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Thanks Mustang. I dont think I could fly without it :)

Any issues with this in World 1.2.1 ?

Ok...I clicked it. That was good. Smartass :smilewink:

So....no more guessing on when this will be released? Bah...someone enterain me.

I agree with your observations, except for the fun part. :thumbup:

So....did you get the money yet????? :megalol:

To be fair, 13 bucks is 13 bucks. Might not be much for some, and it is a bargain price. But if you dont like it, its 13 bucks for nothing except first hand knowledge that you dont. While I am all for supporting and helping the sim developers, I also wont spend money or "support" ones I dont care for. At least I can say I tried before I say I dont like. Just like with RoF, and CLoD, I spent my money gave it a fair shot, and in the end, didnt like. I should not feel guilty for saying that, or not spending anymore $ on a game. I think make an informed opinion (i.e. someone actually played it) than you can praise and slam all you want. Put it this way, if a dev makes a good simulation that is also fun, Ill spend cash, and talk about how much I like. There are good sims and bad sims. You cannot lump them all together and raise the support flag. Anyway, just like the advice you gave people eariler "You won't convince the many people who enjoy this sim not to like it anymore that you will convince those that don't like it to like it. "

Because it isnt out, it is dead? Even though it was said it is being re-worked from the ground up, basically having to restart the project. Thats the thing about the internet, peoples "feelings" and "assumptions" come off as facts. That is a shame.

I am guessing you didnt read much on this project then.

The doomsday talk is little premature imo. It was a target of Sept we were told. They wont hit the Sept target due bug fixes, and new feature(s). We were also told. Why so upset?

This is pretty much how I feel right now. I want to like it, just for the pure "fun" aspect, but the controls are killing it for me right now.

Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt this quote mean it needs a new engine? """It will remain a donation project until we procure a new host 3D engine that can handle the terrain size needed for historical campaigns. The software architecture of our Apache will continue to remain as engine agnostic as possible. """ Doesnt this mean the environment is not permanent?

I did have issues for the first few days. I was all over the place in the KA-50. Once I set the force(s) I was comfortable with, I found it very precise and easy. After a while I didnt even remember its a force sensing stick. It is not like the motion of your hand is different. You are still moving the stick the same way and direction. Unless you look at your stick while flying to see how far the throw is from middle, its not really different. I use the defualt force setting at "2" 99% of the time. Flying the A10 I have switched to "1" for a landing a few times. After using a convential stick, to a FF stick, to a force sensing one, I prefer the force sensing. BUT...I will switch to the FF one for RoF and CLoD, just because the effects, especially in RoF feel cool on the FF. Again, the X65 is scary because that part, but I have not been more happy with a piece of flight sim gear ever.

