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The mod was part of the MiG-21-93. India because they had enough MiG-21 units at that moment in good condition for that upgrade. At the same time Russia was not able to restart the production of MiG-29 and the idea for that moment was the upgrade. Including the R-73 in that upgrade. Cuba is in a deep economic crisis and still they can’t buy new Migs. That’s why the mod. If the aged airframes were worth it for that job, that is a different discussion. Since 2000s Russia managed to restart the Migs production so no need for that mod anymore.

Trying to convince people R-60 is good enough to not look to R-73 upgrade... give me a break. Will be a pleasure have this outstanding missile in 21bis inventory. The difference in our point is that you want to dictate what is right and what is good in name of the whole DCS community as a spokesman... Is as simple as give to 21bis an improvement made in real life. As a request. That’s why the thread was made for. You can spend paragraphs with your opinions against a formally request. As Hiromachi point is giving only the Magic I missiles as an option to simulate a real life conflict against F-14A. Such idea is really welcome in my opinion. While you want to close the door to a missile to the general players. Even more important, R-73 was already used in real combat by an Indian Mig-21 in last year border incident. For your understanding the Bison upgrade was not uniformed implemented in every unit. You will find some MiG-21 upgrades in India not called a 100% Bison upgrades. Not all countries with MiG-21 were able to have MiG-29 pylons to make this mod as Cuba and India did.

Hiromachi told is more probably make only Magic I because Iraqi used it in combat as a modification. What about the use in combat of Aim-9X and we have it right now shooting down MiG-21bis from the Cold War in the sim. You can read in this thread: we don’t know the wires connection. The IR light should be adapted. The pylons should be adapted. The radar is not compatible. A bunch of stupidities never hear before in DCS and we can see It here when someone ask for a new short range missile mod as IRL show.

I understand you all with your negativity for R-73. The things is we are free people with money that pay what we can buy. I am really sorry to hear Hirmoachi telling the no go for R-73. We suddenly see Aim-9X and Igla in other modules and someone tell R-73 and Vaann! You have an armament menu to choose what you think is right for you. Let the people be happy. People here asking for a new stuff and others telling that should not happen. This is nasty! There are new simmers in the game and it is a smart move bring something new still IRL.

With R-73 we will get more punch and for sure you secure a kill instead of a return to base damage. Compatibility with radar is not needed. Work the same as R-60 in IR only mode. that will bring the module to the 21 century in as some countries did IRL. Who don't like the idea can go all the way with the armament menu and set what they want. The people that want simulate the Indian or Cuban improvements will stay with R-73. That will bring some extra money to developers and you will simulate the real life.

This video show the low level flight system. Also the Kh-59 missile and TV guiding work. Very impressive missiles for the 80s. Also I am very impressive how this variable sweep wings is still operational in good shape. That tell a lot about the build quality. The Russian added even more capability with the last modernization with a new bombing system that allow use dump bombs with decent accuracy. Such system was tested in Syria.

There is a Chinese AAA similar to the Tunguska cannons. I don’t know the name. Will be nice bring that AAA to DCS

Right now with the up to date version the crash to the desktop is continually happen to me. I do a lot of F10 map to look for distance. All in multiplayer

Since ED have unbalanced the game making only western supersonic aircraft with huge ground attack capability. Su-24 is really needed in DCS.

I will take a screenshot of this post. You have been involved in several discussions telling the contrary against Russian hardware. As in the real life you can set same missile guidance freq to an onboard radar in a pair of MiG-29 or to a pair of Buk Systems. Also they can launch the missile to an intercept point and start the guidance a while after by the second unit with same Guidance freq, while the first launcher unit already change the position. Doing so you will never get a RWR launch on time to avoid been hit. This tiny but deadly upgrade can make a big difference in DCS battlefield. Still waiting for this real life upgrade that never been done in DCS and that is a 70s Soviet tactic been in all guided radars. Obviously this is a downgrade for Russian side in the Sim.

I think taking account the great history of MiG-21 and all the upgrades have received in real life as Rumania, Cuba, India etc. did. Why not add R-73 or Israely armament. We will still stay in real life. We already have example in our Ka-50 to add igla missiles. What hurt to Magnitude-3 do the same with R-73.

If you crossing head on the F-14, mig-23 should turn in a climb and look for horizontal in a dive.

Amen Sr.

Any further Soviet module without improve the silly air defense of the current DCS is a bias and not a simulation. All the tactics in the front must be done with interaction with Air-defenses. If they keep improvement in western aircraft been MiG-21 and MiG-23 available in the game we are in a bias situation. Migs need their tactics... how come they wanted to face western tactics of Air superiority and air offensive without give it the tools to the Migs. Is important that. Is not a job for Razbam. Is an management issue for the ED westerns owners order to the russian team in Moscow work in something that need work time. I think is important for the simulation do it that.

You need to increase the size of the target in the display

Also keep in mind get an air Superiority advantage against a strong Air-defense combined with MiG-23 fighters was almost imposible. Don’t believe in what ED wanted to show you simulating the currents Air-defenses weak as possible. In a real war of 80s with a smart and well armed enemy the dogfight will be ultimate by a Soviet OSA or Buk. They never plan offensive move with MiG-23 because MiG-23 was not an Air-superiority fighter. All was made together with air defense In mind. In This simulator ED make the air-defenses tracking radar work together with search radar. This is unrealistic and ED know that. The sales and propaganda are a priority, not the simulation.

The F-5 probably don’t gonna get visual contact before been hit first. F-14 is a generation ahead probably more comparable with MiG-25 and MiG-31. F-4 have non option without Aim-120. First you need look in the main tactics MiG-23 originally was made for. High speed attack. Obviously this tactics become obsolete against newest missiles and radars. Was not build thinking in dogfight. That’s why they made it with single engine and simple as possible because also will be superior in numbers and easy to build in war time. They wanted use different tactics together with air-defense. Actually I keep thinking is a big mistake remove the production of single engine fighters.

Since long time I don’t follow this Razbam module. How they go?? Still they keep showing unpainted pictures of the unfinished model?

Not need on that. ED have the illumination rockets broken for years, lightning less than street lights.

Su-24 and Mig-27K try them

nice. thanks for test it

this bug is getting old. that mean Mig-21 cant use GPS properly for more than 2 years and the bug is not fixed.

They are not investing in WW2 soviets aircrafts either, also they are not trying to make a map to justify the soviets WW2 battles against the best Luftwaffe pilots the majority were shot-down in the East-front. this is the best proof you can see is nothing to do with Russian government as they are mention above. They are not investing in nothing about Russian hardware because they just are not interesting for.

Which screw you gonna show next?

Still on the road?