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"This map, like Normandy, requires a very high-end system. I bought it for support but I'll just ignore it until I can buy a new PC." Red, I can't agree with you about Normandy. My laptop is a seven year old AZUS. I run the Normandy map beautifully. I even fly the payware Mustang and Spit campaigns.

"I only did the instant action free flight (in a Spitfire, not P-47, since the Spit is the one I normally fly)... Not VR, 27" 1440 monitor, and I was getting 70-80 FPS pretty steadily in most areas... upper 40s and 50s flying low over Dover, et al with an occasional stutter (get that occasionally anyway). 2080 Super, but rest of the system is older... i7-4790 and 16gb RAM" Well, now, this post makes me think I may be able to run this. Have a similar system. An i7-4700Q with 20 GB of RAMM. I'm also using an external ssd which DCS seems to love. It seems that people with VR are the ones running into the fps issues.

....why don't we have a hundred skins to choose from for the Jug, yet? You skinners better get off your butts and get to work. And I don't want to hear anything about personal lives, work, family, having to sleep, and crap like that! Those are just excuses!

Or, better yet, there was no influence at all.

Everyone hears Channel map and automatically think Battle of Britain. This part of the world has been there for a while. Airplanes flew over this area from the first day of the war to the last. As a matter of fact, you can actually fly your jets over this map because England, the Channel, France....etc, are still there. Frankly, I think that the Battle of Britain has been done to death!

Kind of thought so. I don't mind flying over the Normandy and Caucuses map as I've been doing, I suppose. And yeah, my rig isn't great. Guess I'm gonna head over to the store and hit the buy button on that Jug. Thanks.

So, how does it run? I can run the Normandy map with no issues, but this is a whole lot more detailed. I just don't want to buy it, and then not even be able to use it! Are you seeing a major FPS drop? Thanks for reading.

"Access to this product is allowed only for beta testers at this moment." I don't recall ever seeing that for a module, before. But age is creeping up on me, and my memory isn't what it used to be. I don't remember ever this on a ...(only kidding!).

Well niether is Duxford, or Debden. What the hell...make the bases that are there whatever field you want them to be. I don't see this as a big deal. What worries me is how this is going to run on my machine with all of that detail.

I didn't even know this was under developement until yesterday when I was looking for some new DCS P-47 videos.

Two weeks ago where you are? I didn't know that. Where is Ponyvile, by the way? Must be a very colorful plave.

I think this would be great, but I'd like ED to have the last word as to wether it gets into the sim, or not. Just to keep the junk out and the quality up. When I was flying FSX there was plenty of free stuff. But 90% of it looked like ass, frankly.

Another fun looking civilian airplane. Looks realy good, and I'll bet it's a blast to fly.

Is there any chance that this will be out by Father's Day? I think I know what I want when she asks me.

"The Kawasaki Ki-61 used a licence built Daimler-Benz DB 601." And what the Hell does that have to do with what we're posting about?

'Glad to hear it's not just me. If I free flight the p-51d it flies great, but whenever I jump into the challenge campaign (stuck on the shoot down to ai p-51's), it's like it's a different plane.' I've noticed this for years. I get the Mustang set up in free flight to where it seems perfect, then jump into a combat scenario. I'm stalling off on one wing and spinning. Maybe we just fly a lot more aggresively in combat and don't realize it, I suppose. We aren't trying to turn as tightly when we're just flying around looking at the sights, as we are when trying to stay on someone's tail....or shake him off of ours. Watch your airspeed when doing tight turns. You should be able to hold the stick back without seeing to much speed dropping off. You see your airspeed dying off, let up on the stick pressure. This works in the '51, and should work in the '190. Speed is life in a dogfight. Loose it, and you just gave the other guy the advantage. You start mushing around at nearly stall speed and the stick feels like it's in a vat of oatmeal....and you've lost the fight.

Is the Thunderbolt as heavy as the fw190 Anton!!?? You aren't into WW2 airplanes , I'm guessing.

Okay....so when do we get to hurl our money at the screen?

You're kidding, right? Aren't you taking this a bit seriously? You want to know the chances of a fire if you get hit?

