Phantom711

Sorry…bitte was hat daran ein „Geschmäckle“? Das Angebot ist doch vollkommen transparent. Es sein denn man kann nicht rechnen. Und dass man „Rabatt“ bekommt, wenn man von vornherein eine grössere „Menge“ bestellt, ist doch nun in der Geschäftswelt wirklich nicht neu.

@mediocre I works great in the Oculus UI. In DCS not so much. You need multiple attempts usually to flip a switch. Sometimes it is not recognised at all, sometimes you activate something accidentially.

So…even though I had automatic updates disabled, the Meta PC software updated itself today to v63. My Quest Pro is still on v62 as far as I can tell. It‘s still running via QuestLink (cable) and Oculus set as OpenXR runtime (no SteamVR involved). Only thing I noticed is, that ASW seams to be slower to kick in. Might be wrong though.

TLDR; Not your fault. Currently a problem between QuestLink and DCS. Will be solved in future DCS update. Workarounds: start DCS via SteamVR or use VirtualDesktop or SteamLink.

No. This is not odd. Since with QuestLink you have activated ASW and you don‘t achieve the 72FPS that would equal your HMDs 72Hz refresh rate, it starts to utilise half-rate motion reprojection at ~36FPS. Now since activating ASW has zero effect on VD, this still shows you your actual FPS. VD has an SSW option, which is their motion reprojection method. Only question I have, is why you have „locked“ 60FPS somewhere? If at all, lock it to 72FPS (assuming you are running at 72Hz refresh rate). Interesting read regarding FPS and refresh rate: https://paulbakaus.com/the-illusion-of-motion/

@Wali763 Kind of rethoric…. I am asking because you still seem to consider the Pico4 and the irony is, that it is not being sold in the US because of security concerns.

At least this part is absolutely detrimental to what you want to achieve. This extension means, that you want to force DCS to run via the OculusAPI (as opposed to OpenXR or SteamVR). And as far as I understand this would only work via MetaLink (Cable or Air).

And what exactly is the problem with using Meta?

Why would one need to take the headset off? The point is, if I press that little monitor symbol on the bar, I then see my desktop in front of me in VR and can interact with it with the mouse or the Quest controllers. @bullgod-mort So you see like an orange oval shape with an exclamation mark?

@Experimental_J73 Und machst Du auch irgendwelche von den Dingen, die wir vorschlagen?

@bullgod-mort Orange screen? And there is no bar with icons at the bottom?

It‘s worth mentioning, that there is currently a problem with Oculus and DCS. So of you made it that far, that you can see your desktop in your headset and DCS crashes during startup, don‘t worry…it‘s not you. Just come back here and we can talk about alternative ways to get it to work.

As Sebastian already mentioned, your Quest is not a Windows Mixed Reality headset, that‘s why you will not get this and also this App is completely useless to you. What you need to do: when you are in your headset environment, you need to start Quest Link. (You can click on the little clock on the left of the grey bar and then you will find it. Don‘t worry that it says „Rift S“). Then you will find yourself in some grey environment. Now click on the little monitor symbol on the bar. You can now see your desktop and can start DCS.

@jaghammer Du meinst ja vermutlich nicht mich, sondern @Experimental_J73

@derneuemann Es gibt derzeit einfach ein Problem in der Kommunikation zwischen der Meta Software und DCS. Das sollte aber hoffentlich seitens ED bald gelöst werden. Aber grundsätzlich kann man über AirLink DCS nutzen. Alternativ dazu auch noch über Virtual Desktop oder SteamLink. Letztere sollten eigentlich auch jetzt immer noch funktionieren. Batterielaufzeit ist bei kabellosem Betrieb natürlich nach 1-2 Std ein Faktor. P.S.: Wenn Du die Oculus Software immer noch installiert hast und sich sich nun länger keine Updates gezogen hat, dann schalte die automatischen Updates erstmal aus. Das angesprochene Problem besteht erst ab v63.

