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:D :megalol: Loved it! :D :thumbup:

And which did you get?

Ahem, stalling at 600kmh in level flight? :megalol: Also, if it's "this argument again" then obviously a lot more people disagree with you than they agree and there IS something seriously wrong with the current FM. Considering this, it will then be "this argument again" until it gets fixed.

Exactly! And contrary to Viggen, it's revolutionary and definitely unique... Harriers from Falkland war would disagree. :thumbup: Also, the 30 has the avionics and weapons to survive (if not kill the enemy) until the target is in dogfight range. And then it dominates. Imagine an F-15 trying to make a circle/loop/whatever where you can at leisure turn the nose far into his path and either let go a 73 or just guns. Or 15 trying to follow you into a loop/circle that you then abort at the top and do a quick spin to let him fly past you and you then using TV to immediately be on his six... From what I've been seeing on the forums there are many more people wanting to fly a modern Russian aircraft that would be able to hold it's own against the flood of super-duper-high-space-tech Western kit coming (Eurofighter, Tomcat, Hornet, Superhornet, Mirage F1, Mirage 2000...). Many people wanting a Russian plane = more money from sales. A niche plane/worse performer like Viggen= less money from sales. :beer: Though in the end LNS can disappoint us all and come out with something completely third! Completely relative. I've met people that impressed me by the simple fact they managed to stop at a red light, but that doesn't mean they were good drivers. :dunno:

Yeah, I'm currently running the game at 1600x900 and all settings at min or medium to get somewhat bearable framerates. Actually noticed performance drop with each new update over the course of this year, together with a strange increase of problems with lag on servers since this summer. I'm gathering money for CPU+mobo (and maybe RAM) upgrade (either i5 4670K or 4690K; if I get a good discount MAYBE i7 4770K; with a Z87 or Z97 mobo), so sadly can't upgrade the gfx card as well and even that upgrade will have me eating rat food and drinking sewer water for the next year. :(

To add something constructive to speculation. LNS said that one of the mystery planes will have ground radar, right? Correct me if wiki's wrong, but doesn't the Russian Bars (N011M) radar (in Su-30) have A-to-G capability? :D "In the air-to-surface mode the radar is capable of detecting ground and naval based moving targets, determining their location and maintaining a track on two surface targets at once.[1] The N011 is capable of detecting the group of tanks target to a maximum range of 40–50 km and a destroyer sized target to a range of 80–120 km.[1][4] Bars also features a mapping mode using either real beam, doppler beam sharpening or Synthetic aperture radar with a maximum resolution of 10 meters.[1] The Kh-31 anti-radiation missile is also compatible with the radar.[3]" Could this mean they're making a Su-30? :thumbup: Or even Su-34? :pilotfly: If they are I'm gonna love them forever! Lol, no worries, no-one's gonna flame anyone. :beer: I actually didn't think of using ECM because there was no other enemy group on the map, only these two TCs that were so far I didn't consider them a threat. I didn't see them on radar because they were too far, only knew they were there because of my AWACS (that they then shot down :cry: ). As said was at 1500m alt max and among foothills, both factors I mistakenly believed were enough. The biggest problem I see, next to the fact that they could see me on radar from that range and that his missile actually reached me, is that there was no frantic beeping from my RWR (it was turned on). Phoenix is a semi-active missile, right? Shouldn't it set off the RWR? Yeah, noticed it's flying awfully fast. Was actually holding my head in desperation. Gonna pull the Tomcats out of that mission, they're too much of a headache right now. Btw., is there any East SAM site capable of shooting down MISSILES, like Patriot does for the West side? I could make the AWACS and the tanker immortal, but where would be the fun in that... Thank you lord! :)

No offense, but he wasn't talking about graphic quality EDGE vs older releases. :beer: Agreed! I like those videos too! :D I don't think it's actually possible, personally I've never been able to go more than 12km high with FC3 planes. Can't remember which plane it was, but it could go only 500kmh (F2 view) with full afterburners at max alt and refused to go higher. T'was last year so I can't give any exact details. Especially the Su-27 behaves extremely badly at +10km and at times is almost uncontrollable (at 11km it floundered for a bit in level flight, yawing left and right like a ship without main mast on heavy seas, then suddenly suffered uncontrollable roll-and-dive -- similar to what can sometimes happen at low alt). Hopefully 1.5/2 will fix the 27's FM.

