Zimmerdylan

When it first came out, I definitely would have said no. But this plane has come a long way. It is now one of the planes I play around with the most. A lot of fun to fly and do missions in. Belsimtek really did some great work on the F86. And the Mig15 is something that you should seriously consider purchasing if you have not already. You'll find yourself struggling to keep up with it in the F86, but it's a lot of fun to blow the F86 out of the sky with the Mig15.

Yeah...I get ya on that one. But somehow, I can manage to stay just under the crutial "manic loss of stick" speed. It seems to be an unforgiving plane to me, but it's much better than a plane that just won't perform under stress. I would much rather operate on the edge of pushing limits of power than struggle to gain speed, altitude, or maneuverability as I constantly find myself doing in the Mustang. It may just be (as I have said before) that some planes suit peoples flying styles or even personalities better than others.

Exactly, you are making my point for me. ED seems to want to sell the P51 short for whatever reason. Go into ME, set up any mission (I have done this and posted the results so I know what will happen) where you pit any number of P51's against the equal number 109, or 190 without any human element at all. All AI. Give even better odds to the P51, more planes, whatever and the German planes will come out on top (usually with no casualties) 4 out of 5 times. The P51 can barely climb to 17000 feet in DCS without major struggles (even the AI). And yes....I know, everyone says this is correct, but I don't believe that it was that non functional in altitudes between 14 and18000 ft. Makes no sense as most of the 109's were shot down at lower altitudes by P51's because the Germans were instructed to bring the fight down. If the real P51's performed that poorly at those altitudes, I truly believe we'd of lost that war. I got so discouraged with the P51 that I don't bother using it unless I use it for target practice with the German planes. I use to loath flying the 109 but after learning about how it is vastly superior to the Mustang in DCS, I fly it exclusively. Mind you, I am not bashing ED. If this is what they feel the planes should act like, fine by me. I have tried to have this debate with them for a long time. I have posted pilot testimonial, watched people post statistic after statistic, and watched pilot after pilot who flew the plane say things directly contrary to the DCS model. They are insistent that the ED way is the way the planes were developed. So it is a non issue for me, a difference of opinion. Honestly. I have no quarrel with flying the 109 and stomping the mustang into the dirt (and I do all of the time). I just don't like flying the Mustang because it feels more like a Baron58 (IMO) than a fighter. It frustrates me no end. And I have talked with so many others who don't fly it for the same reason. And as I always say, this is only my opinion, formed on research that I have done and things I have seen. Everyone has their likes and dislikes, the P51 has become my dislike in DCS. There are plenty of great AC that I can play around with. I am not by any means complaining, just expressing my opinions about the plane.

But.....if you don't turn your oxygen on, you'll suffer those same effects when you start getting to higher altitudes. I have never had those effects with the Mig15, unless I forgot to turn on my oxygen. And when they happened, the effects went away within seconds of my turning the valve. Just offering it as a solution as I have made that mistake myself.

:pilotfly: +1, it's performance isn't on par at all with either of the German planes. From everything I have researched, the German planes seemed to have an edge on the P51 under certain conditions, but they were not nearly as superior as they come off in DCS. It is a hotly debated topic in the forums. My personal take is that if I am in a P51 and come up against a 109, I'll be a flaming ball hurling towards earth in short order. AI or internet, doesn't matter. If I encounter a 190, I have a better chance but still cannot out turn or run it. If I'm in a German plane, I have little trouble dispatching the P51.

I think ED did a fantastic job. No two things are exactly alike and nothing is ever perfect. But ED has come pretty close. If you want to complain about NTTR, just go fly the payware "Glitter Gulch" that's available in one of the self proclaimed "leading" flight sims. You'll never complain about NTTR again. No other sim comes remotely close to NTTR. And the sad part is, that other sims are actually using Google Earth for their maps and still don't get it in the ballpark. ED is tops with me! http://xplanereviews.com/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-2-0-25984700-1413431588.jpg See what I mean???? For the record, I'm not accusing anyone of complaining, just pointing out that ED has absolutely done the best job with their mapping and details.

