UFO ALIEN DISCLOSURE by Canadian Minister of Defense May 2013

[RIPTIDE]

:helpsmilie:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQdvYFMBAU

 

 

 

XEQdvYFMBAU

[NineLine]

[EtherealN]

First reaction: LOL.

Second reaction: [citation needed]

Third reaction: So the UFO nuts (aside from not understanding what the "U" stands for) first spend their time saying government officials are liars, but then automatically accept a gov person when they say something they like. (And btw, i was a LONG time since this dude was in cabinet.)

Fourth reaction: Ah, we got the complete tirade about Bilderbergers etcetera. So he's a lunatic.

 

Tip: there's nothing secret about the Bilderbergers. You can easily sneak in, and many people have done so. Just that when they're not Alex Jones-type-lunatics with a commercial slot to sell, they always seem to find it unremarkable. But I guess they're part of the conspiracy. :)

 

Seriously, if you take this seriously in any way, you need a course in basic critical thinking.

[Rotorhead]

Heeey, wait! He's no lunatic! I'm sure he's got proofs for all these claims and is prepared to show them publicly at any time...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... but he decided not to. :doh:

 

Well, everybody move along. Nothing to see here.

[RIPTIDE]

I'm off to buy some guns and lasers and sh1t... Teh Aliens are here. They'll never take my freedom.

[Isegrim]

Nahhhhh now i can live peacefull and go outside like everybody else.

 

Ive been so sick about this secret over the time.

 

OK NP :glare:

 

ISE

[UCAS]

Tip: there's nothing secret about the Bilderbergers. You can easily sneak in

Ummm no.

 

 

Seriously, if you take this seriously in any way, you need a course in basic critical thinking.

Or a course in PRISM.

 

The UFOs I'm not so sure about. Pretty sure plain old humans are to blame.

Edited June 12, 2013 by UCAS

[Wolfie]

Lol, just shows Ancient Aliens is WAY ahead of the world's governments.

[PeterP]

...one word:

Chemtrails

 

 

means: People! Don't look too long in the sky and never start staring because someone else does ..., maybe just start to fix the things on the ground that are explainable and there are proved solutions to do so .

:D

Edited June 12, 2013 by PeterP

[159th_Viper]

They'll never take my freedom.

 

Right behind you!

 

*grabs his claymore*

[bumfire]

WTF, Alzheimers ???

 

Alex "mr shouty" jones will milk this shit for all its worth.

Edited June 12, 2013 by bumfire

[Ali Fish]

First reaction: LOL.

Second reaction: [citation needed]

Third reaction: So the UFO nuts (aside from not understanding what the "U" stands for) first spend their time saying government officials are liars, but then automatically accept a gov person when they say something they like. (And btw, i was a LONG time since this dude was in cabinet.)

Fourth reaction: Ah, we got the complete tirade about Bilderbergers etcetera. So he's a lunatic.

 

Tip: there's nothing secret about the Bilderbergers. You can easily sneak in, and many people have done so. Just that when they're not Alex Jones-type-lunatics with a commercial slot to sell, they always seem to find it unremarkable. But I guess they're part of the conspiracy. :)

 

Seriously, if you take this seriously in any way, you need a course in basic critical thinking.

 

well said. Personally i cant stand this stuff. to see it here at ED annoys me somewhat, but thankfully were on the correct side of the belief system.

[RIPTIDE]

well said. Personally i cant stand this stuff. to see it here at ED annoys me somewhat, but thankfully were on the correct side of the belief system.

Here's what I can't quite fathom, though. This is some sort of conference populated by people, who at some stage were very well respected people. What's the angle? Is this set up to neutralize and focus the UFO/Alien groups into a dead political end? And if so, ... why? I've always said that us hoomans were the greatest creation of the universe, without peer or equal. :pilotfly:

[Rotorhead]

well said. Personally i cant stand this stuff. to see it here at ED annoys me somewhat, but thankfully were on the correct side of the belief system.

 

This exactly describes my feeling about all this UFO nonsense. :thumbup:

 

I've always said that us hoomans were the greatest creation of the universe, without peer or equal.

 

Well, not sure about that. Its perfectly possible for equally or even more advanced species to evolve in other part of our space, just like mankind did. Theoretically, they might be out there... :alien: ... or they might not. We don't really know.

