Thinking of buying this but is it really hard to learn?

[Dudester22]

I went ahead and bought this last night, I also have track Ir and the Saitek x52 to get me started. I think once I learn how to do the start up this will push me to learn other things about this aircraft. I have always been interested in military aircraft and now is the chance to see how they work. I hope once I learn this it will help me to understand the other modules due out later a bit better. I just cannot get to grips with FC3 and the horrid amount of keyboard commands. At least with this game it's learning what the switches do and not just trying to work out numerous keyboard commands.

 

One thing I am having trouble with is getting my track IR sorted out, it's a right pain to get right. I want to be able to look around the cockpit at all the switches and things, but it seems to go all over the place when I look down or zoom in. Does anyone have a profile for track Ir I could use and also one for the Saitek x52? Does anyone even use TrackIr to zoom in?

Edited May 26, 2013 by Dudester22

[Darkwolf187]

Yeah, you'll want to adjust the default profile. I don't use TrackIR to zoom in, I just move my head closer to the screen which moves in (not a zoom).

 

Increase the deadzones if you need them. I in particular increased the sensitivity a lot of moving my head DOWN, since that's hard to do. Just play with it so it's comfortable. Note that movement should be amplified! I have to move my head about 45 degrees to do a 180 degree turn. You don't want it much less sensitive than that, since you still need to be eyes forward with your head turned.

[TimeKilla]

Am the same as above don't really use zoom as it don't work well with TrackIR was disappointed at first but you can pause TrackIR then use you're POV and normal in-game Zoom.

[Irregular programming]

Am the same as above don't really use zoom as it don't work well with TrackIR was disappointed at first but you can pause TrackIR then use you're POV and normal in-game Zoom.

 

I am not sure why you'd paus track IR, zoom works fine in conjunction with trackIR in fact as always much better with it than without.

[TimeKilla]

I am not sure why you'd paus track IR, zoom works fine in conjunction with trackIR in fact as always much better with it than without.

 

Just find it easier myself, Probley not mastered the best way to do it tho

 

Always learning.

[shagrat]

Watch this Video. Gerry explains nearly everything very detailed. You may not need all the Axis tweaking or alter settings to your liking...:thumbup:

[Darkwolf187]

One thing you will have to get used to is training yourself to keep your head still, or at least within the deadzone "box" so your view doesn't jitter. Having the trackir center hotkey bound somewhere easy to get to is vital, since during gameplay your head's "rest" position will vary.

[Irregular programming]

Just find it easier myself, Probley not mastered the best way to do it tho

 

Always learning.

 

Here is a video that I made a long time ago which shows me using the zoom view in action.

@about 08:20

 

Locking the track IR would make it a lot harder to find enemies and track them.

Edited May 26, 2013 by Irregular programming

[Dudester22]

One thing you will have to get used to is training yourself to keep your head still, or at least within the deadzone "box" so your view doesn't jitter. Having the trackir center hotkey bound somewhere easy to get to is vital, since during gameplay your head's "rest" position will vary.

 

I am not sure what I am doing wrong here, but I just cannot set the trackir to look left, right and down without a consent swaying of movement making it very hard for me to press the switches in the cockpit. I watched that video above but it does tell me how to stop this annoying swaying movement from occurring. Feels like I am in a plane after a night out in the pub at the moment. Does anyone have a profile, or can someone please explain in more detail how you stop this annoying swaying even when trying to keep your head still? Thankyou!!

[SimHog]

I am not sure what I am doing wrong here, but I just cannot set the trackir to look left, right and down without a consent swaying of movement making it very hard for me to press the switches in the cockpit. I watched that video above but it does tell me how to stop this annoying swaying movement from occurring. Feels like I am in a plane after a night out in the pub at the moment. Does anyone have a profile, or can someone please explain in more detail how you stop this annoying swaying even when trying to keep your head still? Thankyou!!

 

The way I'm reading it is you have your movement curves set too high, or your using the 'Linear' profile. Trying using a profile, or create your own, with a dead zone.

[Dudester22]

The way I'm reading it is you have your movement curves set too high, or your using the 'Linear' profile. Trying using a profile, or create your own, with a dead zone.

 

I would try to adjust the dead zone but I read that it is only limited to one place (the center) and that most people are getting this swaying due to this.

[Irregular programming]

There are two things that can cause swaying. One is if your sensitivity is too high, I myself never use a dead zone because it doesn't make much sense, but the sensitivity does, and you need to find a setting you are comfortable with.

 

The other is bad lightning conditions. The tracker can pick up light from lamps or sunlight. You might have to adjust the sensitivity setting on the tracker for it not to pick up background noise. A confused tracker may very well cause swaying.

Edited May 27, 2013 by Irregular programming

[Troutish]

One way to approach learning the A10 is to not try and learn everything at once. If you enjoy non-combat flying then just spend some time learning the navigation systems and flying from base to base in different weather conditions. Then you can gradually add in weapon systems, and finally how to respond to different damage situations.

 

Even if yoiu just want to fly around you should consider going online, joining a mission and flying there (away from the front line!). its cool to have other people online with you and the possibility that you MAY get shot down makes it a bit more exciting. dont even try to go after the targets online until you are very comfortable with the A10- you will just get discouraged by the sams.

[Dudester22]

Even if yoiu just want to fly around you should consider going online, joining a mission and flying there (away from the front line!). its cool to have other people online with you and the possibility that you MAY get shot down makes it a bit more exciting. dont even try to go after the targets online until you are very comfortable with the A10- you will just get discouraged by the sams.