I had a similar issue with the X52 and know others who have had this kind of issue. Saitek does not employ the highest quality solderers to assemble their hardware. I have had to go into more than one of their joysticks and reconnect a solder joint or two. You may want to open it up and have a look inside. I cannot speak to every case but the times that I have done it, the lose wire was very obvious. My X55 (knock wood) has not given me any problems but I know others who it has and they also found lose solder joints that came apart.

I may be waaay off base here but I was getting lots of stutter. What I realized was that my Track IR would stutter at certain zoom settings. If I re adjusted, even just a little, the stutter would go away. Sorry if I'm stating an obvious problem.

Wow! I can't even touch the Mig15 with the F86, but I beat the ever living daylights out of the F86 with the Mig. It doesn't seem to be much of a contest. So maybe if you fly the F86 against the Mig a few times, it'll show you that the Mig can outturn, outrun, and generally outfly the F86 pretty readily. I kept asking the same question about the Mig in the other forum, and everyone told me that the Mig had these advantages. And it does (for me anyway). I kind of believe that each plane has it's own plusses, strong points, and weaknesses and that one or the other's characteristics will fit a given person's flying techniques. Mine just happens to favor the Mig. I can outfly the F86 with little effort. At that point, I can toy with it and just wait until it inevitably makes a mistake.

My pilot and copilot have been whacked on many occasion. And those guys on the ground shooting AK rifles must be the best trained soldiers on earth because they almost never miss the helicopter. I would like to see the RPG guys shoot at the helicopters. That would be fun and if they're anything like the riflemen.....it would be pretty deadly. If the RPG do shoot.....I've never seen it.

Yeah.......It's like learning to drive a clutch while juggling 4 balls. I had a very hard time with roto craft at first. But there is hope!!! I learned and I am quite good at it now. I once had a music student who flew Hueys in Vietnam (he passed away some years ago). I said to the guy "Man, it sure is hard and there's waaay to much to know." And his reply was, "I've been taking music lessons for 3 years and still can't play an instrument worth a damn, I learned to fly the Huey in a couple of months." That put it all into perspective for me. A few things that I notice help me a heck of a lot. Force trim= friend. Makes hovering and level flight much more tolerable and easy. Balancing the craft and the collective is paramount (was for me anyway). Once you get that down, it's all over but the paperwork. Even though you cannot physically feel the A.C. moving in the sim, you actually can almost mentally feel it. It becomes kind of like riding a bike. And.......Once you get use to flying it around, the dynamics change when there is a load. Everything is slightly different and you have to kind of get use to it again. Of course, this is all just one guy's experience. Everyone is different.