 

I will happily accept existence of extraterrestrial life as a fact, as soon as somebody comes with proofs. But by proofs, I mean solid proofs, not wild calls of some, uh... how to call this old man without offending him? :huh:

[Invader ZIM]

LOL, this Stonecutter's song from the Simpsons seemed appropriate.

 

[NineLine]

I've always said that us hoomans were the greatest creation of the universe, without peer or equal. :pilotfly:

 

What a depressing thought :)

[EtherealN]

Ummm no.

 

Actually, yes.

I know people that have done it.

 

You know what the secret is?

Don't come bearing demonstration signs and being conspicuous.

Dress in a good suit (if male) or dress (if female, I guess, I don't know a female that has done it personally), then simply walk in by a side route. It's about as easy as when sneaking into a music festival. ;) Sometimes (though not always) they rent facilities that don't even have a fence...

 

As for the piece you linked: they're not a "group". Different people get invited every year, though of course there is a core group of the most powerful that are "regulars". This stuff is about as weird as when your local college fraternity stages a party for people of their own "class".

 

But of course, yes, in the case of conspiracy-heads, nothing will ever convince them of the contrary since their minds are shut into a cycle of hyperactive pattern-seeking. Basic psychology 101 there. (But I mean, wow, they have LONG tentacles those guys, seeing so far as to even pay off ME! :D )

[UCAS]

Actually, yes.

I know people that have done it.

 

You know what the secret is?

Don't come bearing demonstration signs and being conspicuous.

Dress in a good suit (if male) or dress (if female, I guess, I don't know a female that has done it personally), then simply walk in by a side route. It's about as easy as when sneaking into a music festival. ;) Sometimes (though not always) they rent facilities that don't even have a fence...

Evidence?

 

As for the piece you linked: they're not a "group". Different people get invited every year, though of course there is a core group of the most powerful that are "regulars". This stuff is about as weird as when your local college fraternity stages a party for people of their own "class".

 

Yes. Different people get invited every year, usually just before they become Prime Minister or President. The core group is still the same though. I believe one of the members - Henry Kissenger - is still wanted for war crimes.

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2002/11/the_latest_kissinger_outrage.html

 

The idea that they simply meet for a tea party is highly humorous though. The tech CEOs once met Obama for a tea party, and a few years later PRISM. I guess you probably think political donations are made out of charity and sense of citizenship too huh? Glad you like them though bro'.

Edited June 13, 2013 by UCAS

[cichlidfan]

:megalol::megalol:

[NineLine]

[EtherealN]

Evidence?

 

Nah. In contrast to people like Alex Jones and Bhorgezio, in order to sneak in you have to make sure you are not conspiquous. Thus: you need to not be well known to the participants, and you need to not raise eyebrows through toting cameras around. (And of course, have luck with the selected venue. No, you won't get into the meeting halls, like Bhorgezio tried.)

 

Here's the point though: what is the difference between this and sneaking in to something like the GDC? None.

 

Yes. Different people get invited every year, usually just before they become Prime Minister or President. The core group is still the same though.

 

The "core group" is the steering commitee, which is gradually changed just like analogus for all other conferences in all other industries. The only difference is that these are people with power.

 

If they want to conspire, they don't need a convention. They can do that easily anyhow, if they want to. And they certainly don't need to make public publication of attendee lists and meeting topics... which they do.

 

Now, how about you show me an analysis of Bilderberg attendance vs "rising"?

These are powerful people doing a conference with similar people, quite normal. Now who would they invite as "new"? People that have no relevance? Why would they do that?

 

OF COURSE they are interested in people whose stars are waxing. That's the point. But if you want to tell me that correlation equals causality, bring it. :)

 

The idea that they simply meet for a tea party is highly humorous though.

 

Oh, and where did I say that? :)

 

The tech CEOs once met Obama for a tea party, and a few years later PRISM.

 

Source?

 

Especially curious since PRISM has been in effect since 2007.

 

I guess you probably think political donations are made out of charity and sense of citizenship too huh? Glad you like them though bro'.

 

Oh, where did I say this? Hm. That's some exquisite powers of extrapolation you've got there. :)

 

Some of your more immediate errors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man_(disambiguation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

 

And btw, I'm not interested in a discussion about Kissinger and war crimes, since that'll end up in politics and we do not allow politics on this forum. But I'll note that he actually isn't very common there... Yes, last decade he got selected to the steering committee and thus has been a usual "guest" in the last few years. But before 2008, the last time he was there was actually before I was born.

