StandingCow

Higher resolutions actually negatively impact your ability to see targets... I am really hoping ED look into scaling a bit better. In my vive I can see things very far away, on my 1080P monitor... I can't see crap.

We don't know until both the windows and intel patches come out and there are benchmarks.

As someone else said... as long as you aren't pretending you are military when you are not... it's fine.

A look at the impact on windows: The full fix will also rely on firmware updates from Intel, so that may change things.

It isn't out yet.. and probably won't be until Q2 or later... but I am waiting on the ROG Swift PG35VQ.

There are two separate vulnerabilities. Meltdown: This is the major one that will require a fix in the OS causing the slowdown. This impacts Intel at this time, it is still unclear if it impacts ARM and AMD processors. Spectre: This impacts all modern procesors Intel, AMD, ARM. Source: https://spectreattack.com/ So far it doesn't look like this directly impacts gaming performance: https://www.computerbase.de/2018-01/intel-cpu-pti-sicherheitsluecke/#update2 . That doesn't mean it won't impact the multiplayer side of things since network activity makes syscalls. It will also impact development time for companies... let alone all the cloud based servers and services that will be impacted, companies like Amazon with their AWS (which TONS of companies use), etc.

I read arm was impacted as well?

Intel statement: https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-responds-to-security-research-findings/

I don't wanna quote who I asked since he hasn't given me permission yet but the speculation on DCS impact is there shouldn't be much: He said, "Generally games are very firmly rooted on the user side, and the amount of syscalls DCS makes should be relatively low (in comparison to something like compiling)." and "Generally I think DCS doesn't do much I/O streaming for example, which I understand to be one of the biggest issues with this in the context of games. Again, wait and see approach is all we can do unfortunately. :(" So... HOPEFULLY we aren't hit too hard by this at least on the gaming side of things. But the devs that create the modules we love to fly are going to be impacted due to compiling times. And who knows once we get dedicated servers...

If going AMD/Ryzen wait for their next chip which rumors suggest will be by the end of Q1 this year... so really I suggest everyone just wait and see what happens with this leak. Gaming is still a huge unknown since the only benchmark out there uses Linux with an AMD GPU.... this flaw is supposed to really impact Windows/DirectX since it uses way more CPU calls than Linux/Vulkan type systems. But due to the NDA the next few days details are... unclear. The AMD patch is a "just in case" scenario and from what I understand can either be undone or is going to be optional... again it remains to be seen. As I said above though, those of us that are Windows PC gamers should take the linux game tests with a huge grain of salt since it doesn't make near as many CPU calls as DirectX does. Does anyone have any idea how "heavy" DCS is in comparison to other games with syscalls?

I thought the Vintage throttle was real... :(

Same here... it's like when you see a cool game for sale on steam and go to buy it... only to find out you already own it. Happened to me a few times.

Much is unknown at this time... in fact most of it is under NDA for a few more days. All the benchmarks I have seen are in Linux which if I am correct uses Vulkan API which doesn't make near as many calls to the CPU as Direct X (I might be wrong here with it using Vulkan). So even those may not reflect the performance in windows. I am curious if DCS causes more CPU calls than other games out there? Should be an interesting next few weeks.

So, before I start this is all a pretty new thing and I am not yet sure if it is going to impact us DCS players.... it seems, so far, that gamers aren't going to be directly impacted but the benchmarks and information is limited since it is so early (talk of performance hits range from 5-35%). It seems the more a program makes "system calls" the more the potential impact could be. Story (summary below link): https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/ Benchmark links (pre and post patch in linux which SHOULD be the same as in Windows): https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-415-x86pti&num=2 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=x86-PTI-Initial-Gaming-Tests This impacts all systems, Windows/Apple/Linux/etc.

Oh damn.... I am loving the front of the twin modern controller... and that Vintage one is a work of art.

I thought so actually... been a while since I have flown her though since the Harrier came out.

I wouldn't suggest that it isn't possible, it is very possible. Now whether or not ED does it is another thing entirely. The A-10 does still get updates, the sound of the gun (overall sound actually) was recently improved.

Happy New Year everybody.

Wow... I am really liking this. And only 200 bucks (possibly?), I thought it would be much more. Any chance of an image of the front of the throttle?

Mine says the same and my CC was charged, I emailed VKB and they said everything looks normal. It's a weird message. My last order with them had a tracking number so I suspect it hasn't shipped yet and will after new year as they originally said.... instead of the earlier ship dates they mentioned last week. Oh well. It should be here eventually.

I am actually happy about the delay, I was really doubting they would make their January estimate. If given the option I will decide to wait for the final product.

Happy birthday! Enjoy your holidays!

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :pilotfly:

Ummm, he actually answered and explained it very well, I was curious about this as well. Not sure why you are acting like he insulted you.

Well, value is something only you can decide. There will be a slight difference depending on if you overclock (don't worry about factory overclocks, you can do that yourself) and how good your case cooling is. The 1080TI reference runs pretty hot so with a reference cooler, while you may be running within tolerance it could potentially throttle a little bit to keep it's temps within where it wants to, you can change some settings in EVGA precision (see here: ) to prevent that... but it will be LOUD. So, unless you want to throw a hybrid cooler on it, again... I suggest an aftermarket card, but you will be happy either way. :)