Is that F-15C that I see on the list the FC3 beta module or is a separate module of MiG-15 fidelity with clickable cockpit and so on?

Thanks for your reply, Murrey! :thumbup: Right now I'm running a Bulldozer clocked to 4 Ghz, 8GB 1333 mhz ram and HD 6770. 21 and 8 usually run at 20-22 FPS, 15 at 33-35 FPS. MiG-29S at 50 FPS (guess soon I will have to say goodbye to such nice fps :cry: ). Looking to get a new Intel cpu, mobo and possibly ram if I find a good enough deal.

I can guarantee a day one prepurchase as long as it's a modern Russian jet fighter with modern avionics, radar, missiles, etc. Or a MiG-31 with R-37M. - I namely got a taste of the future last night, what it will be like when Tomcat comes. Took off from Nalchik in 27 with buddy and managed to get to the foothills just south of Nalchik at 1500m alt. Enemy F-14's were about 20km north of Kutaisi at 10km alt. From there they sent us a spam of AIM-54. We never got a launch or lock message, suddenly we're just exploding and falling down in flaming balls. That's a distance of about 200km iirc. At roughly the same distance they also took down our AWACS and tanker that were far back in the "safe" zone, "protected" by SAMs. I don't really care for playing a game where I get killed by an enemy from 200km without even getting an opportunity to evade, much less shoot back.

We actually briefly touched that incident in my 20th Century Eastern Europe History class years back at Uni. There's more to it than what meets the eye. The backstory is that the US were using spy planes for quite a while before that masquerading as civilian airliners to spy on anything they could and everybody knew it. Of course it's easy to portray shooting down innocent civilians as "typical barbarism of a brutal/inhumane totalitarian regime", but the truth is never as clear-cut as that. Did the pilot know there were actual civilians in the plane? Or did he think there was a chance it was the crew of the intelligence-gathering equipment dressed in civilian clothes IF he could even see the people inside? Did the GCI know? Did the General who ordered the shooting down know with absolute certainty? Or was there enough doubt to think "the Americans are up to their usual tricks" and were exploiting protection given to them by using a civilian-looking airplane? Was there maybe something extremely top-secret taking place/being there right at that time in that area when suddenly an airplane appeared that could've been a spy plane? Btw., that's not the only case of an airliner falling prey to a military: a US Navy ship shot down an Iranian airliner (Iran Air Flight 655) in 1988, quoting: "in Iranian airspace, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight's usual flight path". The ship was knowingly violating Iranian waters at that moment. The US never apologies (to anyone, even the families of the victims) for the shoot-down, nor did it ever accept legal liability. There were no tribunals called for either of these incidents. IIRC, without going to check, it was over USSR territory. Spies are and have always been treated differently than openly military-units. Due to the nature of their work there is no quarter given to them and were usually executed after being interrogated. For example, during WWI on the Western Front it was enough someone was caught with rubber gloves for him to be summarily executed as a spy by the Germans (German Western defences had an electrical wire system as part of the protection). Some secret agencies tried to prevent that by giving their agents military ranks (British SOE) and even having them wear rank insignia on sabotage missions, but that usually didn't work. Opponent's order (on both sides) was almost always to execute after interrogation to get useful information. Unless there was a chance to recruit them as a double-agent (England-Spiel). And if they catch a foreign/hostile plane over their territory and it turns out it's a spy plane then very few countries would hesitate shooting it down if they had the capabilities and no-one would question their right to do so. Not only is such a plane violating sovereignity of that country's skies, but it's also spying. As said, spies are always treated differently. The proof of such spying by losing it's plane got the US into quite an uncomfortable diplomatic mess. To get back on topic: Totally agree! It would bring a new aspect to air engagements, as a MiG-25 would be able to engage and disengage at leisure, but still being hampered by obsolete systems and missiles. Almost boom-and-zoom. PLUS the MiG-25 isn't really a top-secret, is it? I mean the American and the Japanese had one for a few days and they took it apart (the Soviet engineers found American and Japanese electronics hacked onto the systems and the fuselage was full of holes), so it's technologies have been discovered decades ago. That's what spurned the development of the MiG-31 - move-on from technologies that were known to the West and get back advantage given by using secret tech. IIRC the entire Western scientific community was laughing because they found some obsolete technologies in the plane. It stopped laughing when they discovered those obsolete technologies allowed the 25 to operate after a nuclear strike and EMP blast while their own planes would've fallen out of the sky. If the Russians are not forthcoming with the documentation and specifications required to make a DCS level module, then the only thing ED has to do is file a FoIA request in the US for the reports IF they're not public-access area to being with... :D Thus there is no reason or even excuse not to make a 25. :D /case

Good news about the fixes! Sorry for not coming back earlier, but after my last post I managed to get the script run just as I want it and has thus replaced a much bigger mission for the combat flying with my buddy. There's a big difference between waiting time for him to join if my computer sends his a 100kb file at 50 kbs upload or 35mb file. ;-) Settings I'm using are Sometimes we get double-CAP spawns (Tomcats and Eagles, lol), but that just makes it a bit more interesting. :D Had to build up quite a protection zone for the AWACS though because some enemies DO get through occasionally and then it's bye-bye AWACS.

Out of curiosity, what are the specs of the computer that was used for the stream? At what FPS do MiG-21 and/or Mi-8 run on it? Was the map empty or were there AI traffic or maybe even other players on it? Was the starting airfield empty? These are just a few questions that I'm wondering about the circumstances in which the video was taken... trying to get an impression just what kind of improvements, if any, 1.5 will give to less powerful computers like mine. Also wondering whether the L-39 is better optimised than the MiG-21 and Mi-8. For example, flying in the MiG-15 I have much higher FPS on same map and same mission than in the 21 or 8, at least 50% more FPS if not 80%.

Thanks for the tip! :pilotfly: :thumbup: IIRC the R3R has a range of only 7km so if you let an enemy get that close to you without you noticing you've already done a fatal mistake and are dead anyway by the hands of any Russian plane flown by at least moderately capable pilot. That range is nearly in 73 launch range. Much closer and it's a guns dogfight where you'll get taken down by anything from 109 to a MiG-15. Whate are you flying? American or Russian? Are you trying to stick to the ground or rule the sky from above?

Nope, they are just called "retards". :P They don't have plane-to-plane datalink yet, we are still waiting for that. Don't forget 80's avionics, radars, missiles... Looking at large-scale battles and statistics on Situational Awareness the F-15 is the clearly dominant plane in air-to-air and AMRAAM vastly outperforms anything Russians field. Example: "Out of the 25 aerial kills, none was by an R-27ER missile, 4 by R-27ET, 1 by R-73, 2 by cannon and 18 by AIM-120." http://sa-sim.com/rf1-battlefacts-th...reign-supreme/ True, but I can't help but wonder how long to wait for the PFM. And whether it will be a mess to fly like the Su-27 after it received it. And whether it will get it's RL maneuverability (irl 29 manuevers better than 27 and 15, quite the opposite in the game). Quite honestly I would be more grateful if we would be suddenly surprised with the K version as replacement for S for the FC3. At least something to give us a chance against the upcoming Eurofighter, Mirages, Tomcat, Hornet, Super Hornet, etc. As nicely made as they are and as much as I enjoy flying them, sadly the MiG-15 and 21 just don't cut it.

+1 Worst case scenario it would server as an excuse for that other side to start an all-out war, best case scenario a diplomatic mess that would take a lot of time, effort and money to resolve. Unless of course that other plane was shot down violating sovereign airspace and refusing to land or go away, that is (U-2 for example, that was a big mess for Americans, not the Soviets).

