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The large RN 24, 10 kt. nuke is completely useless, so let's see if the titchy RN 28 is any good. I use to be able to lob this about 5.2 miles, but now it's just over 4, so already it looks bad. The reason for the shortfall is the rapid reduction in speed after launch, as if it's retarded. The terminal velocity of this bomb, is less than a Mk 83 at its apex. Update: When dropped from 22000', the RN-28 bomb actually slows down to a terminal velocity of 340 kts. Safe drop is 15000' AGL. giving 4.0 nm distance. A mk 83, increases speed to 730 kts. for comparison.. ..

Dive Toss slicks, versus, Low Level Snakeye retarded. CCRP, (auto), using 12 x Mk 82 in a Dive Toss, Versus, Low Level 10 x Snakeye. Which is best in this case? Both cases need to be spotted visual and marked with DMT (Dual Mode Tracker) first. Convoy protected by: 1 x SA6 Kub, 1 x OSA 8, 1 x SA9 Strella, 5 x SA18 Igla, 1 x Shilka, 2 x Zu 23. The Osa is the most dangerous in the LL DT attack and will get you, if you don't get the job done by the 1st escape valley. So, will a Low Level, under the RADAR be better?. ..

It should do it, but it doesn't. So either use this work round or go without an outside view. (I've re-worded it, to save confusion) (Watch Pickle from the cockpit, then jump outside, F2 or F6, to see the bomb drop, or use CCIP). Bombs dropped at 400' or below at 500' interval cover the runway nicely. ..

They start to juggle and spread sideways. At this point some of them have moved from left to right and vv, until eventually they drift down like Dandelion seeds at low speed. This also occurs in the Mig 21 and L-39 and has done for years. ..

No problem here. ..

I value your input. ..

External view doesn't work in CCRP. (the bombs don't drop). Watch Pickle from the cockpit, then jump outside, F2 or F6, to see the bomb drop, or use CCIP. ..

I'm using Hat switch for Armament Delivery Mode and TDC slew. Flaps on auto. Water only needs to be turned on once and then left, although I rarely use any. Don't waste a hat switch on low priority stuff. I have every A-10 Hotas switch, about 62 functions, on my X-52. Plenty of room for the Harrier switches. TDC is important. Use the real life HOTAS setup as a guide. ..

I'm using the hat on the throttle, try that. ..

This is my result using your parameters. So what else were you expecting when dropping retards from this height? Try 300' height above runway and 500' spacing for a runway, or use slicks. (Zero wind & weather). ..

CCIP is perfectly accurate without an ARBS DMT lock. They work on different principles. Also DMT locks on the ground, not the target. If you do want to the use the DMT, unlock, move it with the FPM and relock, although I find the marker moves fast enough without having to do that. ..

Number 3, is where it starts to go tits. Number 5, is where you start to make your own rules. Thanks for the info. I'm sure we will get that system one day. ..

That's a very short runway. Are you sure you don't mean 7000' and 500' spacing. ..

Memory aid setup guide. Harrier, Low Angle Dive Toss, on an armoured column which has stopped in the mountains to refuel. Protected by, 1 x SA6 Kub, 1 x OSA 8, 1 x SA9 Strella, 5 x SA18 Igla, 1 x Shilka, 2 x Zu 23. Using the mountain as cover, it's possible to get closer, thereby increasing the accuracy of the Mk 82 lob. Convoy is at an angle, so only 1 hit is expected. I'm overflying to watch the fall of bombs (a dangerous manoeuvre). ..

@ Dangerman. Yes, that pretty much sums up the mission, It's a tough one and I have several variations of tackling it, all of which have disadvantages, mainly due to the SA 6 Kub with its long range radar and SA 8 OSA, with its very fast reaction time, (tank column is stopped). (No waypoint target designation or guided munitions allowed). At the other end of the attack profile is, Low level approach, pop up, roll in, designate, consent, pull up and toss, hard roll into the next valley, in quick succession. Tank column is moving. It's risky but more accurate. Thanks for the interest. Regards. ..

Yes it does. It's the gyro part I didn't want. ..

Thanks. Yes it does work and is an interesting variation on the High Alt. CCRP level approach. At the moment I'm working on a dive toss on a 9 x T-72 tank column in the mountains, stopped and waiting for a fuel supply. Protected by 2 x Shilka, 2 x Igla, 1 SA8 OSA and 1 SA6 KUB. Direct assault is impossible. So detect the column from radar emissions, designate the target with DMT, (or easier with waypoint), dive down to attack using the mountains as cover, pull up to toss over the mountain, hard left down the next valley, to avoid the missiles, (OSA and KUB) and back home in time for tea. ..

Thanks. ..

Is there a way to change map waypoint to target point? If so, could somebody point me to the relavent detailed operation. ..

Same thing for the Mig-21. I always use the fixed sight for both. A stable pipper is what I want. ..

Land a jet on the runway with wheels up, turn round, take off, lower the wheels, turn round and land back on the runway, without anybody noticing. ..

Tornado of course! On their farewell tour of the South of UK, today. ..

Thanks chaps. :thumbup: I'm working on another Dive Toss scenario, similar to another one I did a few years ago with Mig 21. in the mountains. In the meantime, here is one to see if I can deliver, in the face of those pesky SAMs, Snakeyes using CCRP low level. My Memory Aid vid. AAA and SAM protected bridge is the target. OSA radar range is 16nm, so it's essential to get down into the valley as soon as possible after locking the target at 24 miles. Loadout is 12 Snakeye at 12/1/004 (40') but 150' would have been better for this 1800' bridge. Ip is red roof at edge of town to line up. Don't exceed 200' AGL after exit valley. This also works with CCIP. ..

I just remembered, there are Snakeyes on at the moment. Change them for slicks or Rockeye, either will do, Rockeye with a closer lob and more chance of a hit. GL..

Hello. Disable the 2 OSA SAMs for a dive toss, 1 on the island, 1 in the convoy, or a low level approach will be necessary. GL .. RAF Harrier .miz