Wow....lets try and be a little more scathing. I am just conveying what was conveyed to me. I have never sat in an A10, but I know that Rick (my student) was an instructor for many A10 pilots, and still flies today. He is on the verge of retirement where he'll be going to fly for Delta airlines this summer. I believe that his wife is an A10 mechanic. I went over your checklist for the 476th and it seems to confirm pretty much what I have said. APU before most of the electronics, And....one thing he did tell me was that pre start checks are a lot about making sure that things are off rather than on, before you go into your start procedure. This is for protection against power surges. So I don't see any argument there. And as per your checklist, all sensitive electronics are started after the APU is up and running. The radio is run from the battery and he did mention this. However, a radio is a radio is a radio. I have A.M. And F.M. Radios in my home. As do I have UHF channels on my T.V., these are probably not all that sensitive ,relatively speaking. I do not believe that he was talking about the radio. He did tell me that it was actually one of the first things that you turn on. After doing some research on APU's and their function and purpose, I see that this guy isn't filling me full of opinions. An APU produces cold air much more efficiently than any climate control unit out there. And in fact it is said that it is way too good at it and can often put out unbearably cold air bleed. So I have to side with this guy. Nothing personal mind you. I just know this guy is an A10 pilot and instructor, I know that he would not give me any stories. And again, this is his word, his instruction. Maybe you can close the canopy, but.....the guy is an instructor and I suppose he has told many a young A10 pilot of these things. I remember when I shared that the A10 never carries 3 Mavs per wing, He stated that it actually was capable of carrying 3 per wing but it was never done. So the canopy, and APU startup seems as though it goes into the same boat. It could be done but by your own startup manual, it is done in the order I talked about. So why the fuss over it??? As far as the pipper and stuff like that. He said that many pilots, not all. And in fact, in his experience, it was taught at DMAFB that the round pipper was the lesser preference because it just cluttered up the HUD. And I can actually see that when I'm playing around in the DCS A10. It does get in the way. So I have to believe that this is probably the case. But please keep in mind, that he did leave it to preference as he said "most" pilots. When he told me about the pave penny, we were talking about laser guidance and assist, and he did not go into it right away, he first asked me to look at the outside of the A/C too see if it were there ( I had no clue what that thing was), he then went into what it is there for and then he told me that this was what was used in this A10 for such purposes, and then he went on to say that it was not enabled in the DCS A10. Whether it is in use right now, he did not say. But he told me that the pod was there and that this was the laser guidance system. He told me about all the little diamonds that appear on the HUD as the lasers are picked up by the pave penny system. Possibly, and most likely, he was referring to the DCS A10 when he referenced the Pave Penny system. I have looked at 2015 photos of the A10 and indeed the Pave Penny has been removed on most of them. But he isn't wrong by any means. The guy knew what he was looking for when he mentioned it. And on a final note, he said that startup checklist moves from left to right in the cockpit. This more than confirms most of what this guy has told me. And what is on your startup list for the 476th. Checks from left to right and start up from left to right. This confirms the order of things. And I am only a messenger. I know so little about what goes on in an actual A10 cockpit that it really doesn't matter all that much to me. This is not my life, it is a hobby. I probably still won't use flaps as I find it easier to take off without them. I do know that I see all kinds of startup procedures for the DCS, A10C on YouTube and they are so random that no two are even remotely alike in 9 out of 10 cases. And even again....this does not mean every case on the internet. I stated that I could not go word for word at the beginning of my post. And I couldn't. But your manual confirms what I was saying and you seem to be denying. I don't know who you are, I'm not passing judgment. You probably know what you are talking about. But I know that once a week I sit here with a guy that I know flies the A10. He is not on my computer screen belittling others about what they say and flaunting his experience. He is not a perfect stranger. This guy right there in front of me, showing me pictures of him in his uniform in an A10. So I have to go by what he says. It's nothing personal. Just common sense so far as I am concerned. My father in law was an A10 mechanic, I don't go to him to ask about these things. So I make these posts to share what he says. And I am in no real position to argue the subject. My relationship with this gentleman is of a professional nature and I cannot afford badgering him over internet squabbles. I would rather politely debate rather than go tit for tat on who knows more. As in 90% of the cases in these matters, the facts are usually somewhere in between.

Hmm....I'm going to have to get clarification on this. I do know that he was quite clear that without the chocks, the A10 will roll under no uncertain terms. This does imply that there aren't any brakes on this plane at all. But that makes no sense if you have to land, and stop the plane. Not to mention that if you have brakes that are strong enough to stop the weight of an A10 and it's payload, then they should be able to keep it from rolling at idle. I'll have to clear this up with him. I know that he was very clear that the plane needed the chocks because it will roll, even at idle. If you are correct, then DCS modeled this pretty well. Other than the ground crew missing to take out the chocks. But this is only a formality really.