When the 352nd fighter group were flying P-51B's, one of the complaints about the airplane was that it only had 4 guns. Pilots thought it needed six. But Kit Carson, one of the groups highest scoring aces said, "If ya can't hit them with four, you can't hit them with six." So, if ya can't hit em with six, you aren't gonna hit em with eight! That said, I'm looking forward to flying the big seven ton beast in DCS. I hope they do it justice, because no combat flight sim has, yet.

"The Zero was wholly of Japanese origin." Somethng that the western nations had a hard time accepting. Even today, you will hear claims that the Zero was a copy of this American design or that one. The rascist Western mind could not accept the fact that an Asian country could have designed something better than they could.

Well, I'm glad to see that someone else thinks that the oft repeated belief that most of Germany's good pilots were gone by the time the P-51's showed up isn't true. We're only talking a matter of months, which would make the "vastly different" claim about German pilot talent hard to buy. And one thing that hasn't been mentioned. During 1943, the P-47 was NOT scoring heavily against the Luftwaffe. The 78th and the 4th were not scoring well in the airplane and the 4th did not like the Jug at all. They were happy to see it go when they converted to Mustangs. The 356th and 353rd didn't start flying missions until Otober and did not even score until late in November. Only the 56TH seemed to be doing anything with the Thunderbolt. They scored their 100th victory in the plane early in November. But they had been flying missions since April. The numbers just don't show that the P-47 was decimating the Luftwaffe that year. It was a tactics change early in 44 that really changed things. They got more agressive and scores began to climb. But, by then, the Mustangs were showing up.

I think that it's a bit cartoonish looking, also. Maybe it's the lighting. I don't know. But when I'm in it I can't suspend my disbelief. I'm aware, the entire time, that I'm in a game. I mentioned, before , that I fly in real life. I've never flown a WW2 fighter. But I do have over 500 hours under my belt and I've owned two airplanes. I know what it feels like to FLY. When I'm in DCS, I feel as though I'm controling an airplane. That's important to me when flying flight simulator. When I'm flying one of my DCS modules I strive to fy as realistically as possible. I attempt to get my landing down right. Last night, after not having flown the Spit in a while, I decided to practice some landings. Terrible! I must have landed about 15 times before I was happy with the way I got it down. It really never matters much to me, in IL-2. Even if I bang it up on landing, I figure, "Ah, I'm down, who cares?" I fly one like a real airplane, and the other like a game.

Barret, your statement is flawed and confused. You include correct and incorrect infomation. Let's look at this logically. There was obviously a need for escort fighters and it was realized by the USAAF high commad. If they hadn't believed that, the 8TH Air Force would have been an all bomber air force. It would not have had any fighters attached to it. The P-47 carried a rediculously small amount of fuel. It did not have wet wings, as you know. That didn't happen until the N. A 2600 horse Pratt and Whitney used up fuel at almost 100 gallons per hour! So take off an entire group of Thunderbolts, 60 planes. form up over the field as a unit, then finally set out on your escort mission. You've just used about 40 minutes of flying time. 20 miles across the Channel, and not in straight line. You have to weave to stay with the bombers because they're doing only 150 miles an hour. You finally go feet dry and you've got enough fuel left to fight for about 15 minutes and then you'd better head home or you're gonna wind up in the ice cold waters of the English Channel or the North Sea. The first drop tanks, the tear shaped units, only carried 75 gallons. Not even an hours worth. The Mustang was ordered into production by Hap Arnold as soon as he saw one demonstrated. It was the escort fighter he needed. And this was early in 1943, so the need for escorts was known. Eventually, the P-47 was reaching Germany. But it was the new 108 gallon paper tanks that got them there. And Cass Hough was a major force in getting those to the 8TH Air Force.They often carried three of them. Over three hours more fuel. Now we were talking range! And added to that was the fact that American fighters could keep the tanks on longer, now, because the Luftwaffe had moved most of it's West based fighter units back to Germany. German fighter were no longer forcing U.S. fighters to drop their tanks as soon as they crosed the coast. The Bomber Barons were responsible for the U.S. not having enough good fighters when the war began. They made sure that most of the Air Corps money went to bomber developemet. So the country started the war with some of the finest bombers ever built. But the best fighter the U.S. could field in 1941, was the P-40. But the need was realized. Too slowly, for some, but it ws realized and fixed. But there is no way that anyone, during the terrible days of late summer and Autumn of 1943, that anyone thought that long range escort fighters were not needed. Sorry to have gone on so long.