 

Seriously, give the conspiracy theories a rest. Bilderberg conspiracy crap isn't even as funny as the UFO nuts. (Though to be fair, the UFO nuts are hard to beat. :D )

[Rotorhead]

The idea that they simply meet for a tea party is highly humorous though. The tech CEOs once met Obama for a tea party, and a few years later PRISM. I guess you probably think political donations are made out of charity and sense of citizenship too huh? Glad you like them though bro'.

 

OK, I guess nobody doubts that there indeed ARE certain people or groups of them who are quite powerful and have "higher interests". Owners of international corporations, financiers, that kind of people. Unlike regular politicians, they are rarely seen, but be sure their influence on politics is no lesser.

 

After all, where is power in capitalism? Where the money is. And while world governments are usually in red numbers, those businessmen flourish. Make your own judgment.

 

BUT, while I'm certain that those rich people are surely pulling many strings, accusing them from making deals with aliens, spraying us with chemtrails, projecting holographic moon on our skies or controlling our minds through vaccines is far beyond ridiculous.

 

I was shocked when I recently found out how many people believe in this vaccine thing. But I guess it's still better to let you children die from easily avoidable diseases than to support Bilderberg, right? :chair:

Poor, poor little minds.

[NineLine]

Swamp gases... all of it.

[TimeKilla]

Swamp gases... all of it.

 

Always expect the unexpected SiThSpAwN :thumbup:

 

:megalol:

[UCAS]

Nah.

Thought so.

 

The "core group" is the steering commitee, which is gradually changed just like analogus for all other conferences in all other industries. The only difference is that these are people with power.

'Steering committee' eh? A career in politics surely awaits you.

 

If they want to conspire, they don't need a convention. They can do that easily anyhow, if they want to. And they certainly don't need to make public publication of attendee lists and meeting topics... which they do.

Not as easy as you think without leaving an electronic trace.

 

Now, how about you show me an analysis of Bilderberg attendance vs "rising"?

These are powerful people doing a conference with similar people, quite normal. Now who would they invite as "new"? People that have no relevance? Why would they do that?

 

OF COURSE they are interested in people whose stars are waxing. That's the point. But if you want to tell me that correlation equals causality, bring it. :)

Thatcher (on the way in and out). Clinton. Tony Blair. maybe they''re just running a private reality TV show to be called, "Politician Idol".

 

You say it's 'quite normal' yet you fail to suggest a plausible reason why such a meeting could be taking place. You mention 'relevance'. Relevance to what? If they're not discussing 'co-operation' between competing businesses, political manipulation and pacts, why would it matter if a person was 'relevant'? The truth is that there really isn't anything in compliance with anti-competition laws and anti-corruption laws that they could all be doing in a room together that would make such a guest list and a 'steering group' necessary. It's like walking in on your wife to find her scantily clad in leather with a whip and a naked guy chained up with an apple in his mouth. You search for an innocent explanation but know deep down that there isn't one. Should any politician spend more time listening to political suggestions from less than 100 businessmen than the rest of the population in a democracy?

 

Politicians aside, it's wrong for that many business heads to be meeting in the same room for the sake of cartel prevention. It's an offence to anti competition laws. If they're not discussing business and politics and vying for a run-around democratic decision making, what exactly do they meet for?

 

Oh, and where did I say that? :)

So what pray tell are they meeting for in your little imaginary world? Chess?

 

 

Source?

 

Especially curious since PRISM has been in effect since 2007.

Must have been when they met Bush then.

 

 

Oh, where did I say this? Hm. That's some exquisite powers of extrapolation you've got there. :)

 

Some of your more immediate errors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man_(disambiguation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

It's pretty much the same line of thinking. If you believe media, finance and political heads meeting together in private is a good thing, then you're probably naive enough to think corporations give money to political campaigns for a laugh.

 

And btw, I'm not interested in a discussion about Kissinger and war crimes, since that'll end up in politics and we do not allow politics on this forum. But I'll note that he actually isn't very common there... Yes, last decade he got selected to the steering committee and thus has been a usual "guest" in the last few years. But before 2008, the last time he was there was actually before I was born.

Such a nice man. It's great to have him shaping our future.

 

Seriously, give the conspiracy theories a rest. Bilderberg conspiracy crap isn't even as funny as the UFO nuts. (Though to be fair, the UFO nuts are hard to beat. :D )

The world's most powerful financiers, media barons and politicians meet in a room and you say the conspiracy is a theory?:doh: