genbrien Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 for the pilot, does the avionics works the same way as US planes? Do you think that getting 9 women pregnant will get you a baby in 1 month?[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe Monitor: Lg 22'' 1920*1080 CPU: i7 2600k@ 4.8Ghz +Zalman CNPS9900 max Keyboard: Logitech G15 GPU:GTX 980 Strix Mouse: Sidewinder X8 PSU: Corsair TX750w Gaming Devices: Saytek X52, TrackIr5 RAM: Mushkin 2x4gb ddr3 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz Case: 690 SSD: Intel X25m 80gb
Eddie Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 for the pilot, does the avionics works the same way as US planes? Not even slightly.
Ells228 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 No where near it lol I think VTAS might be a stretch too far Eddie but we're gonna try that too ;)
Eddie Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Yeah, VTAS will be interesting. I suppose a workaround would be to just add provison for the functions with keycommands that people can map themselves and control with one of the already available voice command programs. Honestly, my conern at the moment are the number of things fundemental to Typhoon systems that simply aren't simulated in DCS at all. If DCS itself doesn't support things like towed decoys, multiple flare types, and proper ECM amogst others, you guys are going to find it hard to model the Typhoon accurately no matter how much data you get.
Raven68 Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 for the pilot, does the avionics works the same way as US planes? Not even slightly. No where near it lol Why do i suddenly feel intimidated??? :D Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional Pimax Crystal Light /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
Eddie Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Why do i suddenly feel intimidated??? :D I think the weirdest thing for people, at least veteran simmers, will be not having an "RWR". And a 100% glass cockpit of course. Start up is a bit easier though, especially for a scramble. Battery gangbar, avionics gangbar, APU on, both throttles forward, and go.
Ells228 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 Yep she's gonna be a challenge for sure and actually some if not most of what you wrote can, in theory, be done. We'll see though. Baby steps to start with.
shagrat Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) I think the weirdest thing for people, at least veteran simmers, will be not having an "RWR". And a 100% glass cockpit of course. Well, if it even remotely mirrors the DASS Situation display from 90ies DID "EF2000", I think I get used to it quickly! RED still means "Bad guy", right?:D Edited January 14, 2014 by shagrat Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 11 | Ryzen 9 7900X3D | 64GB | GeForce RTX 4090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Eddie Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Well, if it even remotely mirrors the DASS Situation display from 90ies DID "EF2000", I think I get used to it quickly! :D I don't actually remember how EF2000 did it, t'was a long time ago. But yeah you've got the DASS format, but infomation is displayed on other displays as well so even wihtout the DASS page displayed you've still got the info. One big difference would be classification of threats, with the aircraft actually classifying friendly/hostile/unkown and being able to give range as well as azimuth, as well as automatically employing ECM/Towed decoy and/or chaff/flare. The other big thing of course is an active missile approach warning system that not only knows a missile is there, but also if it's heading for your aircraft, and the time to impact. So I suppose it's kind of similar to "game" mode. :D
Eddie Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Just seen the pic. Yep that's the one. Now, 100 points to the first one to guess what all that stuff actually means. ;)
shagrat Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Just seen the pic. Yep that's the one. Now, 100 points to the first one to guess what all that stuff actually means. ;) You mean range rings in 40nm resolution, max radar angle, arrows to priorize targets for missiles with tracking mode, red arrow seems to indicate bandit on its way to your six o'clock and "msl"... best guess is bandit has a lock on? :music_whistling: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 11 | Ryzen 9 7900X3D | 64GB | GeForce RTX 4090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Eddie Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 You mean range rings in 40nm resolution, max radar angle, arrows to priorize targets for missiles with tracking mode, red arrow seems to indicate bandit on its way to your six o'clock and "msl"... best guess is bandit has a lock on? :music_whistling: 2 out of 5. ;)
shagrat Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 :cry: *sic* Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 11 | Ryzen 9 7900X3D | 64GB | GeForce RTX 4090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
genbrien Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 don't know but I guess a lot of airline pilots would want that airspeed :) Do you think that getting 9 women pregnant will get you a baby in 1 month?[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe Monitor: Lg 22'' 1920*1080 CPU: i7 2600k@ 4.8Ghz +Zalman CNPS9900 max Keyboard: Logitech G15 GPU:GTX 980 Strix Mouse: Sidewinder X8 PSU: Corsair TX750w Gaming Devices: Saytek X52, TrackIr5 RAM: Mushkin 2x4gb ddr3 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz Case: 690 SSD: Intel X25m 80gb
siipperi Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Eurofighter seems to be kinda different plane compared to US fighters. Anyone know if the mfd-pages (map, weapon, profile...) work same way as on US fighter? And what about DATA-link between planes, is it (in theory) possible to send data in the future from Hornet to Eurofighter?
Eddie Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 The 'MFD' pages, and the avionics as a whole are quite different to the teen series US fighters. Typhoon avionics are pretty much gen 5 I'm their form and function, so have more common with the Raptor than the F-16, for example. It's still a western fighter though, so all in knots, feet, and nautical miles. And there is a flight path marker on the HUD etc. So not exactly alien. As for datalink, Typhoon uses MIDS. Which is a modern link-16 system and the same as the Eagle and Hornet. So in terms of realism, yes it could potentially share info with ED's Hornet, if they model a current block with MIDS. But as to if it'll work in DCS that would be down to ED making some kind of datalink API that the 3rd party devs can use to make datalink functionality shareable between modules.
Ells228 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 As for datalink, Typhoon uses MIDS. Which is a modern link-16 system and the same as the Eagle and Hornet. So in terms of realism, yes it could potentially share info with ED's Hornet, if they model a current block with MIDS. But as to if it'll work in DCS that would be down to ED making some kind of datalink API that the 3rd party devs can use to make datalink functionality shareable between modules. Or we write our own one and share it with ED and the other 3rd party devs :thumbup:
Ells228 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) What do you think guys, likely to happen? Edited January 14, 2014 by Ells228
Eddie Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I doubt it, there are no T1s left, they've all been upgraded to T3s. :D
HiJack Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 What do you think guys, likely to happen? Na won't happen, your all too bussy :P
Raven68 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I dont see why it couldn't happen. It's pretty much what you all at VEAO & ED can agree to...right? Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional Pimax Crystal Light /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
Ells228 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 I was talking about the Red Arrows Typhoon pics I posted, but in terms of the previous discussion the sim will allow us to do whatever we code for it, it's just making the code and sharing it and all agreeing on using it.
Raven68 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I was talking about the Red Arrows Typhoon pics I posted, but in terms of the previous discussion the sim will allow us to do whatever we code for it, it's just making the code and sharing it and all agreeing on using it. Ohhhh thanks for clarifying. I guess I'm the one needing more sleep now...:pilotfly: EDIT: Well I'll be darned. I just became a senior member. (1000 post) Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional Pimax Crystal Light /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
Ells228 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 Congrats on the 1000 post, for that reward this pic is for you ;) I like to call this one "Rifle...pickle...fox..."
Silver_Dragon Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 OMG!!! :) EFA weapons? For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
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