diveplane Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 play around with the settings here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=119706 https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
bkthunder Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 play around with the settings here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=119706 Thanks Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
bkthunder Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 A-10 and F-15 are just as old as Su-27/33 and MiG-29. The older the engines, the more by-product smoke will be generated by them. Also a matter of maintenance and fuel quality. The TF34 is a high bypass turbofan, it will never smoke as much as it does now. The F-15 in dcs is the C version, which supposedly uses the F-100 -220 (if not 229), same engine as F-16 block 42/52. Never seen any F-16 smoke like a Mig-29, no matter the age. What we see in the video you posted is quite thick for an F-15, I give you that, yet nowhere near the length and persistence of the smoke in DCS, it's brown and you have to agree that out of a 15 minute video, only for some 10 seconds do we see any sizable amount of smoke. Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
mmaruda Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Conspiracy theorist much? It's not a conspiracy theory. Just think about it - we're told to drive a hybrid, turn the lights off, not build beats PCs with a 1000 Watt PSU, pay additional carbon taxes and stuff, while the military pollutes the crap out of the planet, detonates tactical nukes in the stratosphere (each rocket that goes into space actually produces a significant gap in the ozone layer) and faces no consequences. Noone even mentions it. For all I can tell, those pics od jets not smoking that people post here, were probably photoshoped to make the USAF look green. :mad: 1
cichlidfan Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 It's not a conspiracy theory. Just think about it - we're told to drive a hybrid, turn the lights off, not build beats PCs with a 1000 Watt PSU, pay additional carbon taxes and stuff, while the military pollutes the crap out of the planet, detonates tactical nukes in the stratosphere (each rocket that goes into space actually produces a significant gap in the ozone layer) and faces no consequences. Noone even mentions it. For all I can tell, those pics od jets not smoking that people post here, were probably photoshoped to make the USAF look green. :mad: Just a wee bit off topic aren't we? ;) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
mmaruda Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Just trying to figure an original way to protect the smoke here. I mean, we just got it, let's enjoy it a bit, shall we?
Irregular programming Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 It's not a conspiracy theory. Just think about it - we're told to drive a hybrid, turn the lights off, not build beats PCs with a 1000 Watt PSU, pay additional carbon taxes and stuff, while the military pollutes the crap out of the planet, detonates tactical nukes in the stratosphere (each rocket that goes into space actually produces a significant gap in the ozone layer) and faces no consequences. Noone even mentions it. For all I can tell, those pics od jets not smoking that people post here, were probably photoshoped to make the USAF look green. :mad: Stop it. I am more interested in why I don't get any smoke at all on my A10, and only very briefly on the F-15 I followed in game. I don't recognize any of the screenshots posted.
Exorcet Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Stop it. I am more interested in why I don't get any smoke at all on my A10, and only very briefly on the F-15 I followed in game. I don't recognize any of the screenshots posted. It seems to vary a bit in game. I had no idea what anyone was talking about because the smoke I was seeing was completely different. I turned on HDR Normal after some reading and then the smoke changed, but it still looks nothing like the screen shots here. Only the MiG-29 and F-4 are trailing black clouds. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
GGTharos Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 The TF34 is a high bypass turbofan, it will never smoke as much as it does now. The F-15 in dcs is the C version, which supposedly uses the F-100 -220 (if not 229), same engine as F-16 block 42/52. Never seen any F-16 smoke like a Mig-29, no matter the age. They don't and won't use 229's on 15Cs. The 220 is more than adequate. In any case, according to an opinion from someone who gets to see these things, the smoke for the F-15 in game is fair; perhaps in need of a little bit of tweaking, perhaps not. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Paradox Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 All these visual effects like smoke, wingtip vortices and stuff all are very dependent on light and atmospheric conditions. I like how it is currently in the absence of a fully realised weather engine that would affect these things.
Pilotasso Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 the wing tip vortices are wrong. They arch downwards instead of upwards. .
RagnarDa Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 the wing tip vortices are wrong. They arch downwards instead of upwards. Yes I noticed this too. It makes it look like the wings are providing too much lift. DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is.
tflash Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 I really like the smoke effect in 1.2.7, for me a nice addition! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
KeyCat Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) I really like the smoke effect in 1.2.7, for me a nice addition! Agree and my screen looks nothing like the pics by OP so it must be settings/hardware/driver related. /KC Edited January 28, 2014 by KeyCat
blkspade Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 One thing is for certain, the inclusion of the smoke makes for a definite equalizer in multi-player. Particularly as person who mostly flys the F-15, it was all too easy to lose visibility on the Russian jets that and not have them come up on radar as they notch 'WVR'. Now I'd like to see the AI engine cheat fixed. http://104thphoenix.com/
bkthunder Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) Some good videos. Why? F-15 and F-16 (PW F-100) You see it from the front, then from the back which is when smoke would be most noticeable Different backgrounds from blue sky to white clouds Aircraft are most probably going full military or close to it, certainly not idling. But, there's countless other videos and pictures out there. Smoke? Just a bit. And now a comparison, watch carefully... Edited January 27, 2014 by bkthunder Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
GGTharos Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I don't see anything resembling that description in-game. Smoke? A bit, certainly not a mile long trail that you can see from 20 nm away [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
bkthunder Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 How about you post a screen of what you see in game? Please. P.S. I'll delete that comment so the fanboys don't focus on that discarding the main point of my post. thx for pointing it out ;) 1 Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
GGTharos Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Look at Bolt's video here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1979610&postcount=9127 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
blkspade Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Look at Bolt's video here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1979610&postcount=9127 That is actually the extent of the smoke effect with HDR turned off, from most jets except the Mig29. http://104thphoenix.com/
bkthunder Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 That is actually the extent of the smoke effect with HDR turned off, from most jets except the Mig29. if that's with HDR OFF then it is completely different from having it on, still I'd like to see a shot from the front (showing the full extent of the smoke trail). Any ideas why that depends on HDR? I mean, I like HDR sun and stuff, why should I have to choose between HDR and realistic smoke? :huh: Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
GGTharos Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 The problem isn't with you having to choose, it's about what your opponent chooses. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Smoke adjustment is not the issue. Apparently there is a rendering issue depending on your choice of HDR. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
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