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This is the Eflite UMX P-47. It's about the smallest P-47 on the market. It's pretty detailed for a small plane. The gear don't retract, but are removable. I'd also suggest the other Eflite P-47.... I think it's got a wingspan of 42 or 44 inches... Can't remember off the top of my head. It's considered a "park flyer" sized plane. It comes with flaps and retracts... Though the tail wheel doesn't. It's flight characteristics more than make up for that though... It's probably the best flying P-47 on the market... It flys like its on rails. I can point it in a specific direction, take my thumbs off the sticks and it flies straight and true. I modded mine to have a retractable tail wheel and a bigger engine... But I crashed it and I'm in the process of rebuilding it... Don't show boat when your only a couple feet off the ground!!! Lol!

Getting my P-47 fix while I wait for DCS!

I like the first few seconds of the first clip.... Where the wingman is following his lead down and around. It really shows off how fast and maneuverable the P-47 was!

I feel the same way.... At least give us a bone.... Drop a couple screenshots or something!!!

Anyone know where to find blueprints/measurements/etc for cockpit deminsions? I'm thinking about building a P-47 pit for the upcoming module.

Can't wait till DCS is Finnish with this module and a release date is announced!

Video worked for me! Pretty interesting!

DCS is going to have its hands full regarding damage modeling! Can you imagine all the guys saying "look at this pic with half the wing missing," or "read this account where the cylinder was shot off." There will be a lot of people getting shot down and believing they should have made it home! Just look at how they gripe about the P-51! (Though I admit the prop pitch seems a little out of hand!)

To bad they started with 1944 airplanes.... I'd rather start with 1942 planes.... And each new plane variant get faster, more maneuverable, all around better.... It's going to be harder... Flying older planes with people flying around in their much practiced 1944 planes... But I suppose that's the challenge!

^ found the info I was looking for!!! On Pinterest though... Anyways maybe it's legit: During an attack at low altitude, Raymundo da Costa Canário, flying 1st Brazilian Fighter Squadron P-47D #44-19663 , collided with an industry chimney which fell down. In the collision the P-47 lost 1.28m (50.394") of the right wing, but that loss of a part of the wing did not hinder it coming back to the base. *edit: found more of the story* 1st Brazilian Fighter Squadron - Red Flight P-47D-25 "A6" Flown by Asp. Canario returned from a missions almost without one wing! "In 01/27/1945 the Red flight (aircraft code: "A") took off for one more sortie, with the 1º Ten. Av. Dornelles as leader of the formation, and one young pilot called Raymundo da Costa Canario, flying the P-47D #44-19663 (the "A6" aircraft). Canario was originally pilot of the Yellow flight. During an attack at low altitude, Canario collided with an industry chimney which fell down. In the collision the P-47 lost 1.28m (50.394") of the right wing, but that loss of a part of the wing did not hinder it coming back to the base. Dornelles was his guide, opting to fly over the Adriatic Sea: over the land there was much Germany flak and low and dense clouds. Over Veneza some Spitfires had almost knocked them down therefore they had not recognized them immediately as allied pilots. After this "small" incident , Dornelles flew with Canario until 5000 ft, keeping silence on the radio. The low and dense clouds made it difficult for a visual approach; when Dornelles found a hole in the clouds he told Canario: "wait for me here. I will to go down to have a look and and I will come back to to tell you if this airstrip is OK!" Well, at age of 20, Canario ignored the acknowledgment and flew right back with Dornelles. A few moments before Canario to land he heard on the radio: "abort! abort! A P-61 Blackwidow needed to make an emergency landing!". Canario pulled up the P-47, made another final approach and landed safely. Dornelles flew 89 missions (he used to say "I'll never became 90 missions) - he died in 04/26/1945, flying his P-47. Canario flew 51 missions. He survived the war."

Anyone know the full story behind this photo? Heard the pilot rammed a house....

