Nightstalker

I agree. I was somewhat skeptical on how much of a difference there would be but this looks absolutely fantastic and runs smooth as butter. Hats off Ugra!

Me too. Did you complete your purchase?

I really wish ED would stop using the word "imminent" in their news letters when they don't really mean imminent. The last time we heard imminent was for the F15 before Christmas and look how long we are actually waiting.

I ended up deciding on the 4080 over the 4090 due to 2k only and no VR. I’m glad for myself that I saved the money for other things. My FPS has skyrocketed between the 4080 and the MT patch, hitting 175 or more fps at times and rarely dropping below 95 around AI. I think I’m set for awhile.

Well, I have to say bravo! I started off by hopping in the AH64 instant action mission in Syria hot on the ramp. This is usually very punishing as there is a plane on fire right near the ramp. I now was sitting at about 98fps with no affect from the fire...lol. I also ran the DCS World Tomcat Torture Test mission. When you would fly past the explosions the fps would drop down into the 40's and now it dropped to a low of 95. I wouldn't even notice a drop. What a difference! My system is an i913900k, z750e, 32g DDR5, Panasonic 980 Pro SSD and a 4080. I've notice a longer loading time for some missions though. Bring on the F15.

I don't have any immediate intention of getting into VR (never say never) but I am considering getting an ultrawide 2k monitor. I'm hesitant to go 4k because I don't want to start chasing FPS again. I almost went for the 4070ti, as it is gives the same performance as a 3090ti in 2k and it might give me enough breathing room for an ultrawide. My constant hang up is, buy the 4090 and be done with it along with future proofing for ultrawide or VR, or buy a 4070ti for half the price and be more ok with changing it again in 2 yrs for a 5070ti? The 4080 seems like the ugly step sister nobody really wants. I'm fortunate to be able to afford the 4090 but that doesn't mean I'm not wasting money with massive overkill for almost all games when playing in 2k. If the 4090 doesn't improve my overall FPS in DCS and MSFS in 2k I may just be throwing money away.

I upgraded my old system in January form an Intel i7 9700k, 32g DDR4 and a 2080ti to an i9 13900k, 32g DDR 5 and kept my 2080ti in hopes that card prices would settle. As of now, I'm not sure I'm going to upgrade the 2080ti anytime soon. The biggest difference I have ever seen to my performance came for that new 13th gen chip. The problem with buying a new 4080 or 4090 which was my plan is that I'm seeing very little difference in performance in benchmarks I'm watching of those cards over my 2080ti in flight sims. I'm running the sim in 2k with SMAA with all the candy turned on and it runs smooth as butter. I've now tested my present system using the torture test mission available for DCS and I'm seeing very similar frame rates to the videos testing 40 series cards if not better in some cases due to the fact I'm running the new chip and they are not. They have a 4080 or 4090 and I have a 2080ti but my 13th gen chip is doing almost all of the work. I recently watched a benchmark video which compared the 2080ti vs 3080ti vs 4080 vs 4090. The test showed MSFS 2020 (also CPU limited) in 2k Ultra settings. The AVERAGE FPS was surprisingly as follows: RTX 4090 - 53, RTX 4080 - 53, RTX - 3080ti - 52 and finally RTX 2080ti - 50. There is virtually no difference in performance between all of these cards due to the sims being CPU bound. This is an obvious issue that ED is trying to fix with the core updates. From what I've seen though DLSS 2 is going to do next to nothing. DLSS 3 is where the performance gains are and they are the reason to have a 40 series card. I would spend more time thinking about the chip decision over the card decision right now. I've seen tests where the present 3d chips are definitely bottlenecking the 40 series cards. It has been startling seeing how little difference the new cards make for sims other than power draw. They do wonders for everything else but if I'm only going to gain 3fps for a 2 thousand dollar investment in sim games I have to take a pause.