Disclaimer: This is all stuff I am remembering after the fact. Most of it is accurate as it was given to me. I may not have remembered word for word but it's pretty close. There was a guy who asked me to ask this guy a specific question. I am sorry, I did not remember what it was this time around so I did not ask. But I promise, I will on Wed. next week when the guy comes for his next music lesson. OK then.......I had my A10 pilot for his music lesson this morning. I have not been wanting to prod him too much over the past month or so, so I have not gotten much more info out of him in a while. But today, he sat with me while I started the DCS A10C, and took off. I was not able to write down or record everything he said but he did give me a boatload of information. I will do my best to share this with you. I was pretty amazed at much of what we talked about. A few things I asked him about my own personal habits: Do you always use flaps for takeoff? Absolutely!!! There is no circumstance where you would not want to use flaps on takeoff, ever. I have to note: I almost never use flaps in any plane for takeoff. I will now I guess. No no's in my startup procedure: Closing the canopy with the APU running. Reason: APU puts out very very cold air into the cockpit. In his words “It could almost spit out Ice chunks”. It makes the closed cockpit very uncomfortable. He said that the last thing that you do before Hitting the runway, or sometimes taxi, is close the canopy. Right next to shutting down the APU. Yes.....you are suppose to wait until taxi to shut down the APU. This surprised me. Why?? Because the A10 engines are not all that great at generating Consistent electrical power at idle speed. It's best to use the APU up to the time you get ready to throttle up. Do not turn on any electronic or sensitive devices before the APU is up and fully running. This made perfect sense, and in fact I have wondered about this. Obvious reason: Power surges. Duh! Oh....and he jumped on me about this (for a damn simulator none the less). Do not turn on APU or any electrical device before you push and depress the Fire Detect/ bleed air leak test button button. I wasn't sure where this was located, I had not done that test in a long time I guess(on the aux light panel). Engines need to be fired up immediately after APU is powered up. They are the first thing to get running. And then all of the magic devices get started up. This is also partly due to power surge protection. Again....makes sense to me. He also pointed out that no alarms are suppose to go off when the first engine meets full idle RPM. I do not know if this happens in other people's A10's but it does in mine. Mine makes the same sound as it does when there is an emergency or the landing gear goes up. He also pointed me to behind the headrest on the left side of the cockpit. There is suppose to be a box back there where they insert a jump drive of sorts. From what I gather, this serves the same purpose as pressing to load the mission parameters. I'm just kind of guessing, this isn't 100% though, he was a little vague on it. Either way, the box behind the seat is missing in DCS. I can see it in this video. He said that the startup sound of the engine are right on, but from taxi on, the plane does not sound like an A10 sounds from the cockpit. He said that the DCS model sounds more like a commercial plane. As we went along, and I chatted with him about the TGP, he stressed that this was modeled kind of funny. He kept mentioning that A10 pilots are pretty dependent on the Pave Penny system for much of the laser detection and guidance. I guess that it completely missing in DCS, or was integrated into the TGP. But it is the semi football shaped thing under the AC between the cockpit and nose on the underside. He showed me where it was suppose to be located in the cockpit, but it was not there, or wasn't correctly done anyway. He also said that most A10 pilots hate the round pipper for the gun. They use the cross. He use to be an A10 instructor here at DMAFB and they always called it the wasteland sight or something like that. And that most a10 pilots prefer dropping dumb bombs and using the cannon. He went so far as to say that the cannon was the primary A10 weapon. Oh......funny thing. A10 has no ground brakes at all. The chocks stay under the plane until it taxis. I was pretty surprised about that. He said that even the engine at idle will make the plane roll. But there is no ground brake. Hmm....... He also said that when they're at the ranges at NTTR. They are instructed at all cost to stay out of the box (Groom Lake). You are not allowed to go within certain parameters of that place. And....under no uncertain terms are you to land there unless you are about to lose nothing short of your life. This is a biiig no no. He kept telling me jokingly (there is no Groom Lake, it doesn't exist).