Here's my thread on why I think the Corsair would make a good addition to DCS: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=126769

I believe they attached a cable to the mooring points in the Main Landing Gear in a way that it would fall away once catapulted. You can see the cable in this shot:

Good read: http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eatdouble/%7E318thFighterGroup.Saipan.html

If your talking about the very last pic of the P-47 broken in half.... The pilot had just landed when the 500lb bomb oh his centerline shackle came loose and exploded beneath him. I'm pretty sure the pilot survived. A testament to how rugged the P-47 was!

I'd like some sort of single player option to up the boost... Just to see the difference in factory vs. field modded P-47's. It'd be interesting.

Wonder how accurate the sound and performance will be on the P-47 if most that fly today don't have working turbochargers or WEP systems?

I follow a thread on rcgroups about Eflite's new RC P-47 that's coming out in a month or so... There was an interesting discussion about how fast a radio controlled warbird should fly to be considered "scale." One group wants a plane that does nice ovals in the sky, with an occasional loop and roll.... While the other group wants bigger electric motors and bigger batteries for near-unlimited vertical climbs and blazing speed. Kind of reminds me of the octane discussions here.... It made me realize that sometimes you forget that a warbird at an airshow is a relic, and flown much "safer" than it used to fly. I wish I could have seen them in their prime! Anyways... There were two posts that I really liked... So I want to share them here.... Mind you.... The facts may be slightly off... May be biased... Etc... But I like the enthusiasm and they're written well. ---- post 1 ---- I typically fly my fighters scale, too. But I'm talking about how they were flown in combat on extremely high-octane fuel, hopped-up & tweaked by their crew-chiefs. NOT how they're usually flown at airshows today - as frail antiques with hard-to-get, extremely expensive replacement parts for their engines. I prefer to fly them like they were flown by combat pilots, who pushed them far-beyond "factory spec" in order to survive. Take the Jug, for example. None of the Jugs that are still flying today even have an intact WEP system. Many of them don't even have a functioning turbocharger anymore. In combat, it was not uncommon for crew-chiefs of late-model Jugs with the paddle-blade prop to crank the turbos up to a staggering 60 pounds of boost at WEP. That's 3,800 HP. At 3,800 HP, a Jug could hit 500 MPH TAS in level flight without even breathing hard. Using the compressibility flaps to pull out of a near-transonic dive, it could zoom-climb nearly straight up for ~20,000 feet! The last time I saw a Jug make a real balls-to-the-wall pass at full WEP with the turbo screaming like a banshee was back in the 1980s. It came in from a high-speed dive & pulled out at nearly 550 MPH down-on-the-deck. It streaked by, with the insane screech of a turbocharger the size of a coffee-table spooled-up to 20,000+ RPM following hundreds of feet behind. The turbo sounded just like a jet engine, and was nearly as loud! The prop literally tore the air apart with a metallic ripping sound as it went supersonic at the tips, with the unmuffled R-2800 @ war-emergency-power bellowing so loudly that it shook me right to the core. The shock-waves from the prop-blades combined with the R-2800's open exhaust literally pounded my chest - similar to how a Top Fuel dragster pounds your chest during a run (albeit not quite to that extent). That's how I like to fly my fighters. Joel ---- post 2 ---- Thanks, guys. I remember how these birds used to be flown at airshows 3-4 decades ago, before the parts became so scarce that nobody dares to fly them balls-to-the-wall anymore. So it makes makes me sad when I hear people talking about "flying scale" like WWII fighters are typically flown at airshows today. That is NOT scale flying for the world's best air-superiority fighters! They were the Ferraris of the sky! Putting along at 300 MPH & maybe gingerly performing a slow roll or conservative loop is about as "scale" for a WWII fighter as driving 50 MPH in rush-hour is "scale" for an F1 car. And having a dad who flew 'em in combat, and having the honor of meeting his squadron-mates at a Devilhawks reunion back when they were still young enough to remember the details of their missions gave me a completely different level of respect for what those guys went through, and also for the Jug. Sure, the Jug has always been my favorite. After all, my dad flew 'em in combat. But when I heard every single pilot at the reunion say that the Jug is the reason they made it home, I had much more reason to be in awe of the plane & those who designed it. My dad's FG flew exclusively CAS in Brenner Pass, which was known as flak alley because the stuff came up at you, down at you, and also in at you from the sides. They pulled so many Gs coming out of their power-dives with the compressibility flaps that they routinely blacked-out for a few seconds. See the pic below for an example of the terrain over which they flew every day. The life-expectancy of pilots who weren't flying Jugs was measured in weeks. To a man, they all believed that they would not have made it home if they would've been flying any other fighter. Some of 'em also flew air-to-air combat with other fighter-groups before they were assigned to the 350th FG. Most of those guys had also flown P-51s and/or P-38s, and a few had even flown Spitfires. Again - to a man, every one of them said that if they had to do it again, they'd rather fly the Jug in air-to-air combat than any other fighter. And they weren't just being sentimental, either. They all said the same thing: Without question, they'd take the Jug's superior firepower, unmatched ruggedness, and superior speed over the tighter turn radius of the P-51, Spitfire, and other more nimble fighters because they could compensate for the Jug's poorer turn-fight performance with tactics. They told me that no amount of tactics could compensate for a lack of ruggedness or firepower. They learned energy-management techniques which allowed them to gain an advantage over anything the Luftwaffe could throw at them. With the paddle-blade prop, they could easily out-climb the Bf 109s & FW 190s. They could also out-turn the German fighters above 18,000 feet. And they knew that they could always break off the fight by hitting WEP & dropping the nose. Absolutely nothing in the war could catch a Jug in a power-dive. Not even an Me 262. And that's without cranking-up the boost. When the crew-chiefs cranked up the boost, the plane became all but invincible in the hands of a skilled pilot. They said the same thing that my dad had told me when was a little kid - hitting hitting the water-injection & pushing the throttle past the stop to full war-emergency-power shoved them into the seat so hard that they felt like they'd been kicked in the ass by a freight-train. Joel

