Barefoot Bandit

We still get an early bird discount if we order (in the right time window) the mini stick version though, right? :joystick: Z...

It's not so much a "need", as a "want". Int he same sort of way as I didn't need a 1080Ti... Z...

Not denying it works, but, as I say, from an office chair set up, it's not really the most comfortable of movements. Z...

Not always an option... Because, concrete floor, or, you know, you rent, and screw holes in floors don't go down well. OR, the motion from an office chair is simply not comfortable. Z...

Ah ok, I understand :thumbup: Z...

More a case of being the wrong tool for the job, I'd say, rather than being unsatisfied with the product itself. Exactly! I have Baur's excellent F3, and it is not very good with my office chair set up - though I knew that, and is why I have the T-rudder MKIII's. I bought the BRD F3's for my sim pit build, for which it is *exactly* the right tool for the job. Z...

I'm not entirely sure I understand the problem with this, I've seen a few people comment, and when I got my new cams and swapped them, I found it quite easy. The hardest thing was finding the written instructions, the rest was pretty straight forward, though, I guess I am used to working on "small things", so could be an experience thing. Z...

Jakarta, by chance? Z...

Actually, this VPC throttle looks like a pretty good solution for space, I play Elite dangerous, and use a CH Pro throttle for it, and it's actually a very good throttle (the best I have found) for that game. It's ancient electronics let it down a touch, but it is solid, if not very expensive for what it is. The VPC Mongoos throttle looks to have a very similar layout, certainly close enough that my bindings will be near identical, and with an analog thumbstick, it will be an ideal replacement to my CH Pro throttle (which will stay in us eon my secondary PC). It's certainly a much better solution than the Warthog throttle I have. Still, a swappable analog thumbstick/4 way + press hat would be epic, though I can certainly understand the design challenges, and pricing would suffer. Z...

Which country would that be? Z...

Fair enough, though VPC seem to have proven themselves on this front. Z...

Order from overseas. Go on, live a little. Here, in Aus, we do it all the time. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Z...

Is there a chance that the throttle grips will be modular? Z...

Is there a chance that the throttle grips will be modular? Z...

Ooohhh... Nice throttle, with analog mini stick! YEAY!!! Here, take my money. No, take it faster... Z...

I have the T-rudder MKIII, and also Baur F3 - the VKB is a really nice, relatively inexpensive option, quality is excellent, and the accuracy is about as good as it gets, I'd say. The motion is very smooth, and I can make very fine adjustments. It's also about as good as it gets for an office chair style set up. I bought the Baur for a simpit set up, and the VKB for my other rig (office chair). they really are not competing products, in my eyes, as they perform the same task, but with a different application. I'd certainly by them again. Z...

F&%$*NG awesome. Based on mine :thumbup: Z...

Wow... Now that's a gimbal!!! Z...

It's not designed for use on a desk - it will not stay upright on it's own at all whilst in use.. I had to make my own "mount" by using a Vesa mount from an Intel Nuc, it works for screwing down where I wanted to, but it would really have been nice to include a"desktop mount" base, even if not for use on a desktop, to be able to screw it down to a surface without having to dodgy up my own mount... A small thing, but still. Z...

Remember, these guys are engineers. They enjoy building things, designing thngs, they are not sales guys. This is why their products are so good. To get in touch with Baur, I sent him a PM on a Russian sim forum (google translate is a wonderfull thing), and he sent me his email address. I can probably dig it up if you like. He's excellent to deal with, responds quickly, and 100% trustworthy with your money. :thumbup: Z...

Pet bug bear. It's DAMPING. Dampening is what you do to a girl before you... Erm, never mind. Z...

I have the F3's, love them. Have not tried Slaw or Crosswinds, so can't comment on those. I suspect the best way is to pick the one you like the look of best, because everyone seems very happy with whichever one they bought. I've yet to see any bad words for any of them. For me, I liked the engineering behind the aaur F3, and the design works perfectly for my setup. Z...

The F-18 does not have the Top Gun soundtrack to back it up. Z...

Nice. and well beyond my budget! Z...

Exactly - this option makes the purchase viable for me, and I know full well the trade offs, but, well, life happens. :thumbup: Z...