I have been using the Saitek x65 for just over 1 month now. Came from using an x52, and then a Microsoft Force Feedback 2 with x52 throttle, and Saitek rudder pedals. I love the x65. I fly mostly the Black Shark....well 98% of the time. I will admit it took about a couple days to a week to get used to it. I also fly sround a little bit in the A10 as well as the Su-25. I also fly a little bit in Falcon BMS, RoF, and CLoD. Works great with all. The pros are: Metal construction. It is a solid kit. Just enough lights to look cool without being space aged. The calibration software is easy to use, and the new drivers had it calibrated nice right out of the box. The button layout (including roatary knobs) is very easy to access on the fly. The amount of buttons makes it easy to program everything you need plus extras. For instance, I have my own BS setup, made to mimic as close to the real Ka-50 as possible. Works great. I also have an A10 profile (not mine) that mimics the A10...pretty damn close to the Warthog hotas. The throttle's button bay attachment I thought was fluff. Its actually very awesome, and useful. Being able to change the force on the fly is great, and the extra 5 buttons it provides has been perfect for assigning weapon commands for the BS like Moving Ground TRGT, A/A, Auto Turn, HO A/A. One thing often overlooked...changable hat switchs. Never thought a little detail would be so awesome. Changing the hats (from say a castle hat switch to a bowel hat switch) is easy with a provided allen wrench and makes the unit a lot more comfortable to use. I fell in love with this feature. One unit. I like this because I was also looking at the G940 first, and knowing it was split into 3 devices, I can see how that would have been a pain. And the cons: Throttle is a pain to move at first. Stiff as hell. Takes a few days to break it in. Still stiffer than some like, personally I liked it after a weeks time. Saitek SST software. Easy to use yet confusing sometimes. Doesnt not always do what you want it to. For DCS, I always used in game assignments. I would hate to have to use SST software to program it for a game. Needing to use bolts, zip ties, or velcro to secure it. Since I use a little higher force sensing setting, I used the provided velcro to secure the stick, and zip ties (in place of bolts) to secure the throttle. I am using a playseat (from my old sim race days) and it isnt an issue if I ever want to bolt it down. Some might be more hesitant on a nice desk or something. All in all I was also looking at the Warthog, and G940. Was not even interested in the X65 until a fellow squad mate talked to me about it. Just like you I could not justify dropping the dough for a Warthog, and reading the issues with the G940 made the Saitek an easy choice. I would suggest pedals though, as the twist throttle on the stick would be hard to get used to, imo.

Just got done playing the demo, and its pretty weak. BUT....according to the xcom forum, the demo is so limited compared to the real game it has some folks pissed off. So, it looks like the hand holding demo is not how the game is. From the video gameplays, it looks totally different. So fear not.

Yeah, I heard the demo is crap, and you only have minutes worth of actually freedom. Most of it is scripted, and you have to do the tutorial. Oh well, not the best demo, but at least the game will be out soon.

Demo out on Steam. Going to DL it soon.

People are not really upset with this delay, right? I mean, I was looking forward to it, but not disgruntled over it taking more time to iron out the bugs. I am kind of glad they at least posted something about it. But....what new features I wonder....

Have had this happen a few times as well. Dont notice until, yeah, I am already in a very bad and odd position.

Totally serious...I know because his source is my cousins friends 3rd roomates brother who contacted the dead of a fortune teller, who said that.

I think that whole "out tomorrow, I feel it" has been done for the past week :)

I still stand by my impression, but since I already spent money on it, I will give it another go. But nothing compares to the feeling of BS. I still get excited starting that thing up. With the new HD cockpit it puts icing on the cake. I am with you.

I am with you there. As another Packer fan, I was totally shocked about that call. Then again so was every single player, commentator, writer, and commen sense type person. What really kills me is the fact Tate and Carroll deny the bad call. No class. At least say it was a bad call, but we won, then at least people would respect them. Instead going on and on about how awesome that catch was. Pitiful. Ok rant over, but glad I am not the only one shaking my head on this one. And back on topic....5 more days...come on.

Dont feel bad for me guys. :) And...yes Taco Bell is my one fast food dirty little secret. So bad, yet so good. Its an enigma. I am going to give it another go later. Not a great mood because of the Monday Night Football game, and probably will look at ToH different tomorrow. If nothing else to find Golden Tates house and crash my heli into it over and over, until he tells the truth. That was just my first impression. Any help getting a decent control setup for an x65 would help too! And those missions sond cool tank. Will have a go at that as well.

First impressions...dont like. You can be doing barrel rolls in a chopper in a nose dive, hit auto hover and all is ok. TrackIR is real funky in this, its like it isnt using it, just using it to move mouse look around. Setting up my X-65 for this is cluncky as hell. Have to mess with the controls still since you get in a free flight and it just spins non-stop to the right. I know it isnt a sim, but geez, it reminds me exactally of ArmA aircraft. While ArmA is great for a solider sim, its very weak in aircraft. I dont see a difference between this, and ArmA, except for the Seattle map. Will give it another shot sometime, but sadly, I feel my 13 bucks would have been better spent on Taco Bell as of right now.