Interesting clip I watched on YouTube.... Don't kill me... I know it's War Thunder.... But some of the things the narrator says about the P-47 are the exact same things we'll soon be seeing in the DCS: P-47 sim.... Most people will fly it wrong... Stay high... Boom and zoom... etc. http://youtu.be/ciWFtqBlBpA It's worth a watch if your a Jug fan!

Wish we could get a WIP screenshot up in here!

Why I think the Pacific would be a good choice: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=126769

I still consider the P-47 to be the greatest dog-fighter. Simply because it was deployed earlier in the war, when the Luftwaffe still had well trained pilots, intact factories producing superior fighters, and good quality gas. The P-47 fought and won against the best of the best. After the P-47 crippled the Luftwaffe, it let the P-51 take over against younger, newly trained pilots, airplanes built by un-trustworthy slave labor, and fuel shortages.

Um.... I hate math... And I couldn't care less about all this Spitfire vs. Thunderbolt stuff... But I notice you guys keep mentioning P-47D.... As if it's one definitive model. You guys realize that there are dozens of different "D" models, right? P-47D-1 through... P-47D-23... I believe... Were all "razorback" models. Onwards up to the P-47D-40 were "bubbletop" models. When you are making comparisons remember that a P-47D-1 is vastly different than a P-47D-40. The plane being modeled by DCS is the P-47D-30.

A Grumman Duck would be cool! Imagine P-51's vs FW-190's over the English Channel.... As pilots get shot down Grumman Ducks would rush out to save the downed pilots!

Yeah... Must have been an add-on mic/headset that they were using. There are a couple apps for the iPhone that have a pretty convincing "blow into microphone" effect too. The hyperventilating/passing out would be part of the immersion! You might have one or two good hard turns that you could fight off with breathing techniques... But you'd have to time them right... After you start getting dizzy you would be forced to take it easy on some of the other turns.