Hey blewis, I don't know if you have done your upgrade yet but I will give you my experience as of late. I upgraded my old system in January form an Intel i7 9700k, 32g DDR4 and a 2080ti to an i9 13900k, 32g DDR 5 and kept my 2080ti in hopes that card prices would settle. As of now, I'm not sure I'm going to upgrade the 2080ti anytime soon. The biggest difference I have ever seen to my performance came for that new 13th gen chip. The problem with buying a new 4080 or 4090 which was my plan is that I'm seeing very little difference in performance in benchmarks I'm watching of those cards over my 2080ti in flight sims. I'm running the sim in 2k with SMAA with all the candy turned on and it runs smooth as butter. I've now tested my present system using the torture test mission available for DCS and I'm seeing very similar frame rates to the videos testing 40 series cards if not better in some cases due to the fact I'm running the new chip and they are not. They have a 4080 or 4090 and I have a 2080ti but my 13th gen chip is doing almost all of the work. I recently watched a benchmark video which compared the 2080ti vs 3080ti vs 4080 vs 4090. The test showed MSFS 2020 (also CPU limited) in 2k Ultra settings. The AVERAGE FPS was surprisingly as follows: RTX 4090 - 53, RTX 4080 - 53, RTX - 3080ti - 52 and finally RTX 2080ti - 50. There is virtually no difference in performance between all of these cards due to the sims being CPU bound. This is an obvious issue that ED is trying to fix with the core updates. From what I've seen though DLSS 2 is going to do next to nothing. DLSS 3 is where the performance gains are and they are the reason to have a 40 series card. I would spend more time thinking about the chip decision over the card decision right now. I've seen tests where the present 3d chips are definitely bottlenecking the 40 series cards. I know this is not a very scientific explanation but I hope it helps. It has been startling seeing how little difference the new cards make for sims. They do wonders for everything else but if I'm only going to gain 3fps for a 2 thousand dollar investment in sim games I have to take a pause.

I'm having no issues with the sim other than when I launch the AH64 in that one instant action mission on the Syrian map. I have no issues flying other modules on the Syrian map and I have no issues flying the AH64 on other maps. It's only when the two are combined on that one mission that everything begins to lock up. I get a white screen when the mission first loads, then the white screen goes away and my FPS drops to 10fps and everything stutters, stutters, stutters. If I end the mission it will take minutes to log out and my whole system will be slow requiring a reboot. As I said, I can't recreate this is any other mission or with any other plane or helicopter. I have nothing in my mods folder and I've run repair. My video drivers are the latest one.

Here's the dcs.log. There doesn't seem to be an updated dxdiag report Here is the file. Thanks dxdiag.txt

Here's the dcs.log. There doesn't seem to be an updated dxdiag report dcs.log

Every time I try to do the instant action Hot Start on runway mission with the AH64 on the Syrian map the sim will go into spaz mode. The screen will go white and then the frame rate will drop to 10fps and everything will lockup. If I try to exit the sim it will lock up my whole system up for several minutes. I've removed all mods and I've run DCS repair along with removing all shaders from the two files FXO and Metashaders. 2080ti, 9700k, 32g ram, SSD and G-sync monitor.

After some testing, it seems that my performance problems are only happening on the Syria map. If I load up in any of the other maps the AH performs like my other modules but each time I return to a instant action mission in Syria everything goes to crap.

That was the first thing I did. It made no difference this time around.

I love the helicopter but unfortunately for me I'm getting really bad stutter and performance issues. My modules are typically running between 80 - 120 fps. In the AH64 I'm getting as low as 20. I'm not sure if the problem is with the module or with the update to the Syria map but if I load up an instant action mission in Syria the helicopter will stutter, stutter, stutter and be uncontrollable. I've removed all mods and liveries out of the folders and I've wiped all of the shaders. It makes no difference.

Didn't they say that it would release along with the new Syrian map expansion? Just because the Apache may be ready the map may not.

Any word on a Roadmap for 2022 like ED gave us last year? Sorry if I missed it somewhere.

If you are trying to fly the Hind with your settings not set to “SIM”, it won’t have any lift. Apparently the Hind does not have a simplistic flight model yet.

They need to get started then. The 4080’s are just around the corner.

Ha ha, you were correct Blackeye! My gameplay settings, not my individual settings had been switched to game mode. No wonder the Huey was so easy to fly lately. Thanks, now I feel stupid.

I didn't think there was a drop down for game mode. I have the collective and throttles setup on my Virpil Throttle. I have the throttle on the collective on max and I can see all of the gauges in the proper position but no lift...lol. It's pretty funny actually. I've never had this issue with any of my helicopter modules.

Can anyone tell me why I can't get my Hind off the ground? I own all of the heli's in DCS and I don't have anything setup different in the Hind module in regards to my HOTAS. I can watch my collective go up in game and on the gauge, throttles are set to full, brake is off but I just can't get off the ground. If I start in free fly I just crash to the ground. I'm obviously missing something simple here.

Great news!

Any word on a Hind manual potentially coming out?

Absolutely! I'm flying a heli in Vietnam right now in MSFS2020. It would be nuts in DCS!