JayPee Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Well.. Who is/are TFC in relation to ED? On almost every official article and website I find "TFC & ED". Ar far as I could find in a quick Google attempt TFC is a club or organisation of WW2 era airplanes enthousiasts. What do they have to do with ED and developing the DCS sandbox and its modules? Just wondering... And since we're at it anyway, how do ED and Ubisoft exactly relate? Although I did not search for this myself so excuse me if it's pretty easy to Google it.. i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
Raven68 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I dont know if you have seen these, but it might help to answer some questions about the relationships. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
JayPee Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 Interesting! What I get from the first clip is that TFC is actually the party who iniated it all. i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
Raven68 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Interesting! What I get from the first clip is that TFC is actually the party who iniated it all. I gathered the same thing JayPee. I would love more history on this and more insight on the key players such as Matt, Chizh, the late Jim Mack, etc. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
JayPee Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 I could imagine they somehow split off the consumer market department and merged it somehow with the then already existing ED. Hopefully somebody with more insight will reply. i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
sobek Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Ubisoft was the publisher for LOMAC. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
JayPee Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 Who is TFC in relation to ED? While ED was the producer? i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
sobek Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Developer. A producer is something else entirely. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
JayPee Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 Who is TFC in relation to ED? Well I'm not familiar with the exact definitions in English, I only know them in Dutch. In any case Ubisoft didn't 'make' the game, they just made sure it ended up in stores and in customers' hands, right? i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
sobek Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Well I'm not familiar with the exact definitions in English, I only know them in Dutch. In any case Ubisoft didn't 'make' the game, they just made sure it ended up in stores and in customers' hands, right? Well i suppose they also came up with the money upfront to pay for EDs development effort and they now hold the intellectual property. They somewhat are to ED what a major label usually is to an (established) artist. They pay the artist and pay for the costs of album production, PR, radio air time etc. for the exploitation rights of the music that is created in the process. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
JayPee Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 Got it. Still leaves the matter partly unanswered on the relation between ED and TFC. i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
danilop Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Well i suppose they also came up with the money upfront to pay for EDs development effort and they now hold the intellectual property. They somewhat are to ED what a major label usually is to an (established) artist. They pay the artist and pay for the costs of album production, PR, radio air time etc. for the exploitation rights of the music that is created in the process. In other words, the biggest evil there is. :D Enemy of artist freedom, creativity, innovation and new ideas in general. Gaming and music industry have lot in common.
ED Team NineLine Posted January 14, 2014 ED Team Posted January 14, 2014 In other words, the biggest evil there is. :D Enemy of artist freedom, creativity, innovation and new ideas in general. Gaming and music industry have lot in common. Its ok, ED is its own private label now :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Raven68 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Its ok, ED is its own private label now :) Yesssiiirrrr!! Moving away from the clutches of Ubi! :thumbup: Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
EagleEye Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I would love more history on this and more insight on the key players such as Matt, Chizh, the late Jim Mack, etc. You can find some info about TFC/ED relationship and Jim Mack here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=104617 Matt Wagner (WAGS) is the TFC/ED producer. From an interview with him: After resigning from the CIA as an intelligence analyst in 1998, I came onboard with the Baltimore Studio of the EA / Jane’s Combat Simulations team as a designer on the F/A-18E simulation. After the studio was closed I was off to SSI (which was later absorbed by Ubisoft) to produce Flanker 2.1, IL-2 Forgotten Battles, and Lock On. After moving back east and doing some work with Break Away Ltd on some “serious games” titles, I was sent to work full time with The Fighter Collection / Eagle Dynamics to help with design and coordinate our military and game projects in the US. While at TFC/ED I’ve produced Flaming Cliffs 2, DCS: Black Shark, DCS: A-10C, and several military training projects. Deutsche DCS-Flughandbücher SYSSpecs: i7-4790K @4GHz|GA-Z97X-SLI|16GB RAM|ASUS GTX1070|Win10 64bit|TrackIR5|TM Warthog/Saitek Pro Pedals
Raven68 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 ... Thanks EagleEye. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
CTR Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 In the very beginning of Lomac there was also the name "Stormin" who played an offical(?) role. Did anyboy know more than me? [sigpic][/sigpic] Flanker driver since 1996 DxDiag.txt
leafer Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Once upon a time I had a website with info on how it all began. The information posted was verified by a member of team TFC (or was it SSI?) whose name I can't remember. In fact, he posted a response in similar thread as this one saying there was once a guy who posted such info on his website. I responded that it was me. :D Anyway, basically it went like this. Early 1990s Eagle Dynamics was show casing their Su-27 Flanker simulation at an airshow somewhere on this planet. Obviously hoping to swoon and plug a few military contracts. This original team was made up of a bunch of Russian geniuses with degrees out their booty. Quite a few of them were scientists and engineers who actually worked on the real gas thumping, fire breathing hunk of beast. Now, this same gentleman whose name I can't remember happened to be at that very airshow and noticed Chizh thumbing his nose at passers-by, and decided to coaxed the man by way of pillow talk and moderate pistol whipping into making a PC version. It took Eagle D roughly two years to port their mil sim to PC, and somewhere in the U.S. in 1995, Gilman Louie, with a nervous grin, said to his team the Russians are coming. :D Oh, yeah, I read that majority of the original team left ED. Not sure if Yo-Yo was part of the 'the' team, but I think Valery was, though, I haven't seen him around here for a long, long time. I'm almost sure I read somewhere that, think it was from Mr. Wags, the current team also has credentials such as master degrees and pom-poms out the poontang. Edited January 15, 2014 by leafer ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
159th_Viper Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Got it. Still leaves the matter partly unanswered on the relation between ED and TFC. TFC = Parent Company ED = Subsidiary Company* *At the risk of stating the obvious, Subsidiary of TFC Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
MTFDarkEagle Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 *At the risk of stating the obvious, Subsidiary of TFC :P Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
JayPee Posted January 15, 2014 Author Posted January 15, 2014 YA RLY! CPTN OBVS i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
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