 

Do you think it would pee people off though if I went on line just to hop from one base to another? I think I would enjoy that if it didn't bother anyone else.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Do you think it would pee people off though if I went on line just to hop from one base to another? I think I would enjoy that if it didn't bother anyone else.

 

Just don't crash into anyone else and you'll be fine. :thumbup:

[Troutish]

nah, just dont do it on a really crowded server where you are taking the last availiable a10 (hardly ever a problemn though)

 

 

Do you think it would pee people off though if I went on line just to hop from one base to another? I think I would enjoy that if it didn't bother anyone else.

[311Gryphon]

nah, just dont do it on a really crowded server where you are taking the last availiable a10 (hardly ever a problemn though)

 

I haven't played on a public server yet, but it's nice to hear that the community sounds rather forgiving of new and less experienced players. By the sounds of things, you'll only get treated poorly if you are griefing folks or being a Mk 1 D-Bag.

 

In other multiplayer games I've frequented it isn't so. So I have to say thanks to the community for being so cool.

[Dudester22]

I just completed learning the ramp start and even after this I must say this sim oozes class. The satisfaction you get from just learning this and preparing to contact ATC, is way better then just blasting things up in FC3. I guess it's each to their own though, but I prefer this because you actually feel like it's a real aircraft you are flying with such attention to detail. I just wish I had purchased this earlier, but I probably would have if I had known there was a tutorial to slowly guide you through it. I am just hoping that taken 5 hours to learn the ramp start from memory isn't to bad. I eventually want to make this as easy as getting into my car, but with bombs attached to it, kind of like Mad Max.

[sobek]

It gets easier, especially once you realise that the pattern is essentially the same for all aircraft. Electrics->Fuel->(APU->)Engine->Avionics. It's always the same basic principle.

[Darkwolf187]

We told you so :D

 

Welcome to the fold!

[311Gryphon]

I just wish I had purchased this earlier, but I probably would have if I had known there was a tutorial to slowly guide you through it. I am just hoping that taken 5 hours to learn the ramp start from memory isn't to bad. I eventually want to make this as easy as getting into my car, but with bombs attached to it, kind of like Mad Max.

 

Not all the tutorials are that easy to follow, intuitive, or even possible early on. I actually gave up on the tutorials after a bit. They are still very helpful but at a point I had to go learn some things from the manual, from this forum, and from YouTube and then go try them myself. I'm planning on jumping back into some tutorials now that I've actually been flying around and blowing things up to try to learn better ways to do things and refresh those things that I did learn. Basically, some of the tutorials may require some previous knowledge that I did not have at the time I went through them the first time.

 

But that's not bad at all. I also took a while to learn the cold start from memory and part of that was because I was a bit frightened by the prospect of moving on to more complex things so I just kept doing cold starts. Suddenly I was able to do it with no problems. Then I flew my first co-op mission with a friend and I was able to get a problem free start and he wasn't. It made me feel pretty good sitting there watching planes fly over the base and watching the sun go down for a few moments while he tried to troubleshoot his plane.

 

You're going to love your first Mav shot.

[Call911]

Yeah it's definatly an ongoing study sim, expecially for players like me who had zero flight sim exp. Have had this since beta an it was slow an sometimes confusing/frustrating at times. Played a mission (Pilot Search) last nite an was a lil intimidated at first by myself. My 1st run on wp1 I scanned wp1 with TGP than made a run in with a 105 from like 12000 an bomb hit as expected an 38 bad guys kaput on one pass..woot whats not to like about that 8)- Just takes time an some patience/persistance. As my friend says "This Sim is like crack."

have been hosting a practice mission with labels on that alot of fun but also has a actual mission to it feel free to hop in anytime.

http://youtu.be/ruxB1LbXVE8

Edited May 30, 2013 by Call911

[Sebastian Calvert]

I figure I might as well throw my penny’s worth of thoughts in here instead of elsewhere, so here goes. I’ve tried FS 2004, FSX, and… meh! I’ve dabbled with other sims too…(mixed results), but what’s really made me sit up and pay attention to DCS A10C is:

 

a) The sheer tour-de-force of a competent, knowledgeable, and helpful community evinced within the ED forums.

b) DCS A10C's attention to prototypical detail (from a laymans point of view, if you’re a real pilot, forgive me, I admit to simply being a PC jockey coming from a FSX very-part-time flier background, and as such, DCS A-10C seems all too real and overwhelmingly authentic to me).

 

The sheer daunting scale of these sims (which adds an element of appeal in their own right) is still, even after a week, very much, well, daunting. So one week later I'm still at the overwhelmed stage, but also loving every minute of it…. and not just the in-flight stuff. The ’modabilty’, the potential for community generated improvements, and the promised DCS Typhoon..... together, well, they are just about enough to drive my wife to seek divorce* (and if I see a working combination of the Outerra engine with a DCS sim, hell, I might just wet myself).

 

*If the TrackIR5/x52 Pro credit card statement doesn’t prompt her into a pre-emptive strike (If I'd got the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS she'd have beaten me to death with it before filing for divorce)!

[Cookie]

If I'd got the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS she'd have beaten me to death with it before filing for divorce!

You would have died a happy man though... :D

[Darkwolf187]

(If I'd got the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS she'd have beaten me to death with it before filing for divorce)!

 

Assuming she could even lift the box :D