You know.....I got my Air Force pilot student coming today and I'm going to reference this puzzle to him. He flies air shows in an A10C with a P51 pilot. They do formation flying. I am no pilot by any means. But I do have common sense and the P51 being so overly breakable never made much sense to me. When I was in the military, I was issued a Jeep, and a Deuce and a Half. Both, relatively cheap vehicles compared to a P51, and both very dangerous to drive if you don't use common sense and keep relatively close to the speed regulations, especially off road. Both had heavily governed engines for both safety and maintenance reasons. It makes no sense to me at all that they would not have governed their A.C. engines in some way. I always thought that the P51 engine was too easy to break. It makes sense that they would take preventative measures on this. But, I'll ask my A10 pilot. I'm sure he'll shed light on this for me.

I have not noticed anything different. I land it all the time, feels the same at it always has.

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My only wish for DCS is to be able to playback tracks. Please, please, please, please fix this guys. I know it's not the most important feature of DCS but it is how I fix mistakes. I play back and watch myself in air combat, landing, or whatever. I find where I make mistakes and fix them. To me it is a valuable tool.

After looking at these two videos, I have resolved to get better acquainted with the 109 and 190. These pilots are saying exactly what I see Yo Yo saying a lot of the time. Watch both vids all the way through. It's very cool what these guys say. I'm going to go get good at these planes and kick some P51 a$$. [ame] [/ame] [ame] [/ame]

Today, when I was at the V.A. I ran into this guy who was a B17 pilot during WWII. He told me that he had flown over 3o missions over Germany. Naturally I didn't really know exactly what to say to the guy. Thanks? I mean, I'm sure he has heard it all before. Actually, all I really wanted to say was that I didn't know if I ever could have done what he and so many others had to do back then. All I could think was....What balls this guy must have had. Anyway, he told me that they wrote a book about him. And I found this little tidbit on him. Turns out.......he was legit! He is the pilot mentioned on the Skuawkin Chicken web site. Amazing! I could never compare my short terms in combat as a ground soldier to what any of these guys did. It makes my service seem so small. And oddly enough.....I go to the V.A. for PTSD. Talk about PTSD................ http://squawkin-chicken.384thbombgroup.com/

Whew....Thanks for the clarification.........

If I said I was confused, I'd be making a gross understatement. I pre purchased NTTR, but I do not recall seeing anything about getting a free mission or whatever. Not a big deal to me because I think I may have flown the F15 twice in all of the time I have owned the module. And, odds are about 100% that I'll not fly the Red Flag campaign at all. But.....Am I reading correctly that there will be other airports included in this pack? Airports that are local to the NTTR map to begin with? If so, WHAT??? That makes 0 sense. My best guess is that you can only access the extra airports by going into the Red Flag Campaign? I guess that I am trying to wrap my brain around all of this. Because it kind of looks as though (if this stuff is true), the NTTR that I downloaded was missing scenery, airstrips (I thought that when I first looked at it). This isn't a problem for me. It was said that this was a representation of a fictional LV. OK....not a problem. Oh man.....never mind, I'll just wait and see how this plays out.

Glad to see that you are enjoying DCS!! Welcome to the forums!!! Don't take it too seriously.........It's only a hobby. 2.0 is a hoot. I enjoy it very much. Just remember to bring your module's settings over to 2.0 when you download it. This will save you a boatload of time by having to reset all of your plane's control maps. Takes about 10 seconds as opposed to 20 minutes per plane. To transfer your user settings: Local Disk C / Users / Your Name, or whatever you log in as / Saved Games / DCS Open beta/ Config/ Input You'll see all of the file names for your modules. Copy those files Now do this again: (only look for DCS open alpha this time) Local Disk C / Users / Your Name, or whatever you log in as / Saved Games / DCS Open Alpha/ Config/ Input You'll see the same files there.......toss em, and paste the files from the Beta into the Input folder. Voila!!! You don't have to reconfigure all your modules again. Happy flying, and see you in the air somewhere.

OK....So the number to shoot for was 681. Two people chose the closest number to this number. But, one of you did it first. Congrats Chappie197606. You got it. I'll PM you and we'll work out the shipping since you are out of country from me.

Here you go Flagrum. Can't figure it out. Gunner with no track IR.trk Gunner with track IR.trk