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With Driver4VR you can use PSMoveService or Kinect for positional tracking so 6DoF is doable in same way like Freetrack standard for TrackIR.

Look, major question was how this inside out tracking is working and according some other WMR already released there is no different in practice use from Rift maybe just slightly better is Vive but it come with price. Everithing else is better then the competition in other WMR. Only backdrown is still no support for SteamVR so I'm afraid we will be wait little more on this review. Cheers m8, good luck with it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you to enjoy your DCS soon as possible. :pilotfly:

Best review of Pimax8K so far. Answer on lot of questions even we need now answers on some specific details for DCS to see how you can be competitive in MP against monitor user. I'm not interested to use VR just for SP missions.

It is worth it just for 200° FOV and no SDE everything else is the bonus.

I was more referring on Ru Wang, this part of project cars is interesting and could give us DCS players more than whole Ru Wang interview. For the first proper videos I think we have to wait January after first 8K get in backers hands.

This is not good for our DCS comunity. She is Pimax marketing and her technical knowledge is limited. Her maximum is Fruit Ninja and this is not of any usage or details we need. Fruit Ninja is made for mobile phone VR and looking good even on 1920x1080 ress with high SDE. We need more detailed videos which represent some technical details we need in DCS VR playing.

There will be also possibility to have inside out tracking like in Windows MR.

I got smelly modul for free. Just need to eat lot of beans.

All is going good. Basically all this information I was get true different sources but if you are tracking progress of 8K developing all this informations was available. But this is good and Pimax should do the list of the features with time line similar as ED doing for DCS modules. This is must have to prevent lot of wrong information based on partially taken information and more on wrong assumption. This is the only proper way such trolling.

This is not Samsung but from Samsung we could expect even to be better but for some preview this review of Lenovo eyplorer W MR is good.

Two days ago in Amsterdam.

I'm not basing about Rift. I was just desapointed with Oculus policy after Facebook take over. They promice consumer version for 400$ but Zuckerberg double it what was stabing in the back. Second they close it and breaking general progres of VR. That is why I felt betrayed as potential customer. Everything I was write on this forum and predicting about Rift today is fact and happened 90% as I was writw will be. Not talking about Pimax which I don't favoring but just traying to tell the true that VR is not starting and end up with CV1 only. HTC Vive is playing much more positive roll in VR world. Right now in this moment if I'm buying VR will probably buy CV1 because of best value for $ not Pimax4K. But Pimax 4K prove some issues like for example that SDE could be eliminated and could have better PPD for less money. Why RIP CV1? That is fact too. For first generation VR rift is now best buy option. It is not perfect and have its own good and bad sides just like Pimax 4K and which one you will buy is depend exclusively on subjective personal impression of the potential buyer. But this realistic pricing coming too late and they didn't do nothing for progress of VR even they have great budget and they control major part of the gamer's VR market. This is prow that Oculus after Facebook takeower is nothing else than just another greedy company which goal is only quick earn on short terms. This price come too late because second generation is around corner and Pimax shoving they learn from 4K model and eliminated every advantage of CV1 and gain much much more to VR world. And yes this is based on tech specs and third part reviews and not on my personal believe or impression like it should be that people can get some answers. 8K is completely new experience and in my opinion I'm willing to pay for it offering the future exactly where Rift fail to implement existing technologies which was present even from DK2 days and oculus failed to implement it. CV1 was little bit outdated even from beginning and after 8K release will be in rang of basic VR no worth of mentioned. One other fact is they continuing to convince us that we are not ready for eye tracking or SLI in VR.

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Concern about hardware resources? There is no need to question and compare it with CV1. CV1 is well known as hardware eater and higly depend on super sampeling because of his inferiority in pixel density. Here is video of Pimax 4K on old i/ on 2.8GHz and GTX 1050 with 2GB VRAM. CV1 cant imagine to run it on this rig.

to summarize, CV1 vs 8k there is no one single issue where CV1 have some sort of advantage. Pimax 8K is more or less better in any single aspect so how someone say it is not better? CV1 don't have support for SLI/CF VR, 8K will have. Also CV1 don't have eye tracking support 8K will have. 8K will also have handtracking modul so another plus for 8K. I hate when people trying to convince others in some issues based on fact they did'n even read nothing about tech specs but trolling a lot.

