Ghostly Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 To even play DCS World, I have to have all my settings on the bare minimum, and it still doesn't even get over 15 frames. In the air, I get about 9, on the ground, around 12. It is almost unplayable. I thought adding ram would help, so I installed more ram, yet it is still just as bad. Computer Specs: Processor: AMD Phenom X4 840T Processor 2.90GHZ RAM: 10GB Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4200 I have no idea what else to do. Should I buy a new processor or graphics card?
cichlidfan Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Agreed. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Ghostly Posted December 9, 2013 Author Posted December 9, 2013 What would be the most "Effective" I guess. And what are some cheap, yet decent options?
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 9, 2013 ED Team Posted December 9, 2013 did you take a look at the minimum / rec spec ? Minimum system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows Vista, 7 or 8; CPU: Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz; RAM: 6 GB; Free hard disk space: 10 GB; Video: 512 MB RAM card, DirectX 9.0c - compatible; Sound: DirectX 9.0c - compatible; requires internet activation. Recommended system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows Vista, 7 or 8; CPU: Core i5+; RAM: 8GB; Hard disk space: 10 GB; Video: Shader 3.0 or better; NVIDIA GeForce GTX560 / ATI 6950 DirectX 9.0c or better; Sound: DirectX 9.0c - compatible; DirectX: 9.0C; requires internet activation. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
tonialkon Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 I5 or I7 neu Generation CPU, and Nvidia GPU for DCS World!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ghostly Posted December 9, 2013 Author Posted December 9, 2013 Would an I5 CPU be enough, my current job doesn't really pay me too much...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 9, 2013 ED Team Posted December 9, 2013 Price is the reason I always go for a AMD / ATI setup however they do not run so well with DCS compared to INTEL / NVIDIA at the moment. I would wait for the new year as edge DirectX 11 is on the way for DCS ( and hopefully an improvement for ATI users ) and retail prices for computer components tend to drop in the new year. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Ghostly Posted December 9, 2013 Author Posted December 9, 2013 I guess I should wait it out then? I generally don't want to go buying $300 graphics cards and CPUs if I'm not even sure what I am doing. Thanks for the help guys.
Netsk Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Would an I5 CPU be enough, my current job doesn't really pay me too much... Yes it would. i7 does not offer anything gaming wise, as hyper threading is still quite not that common in games. Spend the rest on a good graphics card ;) Someone might remember me as 'FlyingRussian' from the Ubisoft Lock-On forum back in '03
Ghostly Posted December 9, 2013 Author Posted December 9, 2013 Would a EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti work in lieu of the GTX 560?
Dudester22 Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 I would buy an i7 920 or i7 930 Cpu. You could pick one of those up cheap enough and they can easily be overclocked to 4.0 Ghz. I have had mine overclocked for 3 years without ever having a freeze or crash. Of course it will have to fit your motherboard, but it's the cheapest option and by far the best.
Dudester22 Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Yes it would. i7 does not offer anything gaming wise, as hyper threading is still quite not that common in games. Spend the rest on a good graphics card ;) Not true you can easily over clock that Cpu to 4.0Ghz. Also, just turn hyperthreading of in the Bios settings if you don't want it on. I have mine off because it's crap for gaming. No affect on DCS on or off though. Edited December 9, 2013 by Dudester22
Ghostly Posted December 9, 2013 Author Posted December 9, 2013 Forget the CPU, Would the EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti work as well as the GTX 560?
Netsk Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 I would buy an i7 920 or i7 930 Cpu. You could pick one of those up cheap enough and they can easily be overclocked to 4.0 Ghz. I have had mine overclocked for 3 years without ever having a freeze or crash. Of course it will have to fit your motherboard, but it's the cheapest option and by far the best. Why spend on a i7? It does not make sense. If you have a limited budget spend more on GPU and less on CPU. 1 Someone might remember me as 'FlyingRussian' from the Ubisoft Lock-On forum back in '03
Dudester22 Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Why spend on a i7? It does not make sense. If you have a limited budget spend more on GPU and less on CPU. Because this game use the Cpu more then the Gpu. I ran the game with good FPS with an average card and a good Cpu for months. Also, the 17 930 is as cheap as chips second hand and the i7 920 is even cheaper.