Flying air combat over the last week with a friend extensively we noticed something peculiar about the ET. Too many times it fails to lock, even with LA given in IRST, range much lower than launch range for maneuvering target and circumstances being optimal if not outright perfect. That entails shooting at a unaware target from it's 5-7 o'clock at 8-12km range. The LA is given and missile is fired, but then it simply flies forward ignoring the target, even if no countermeasures were deployed and even with the target being quite close and on 12 o'clock of the plane launching it. The lock probability is right now about 50% for me - and I'm not talking about missile going off because of countermeasures. Also, the 73 is quite prone to being duped by flares. Can happen that I use up all of my IR rockets on a single AI target even though I have superior position. Then I either have to use cannon or the radar missiles. Ironically the ER (and 77) has been more lock-and-hit reliable in dogfight this last week than the IRs.

That's a sad situation for a Russian-made game and developer, isn't it? :cry:

Um, the announced DCS 2 performance improvements? :dunno:

Is the 33's model getting redone or something? Cause the 27's template has been out for quite a while.

I've been using this in conjunction with my T.16000M and I have to say that I'm more satisfied with this Saitek's build quality than the Thrustmaster's. It's lot more solid and it's parts definitely didn't start wobbling after just a week! It's got 3 levers you can program any way you want (in DCS I use them for separate engine management, while using throttle on joystick itself for radar range, elevation and mfd range; in IL-2 I use the levers for throttle, flaps, prop pitch). The best thing is you can combine it with more of them, creating almost limitless possibilities, like this: Limited only with the space on your desk and the number of USB ports you have. You also get additional lever "caps", so if you want they are either all black and rounded, or red or blue. Each quadrant comes with 3 levers with a LOT of up-down (compared to only 3cm on 16000) and 6 buttons that give a lot of different options in DCS. I have one button always mapped to push to talk for TS, another for wheel-brakes and another for gear, so I don't need to take my hand off it. Was not even that expensive, only 45 EUR locally (the only computer stuff I've seen in my country that's cheaper than in the rest of Europe - usually our prices are 20% higher - and paychecks only 1/3 of our neighbors'). You don't need the most expensive stick, the most expensive throttle and the most expensive rudders to be a good pilot! Don't waste money on gear, rather spend time on improving yourself. The best pilot I ever saw (and that was in IL-2 Cliffs of Dover patched with TF patches - where you fly propeller planes, close dogfight and careful engine management) was a guy using an ancient Logitech 3D Extreme without any pedals or separate throttle. I'm not sure he was even using TrackIR/Freetrack. Yet he dominated without competition everyone else, even those with the most expensive setups, that spent over 1000 eur on sticks, rudders and pedals only...

Soonest: release of 1.5. Release of 1.5? Rather not ask. :smilewink:

You planning on getting some impressionable Russian girl in the chopper and take her to heaven and back or how would you fog up your windows? ;-) :D

Thanks for all the replies, guys! Tested the TWS2 with a friend, it gives lock and launch warnings, sadly. Should it be like that (F-15 doesn't iirc)? If not, will it get fixed? Also, any idea on the tracking fixes for ER and speed drop fix for 77?

Yes, and instead of that getting fixed, it's the AIM-9 getting more powerful because apparently the AMRAAM is not enough. :( Thanks for your response! I consider this matter more a matter of personal taste, so more emotional, rather than rational. For me only Eastern birds touch that part of my heart, Western very little if not at all... maybe because of my background, dunno. That's why I don't really find any motivation or desire to switch, especially to planes that keep shooting me down aka the "other" ("dark"? :D ) side. Where I come from we have a phrase about ETAs like that. It will be here on the Day of Saint Never. :D I honestly don't think we'll be getting any modern Russian bird. Nothing has been announced for the next two years at least. While I do adore the 15 and 21, the versions we got are hopelessly obsolete (we could've gotten the 93 or the 97 versions of the 21 instead, but they gave us the iirc 1972 version). If I'm proven wrong nobody will be more happy than I. Thanks for your response!