrate it as my cursor leaps around and has no precision. Will try it out latter with helios etc, fingers crossed it is basic user error :)
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 23, 2013 ED Team Posted July 23, 2013 still waiting for mine to arrive here is were its being discussed already :) http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1819593#post1819593 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
npole Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 First we should ditch those semi-arcade modules without a clickable cockpit.. then we can imagine to implement this with some profit.
MACADEMIC Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Oh, just noticed the other discussion there too. Not sure if you'd agree, but to me this thing seems bigger than just another new input device being discussed in the subforum, I leave it to the mods to decide the fate of this thread... By the way, just ordered one from amazon.co.uk, delivery after the 29th! :holiday: MAC
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 23, 2013 ED Team Posted July 23, 2013 Same for me ordered from Amazon UK delivery after 29th It does have more potential than just another input design, but I think it would take a lot of work to integrate it into DCS ( using it to actually move a pilots arms for example ) I will be happy with mouse emulation for now :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Supersheep Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Nevermind, google says that's not true. (functionality is another thing entirely). Uhm, what!? This has no mouse emulation? The bad: It only works with compatible apps; not as intuitive or reliable as using a touch pad, touch screen, or mouse for everyday tasks; your arms will get tired when using it. Edited July 23, 2013 by Supersheep The PVC Pipe Joystick Stand How to thread
jay43 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Got mine today, have just played with the basic apps it comes with, so far pretty disappointing (no pun intended). Going to have to figure out how to calibrate it as my cursor leaps around and has no precision. Will try it out latter with helios etc, fingers crossed it is basic user error :) That doesn't sound promising. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit
MACADEMIC Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Same for me ordered from Amazon UK delivery after 29th It does have more potential than just another input design, but I think it would take a lot of work to integrate it into DCS ( using it to actually move a pilots arms for example ) I will be happy with mouse emulation for now :) Would be amazing if there was that kind of integration sometime in the future. I'd imagine it pretty ideal if you could just see 'your' computerized hands, as in the video at the very end, flying around the cockpit, grabing a lever, moving it, turning a knob, etc., matching your every move in real time! But looking forward to mouse emulation as well, for a start :) MAC Edited July 23, 2013 by MACADEMIC
Suchacz Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Uhm, what!? This has no mouse emulation? Looks like it has... https://forums.leapmotion.com/showthread.php?1008-Mouse-Emulation Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
Mogster Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 It looks like an interesting novelty but I can't see this being any more than that. The main problem I can see is that after a minute or so your arms get tired, its not very ergonomic. Really other than the cool factor I can't see any advantage to controlling your PC that way and it'd take some serious integration to get this woking in game/sims. I agree it does look cool though and my finger has been hovering over the buy button on Amazon...
MACADEMIC Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 It looks like an interesting novelty but I can't see this being any more than that. The main problem I can see is that after a minute or so your arms get tired, its not very ergonomic. Really other than the cool factor I can't see any advantage to controlling your PC that way and it'd take some serious integration to get this woking in game/sims. I agree it does look cool though and my finger has been hovering over the buy button on Amazon... Well it depends on the application. I also don't see this as a complete keyboard/mouse replacement to control everything on the PC. But it's certainly not too much to ask to raise your left arm slightly to move the gear lever up when you need to, or your right arm to rotate the canopy handle in order to close it (on the Mustang). Same as in cockpit... How's the hovering going (I see what you did there :) )? MAC
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