That is when you don't read full review and take it out of context just what you want to see. This model on testing tour is based on 4K old display with some tweaks and purpose is just to prove concept and even now only for full elimination of SDE and 200° FOV worth it. Pimax 8K is CV1 grave digger like it or not. RIP Major advantage of the Rift over Pimax4K was fact that Pimax have to full DCS it is Rift and problems what this bring. Thet is why I say it is remind me on Freetrack protocol implementation in DCS when trackIR lost monopol on headtracking what bring revolution in DCS.

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Just to get clue in possible SDE on 5K sheck this video. Deepoon E3 using similar display as 5K. Pleas read description on youtube video. This is not what you will see in any of this VR but it is filmed under exact the same condition and represend fully acurate diference in SDE. Pleas don't coment this is not what I see true CV1 I know that and confirming. Point is 5K should have less noticable SDE than CV1 but still noticable 8K don't have problem with SDE at all.

About question about 5K qnd 8K models I could tel you that. There is Pimax4K and Pimax4KBe which using that 2560x1440 on 530PPI OLED display. Priceis even slightly higher than 4K because OLED display. What do you prefere is very subjective question. OLED display have 530PPI vs 807 PPI on 4K LCD display. Some people hate SDE so they don't like it other can live with small SDE and have more vivid picture and that is individual subjective issue depend on user. Same diference can apply to 5K and 8K. 8K is more gaming oriented and 5K on VR presentation where slight SDE don't play major role. If you are consern about GPU resources you will be able to play it on lower ress but 8K will eliminate you SDE so from GPU and CPR resources will be the same. So DCS you want 8K anyway at least to eliminate SDE because SDE is VR only issue and it is same for all user no matter what GPU they use.. Yea at Pimax accept to do some deep comparation video of 5K and 8K vs Pimax 4K and 4KBe to see the diference because there will be some other features as well like smaller lens magnification what is also means smaller mgnification of subpixels what also lead to smaler SDE. That is why 5K should have smaller SDE than 4KBe on exact the same display.

Great news and that remind me in time when ED implement freetrack protocol for headmovemant. Major benefit will get VR pilots. No much difference than CV1 in resources because pimax higher pixel density will be less need for super sampling so this difference will used directly in resolution. Today is represent latest Version 3 prototype, major news now is Display port and manual IPD adjustment what showing progress going good.

One of the rear videos which is focusing on major issues and details for VR optimisation. Great video and many thanks.

Do you know at all how display work at all? I just wonder when you will join to troll.

Pimax definitely have better SDE or better say no noticable SDE at all compared to Rift. But in other aspect Rift is better. Point is VR is individually based subjective experience so don't listen whot other say and try to keep some tech specs. Rift got 430 PPI and Pimax got 807 PPI. PPI is most responsible for SDE so that is fact. Also Pimax got better PPD what is significant better pixel density. Rift got better refresh rate 90Hz vs Pimax 60Hz but in DCS that is not playing segnificant role you will be happy if you reach 40 FPS in game. Slight ghosting is connected with faster games what DCS is not so this is not major problem in DCS. Major advantage for Rift now is price tracking and controllers. Rift you can get for 400$ with tracking and touch controllers in bundle so it is out of the box solution for dissent price. Pimax don't have controllers or positional tracking by default but you have third part solutions based on PS move controllers or kineckt. Pimax you can get for 300$ plus some software and hardware for tracking and controllers so basic price with all solution can end up in the end around 350 - 400$ as well. My advice for you to wait to see how Samsung will perform now when will be released and maybe even wait next year for Pimax8K. Trust me that is the one you want and worth to wait for.

Yes right but to be in 3D space not just lsft/right up/down like it is now. And to stay in position not following head movement.

It is not just the hands. Point is there is no 3D 6DoF interaction inside cockpit. Only 6DoF is head movemant but mouse cursor is 2D and it is in conflict with 3D cockpit. That is the major issue now especially for VR immersion. What is the point of interactive cockpit if it is not done right way? That way it is useless.