Ghostly Posted December 9, 2013 Author Posted December 9, 2013 So.... go with a EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti?
Netsk Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Because this game use the Cpu more then the Gpu. I ran the game with good FPS with an average card and a good Cpu for months. i7 does not mean its faster than i5. It only has two extra virtual cores, which DCS can't use but partially. So a higher clock i5 is still faster than a lower clock i7 in DCS. About graphics cards, I would skip both and go for GTX 660 in that price range (just under 200usd i take it?) EDIT: However if you go for the GTX 650 Ti, make sure it's the Boost version. Big difference. The boost version is better than GTX 560. Edited December 9, 2013 by Netsk Someone might remember me as 'FlyingRussian' from the Ubisoft Lock-On forum back in '03
Whiplash Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 I currently run a EVGA GTX 560 Ti and I would recommend at least using a GTX 650. It's not that the 560 ti doesn't run it well, but because GTX 650 or greater is required if you ever want to run g-sync. If you don't know what that is I suggest researching it. It will require a new monitor but IMO it is the next big advancement in FPS since it synchronizes your GPU with your monitor perfectly unlike vsync. This will allow you to get buttery smooth FPS with out a $1,000 GPU. Granted you will need a monitor to support it but I would totally go with a minimum of a GTX 650 in case you decide to go that rout. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the street and then getting hit by an airplane." Dogs of War Dedicated WWII Server Thread
Dudester22 Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 i7 does not mean its faster than i5. It only has two extra virtual cores, which DCS can't use but partially. So a higher clock i5 is still faster than a lower clock i7 in DCS. About graphics cards, I would skip both and go for GTX 660 in that price range (just under 200usd i take it?) EDIT: However if you go for the GTX 650 Ti, make sure it's the Boost version. Big difference. The boost version is better than GTX 560. You talk about i5, but what i5 are you talking about? I can then look to see what it overclocks to? I'm not saying they are bad, it's just I'm thinking overclock here.
Gloom Demon Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 I would wait it out until EDGE appears, so that we become aware whether it is capable of utilizing several cores and how GPU dependent it is. Any upgrades before that would seem excessive to me. AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24'
diveplane Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 To even play DCS World, I have to have all my settings on the bare minimum, and it still doesn't even get over 15 frames. In the air, I get about 9, on the ground, around 12. It is almost unplayable. I thought adding ram would help, so I installed more ram, yet it is still just as bad. Computer Specs: Processor: AMD Phenom X4 840T Processor 2.90GHZ RAM: 10GB Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4200 I have no idea what else to do. Should I buy a new processor or graphics card? your cpu does not cut the mustard parade. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
ShuRugal Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 your cpu does not cut the mustard parade. I wouldn't be so certain of that. PassMark places the AMD 8320 in the upper third of top-end CPUs currently on the market, with an average score of 8132, outscoring my I7 4700MQ by ~200 points, and I run at 50-60 FPS in singleplayer, and 40-50 online. Something else, the problem is.
SkateZilla Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't be so certain of that. PassMark places the AMD 8320 in the upper third of top-end CPUs currently on the market, with an average score of 8132, outscoring my I7 4700MQ by ~200 points, and I run at 50-60 FPS in singleplayer, and 40-50 online. Something else, the problem is. A 1st Generation Phenom @ 2.9 GHz is easily near the bottom of the Current CPU Hierarchy Chart. A Phenom II 840T is a Pre-Cursor Version of the 3.2GHz PhenomII X4 840, Which not only is downclocked, Slower Cache and Core Architecture that's 2 years older. With Avg Rating of 35-3700 That's 1/3 to 1/4 the score of todays i-Series and FX Series CPUs. Edited December 13, 2013 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
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