Hast Du vielleicht auch noch zusätzlich in letzter Zeit noch mit OpenComposite herumgespielt? Wenn ja, dann stell DCS in OpenComposite auf OpenXR um und fass es dann nie wieder an! NIE. WIEDER! Vielleicht sogar nochmal ein DCS repair danach machen. In 2D sollte DCS ja in jedem Fall starten. Da gibt es ja eigentlich gar kein Problem. Das hat sich leider für die Meisten als falsch herausgestellt.

Hier nochmal die Anleitung von jaghammer aus dem VR Unterforum. Letzter Beitrag ganz unten.

Ah…sorry, so heisst ja auch der Thread. Hatte den Überblick verloren. @Experimental_J73 Benutzt Du denn SteamLink?

Ja…das geht aber einfach momentan nicht. Wenn das wieder gelöst ist, ist es eigtl ganz einfach. In der Meta/Oculus PC software diese als OpenXR runtime auswählen. DCS MT starten. Fertig. Aber dann benutzt Du wohl die Steam-Version von DCS? Das ist eine Variable, mit der ich zugegebenermaßen keine Erfahrung habe. Weiter oben hattest Du gesagt, damit läuft es nur in 2D…?!

Apples and peaches man… It‘s not jaggies at some edges that are flickering. Now I don‘t know how old you are, but imagine looking at an old monitor or TV when they were still tubes…that‘s the kind of flickering the Reverb suffers from at 60Hz.

@Experimental_J73 Das klingt alles etwas durcheinander bei Dir. OpenComposite braucht kein Mensch mehr. Wenn ich Dich richtig verstehe, willst Du DCS über SteamVR starten. Ich habe dazu keine persönlichen Erfahrungswerte aber in jedem Fall musst Du DCS irgendwie zu Deiner Steam Bibliothek hinzufügen (oder so ähnlich). Aber das hast Du wohl, wenn ich das richtig interpretiere. Und dann setz doch einfach mal SteamVR als OpenXR runtime.

Recheck if you have the audio device set correctly in DCS and SteamVR. At least I would think that there is also such an option in SteamVR.

My suspicion is, that you ran at 120Hz at that time. Now most likely your PC just can‘t manage to get 120FPS so motion reprojection kicks in at half rate (60 FPS). When you activate SSAO your PC can‘t even deliver the 60 FPS and MR reverts to quarter-rate (30FPS). Yes…because you never managed to get 120FPS in the first place maybe. It all depends on the map and scenario, but I would say highest res and 120Hz is a bit bold for a 3080. I don‘t know, what exactly they do from a technical perspective, but most people probably agree that you should go with OpenXR. Maybe also consider getting the Link Cable. And I would strongly recommend to use the 72Hz mode, since 72 FPS are easier to achieve. (I have a 4090 and a Quest Pro and still use 72Hz)

Now as always, in that discussion FPS and refresh rate get mixed up or are sometimes being used synonymous to each other. Even though there is a relation between them, they are not the same. The OP is on the right track though. As a reference, I had the Reverb G2 and have a Quest Pro now. I doubt it. I guess you mean 72Hz with motion reprojection kicking in? The whole idea behind MR is to still show you 72 FPS (while running at 72Hz), it‘s just that every second frame is artificially created by the the GPU. It basically makes it up to the best of it‘s knowledge. I really don‘t want to pick on you, so don‘t take it as an offense. It seems, you have never had a Reverb and hence you don‘t know the flickering the OP is talking about. It‘s not about stuttering or MR artefacts. I found the game to run very smooth on the Reverb (G2) at 60Hz/60FPS but the srcreens are literally flickering especially at brighter areas (i.e. clouds) in your peripheral vision. I suspect, that this is purely a result of the frame being shown for too short and the blackout time in between frames being too long. Long story short: I use the 72Hz mode with my Quest Pro and I am very happy with it. There is no such flickering as in the Reverb. It‘s funny, how the companies mostly advertise their high refresh rates when the aim, at least for us simmers should rather be the lowest refresh rate that provides smooth gameplay. 60Hz/60FPS would probably be sufficient.

@Bishop_DE Ich glaube es geht MiG darum, VR erst noch einmal zu probieren, bevor er ggf eine VR Brille kauft.