Balzarog

Oh, Wow, ED (I believe Belsimtek is now part of ED) is working on a new engine to address what, the ability of some users to over temp the engine with no consequences? Is that what's preventing developing and releasing what was promised from the beginning; the ability of Co-OP multi-crew? This has the appearance of "Hey, we really don't want to invest in unproductive solutions to issues on products we've already sold, so we'll just keep feeding the whiners little insignificant things to shut them up. We need to put the efforts toward developing new revenue streams (F-4, F-14, P-47, etc.)" I love flying the Huey, and honestly, I couldn't care less about insignificant little things like "the left side of the cockpit is a different hue than the right side" or "the windscreen is dirty, you should remove the bug splatter." I want what Belsimtek promised us from the beginning, or for them to "man up," apologize, and admitt that they can't do it. All I keep seeing is the developers passing the buck and blaming someone or something else for it not getting it done. That is a really crappy way to run a business, and extraordinarily insulting and condescending to the paying customers!

Well, here it is, a year later. Belsimtek said "a few months" barring any big trip points. I read halfway through the thread, have Belsimtek communicated anything further on the issues that are still preventing them from implementing co-op multi-crew in the Huey, or is it just the efforts of developing NEW aircraft for release that are preventing it? If they have found that it isn't feasible to implement co-op military-positions, they should just "man up" to it, post an apology with an explanation, and move on. Five years of waiting is a bit much, and is beginning to look like "financial considerations."

Or Allied gliders and the C-47:thumbup:

Unfortunitly, I believe ED will be damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Period correct weathering and wear in the P-51D cockpit would be relative to an airplane that's less than a year old. I think too many users would complain that "It doesn't look real!"

Um, have any of you submitted, or considered submitting an actual bug report? That is the only sure fire way to ensure that ED knows about this bug. Posting your complaint in a forum and hoping an ED employee or a moderator sees it and reports it is hit or miss at best. Contrary to popular belief, ED doesn't constantly monitor these forums, and the moderators are not ED employees. A moderator has a real life, and doesn't spend all his or her time reading threads in the forums. The moderator BigNewy has an excellent link on how to submit a bug report. You might want to try it. @Vampyr, sorry, I think our posts crossed.

Does the "standard" Spitfire Mark IX also accept bombs and external tanks now? In the video, it looked like the standard "C" wing, not the clipped wing.

My reply was to King Cobra who made the statement about the wings producing more lift. My response to you was regarding the first sentence of your second paragraph. I stand by my correction. again, my apologies to the OP for assisting in hijacking his thread.

Or whatever the monitor's native refresh rate is?

The Royal Navy officially began it's daily ration of one pint of about 70 proof rum, or tot as it was known, in 1687. The pint was reduced to 1/2 pint, and then to one gill (about 2 oz.) in 1919. The tot was abolished in 1970. That means the tot was still issued daily through WWII. Beyond that, any soldier, sailor, or airman was usually able to occasionally get hooch or to distill it themselves. The average serviceman was quite inventive when it came to making stills.

I have a 4K monitor, and have my DCS set at 1920x1080. It really helps with spotting.

I have both, and I love the F5 more. I actually find fly-by-wire boring. I have the BCM campaign for the F-5, and it teaches everything from the employment of the airplane in dogfights to navigation. There is a reason that the the F5 is used as the aggressor in real life. It's a fantastic little airplane.

Gee, and I was just going to ask if anyone actually submitted a bug report instead of just posting it in this forum:megalol:

The F/A-18 can in fact fly with the wings folded. I think it loses about 30% of the wing lift with the wings folded. The F-4 Phantom that I worked on in the U.S.M.C. was the same. I saw them take off with the wings folded. The engines are so powerful that they are basically reusable rockets. That's why you get the warning tone:-D Word to the wise; always look to see why you're getting a warning tone!

I'd rather get my rum ration from the Royal Navy. Hey, if the RN had Spitfires, did they get rum and beer?

What he said is quote "That's when they don't produce any lift in any direction that would deflect the elevators." That statement implies that a trim tab deflects the elevators by producing either a positive or negative lift. They don't. They deflect a control surface to cause a change in the roll, pitch, or yaw of the airplane to relieve the pilot's workload. They have nothing to do with affecting the wing's ability to generate lift. Many people on this forum are complete novices when it comes to how aircraft fly. I want to make sure that they see the correct information. In anticipation of you questioning my credentials, I've been an aircraft mechanic for more than 40 years. I was a hydraulics/pneumatics mechanic on F-4 Phantoms and UH-1E Helicopters in the U.S.M.C. I've modified B-52Ds, B747s, and B727s for Boeing. I was a flight line mechanic for Cessna on C441 Conquest twin turboprop airplanes and Citation II Business Jets. I hold a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Airman certificate for Mechanic with ratings of Airframe and Powerplant. I was a technical writer on the F404-GE-400 engine manuals for GE that were used on the first production F/A-18A and B models, and I wrote engine certification regulations for the FAA. I don't troll, and I don't argue semantics. I correct misinformation.

I think I might have found the source of all the confusion. The Trimmer section on page 63 of the DCS Spitfire manual states: "The neutral position of elevator trim on the indicator is marked by 2 bars from the middle position towards "NOSE UP". Two full revolutions of the wheel are required to move the trimmer from the arrow's middle position to the extreme end." I think the "bars" of which they speak are the ridges on the trim wheel itself. Also, I moved the wheel from stop (-4) to stop (+4) and I believe the total movement was two full revolutions from stop to stop, not from the arrow's middle position to the extreme end. One clockwise revolution takes you from -4 to 0 on the indicator, and one clockwise revolution takes you from 0 to +4. So neutral would be two ridges clockwise from the center position of the trim wheel and the indicator still indicates 0. @ Irishlad200000, I apologize for hijacking your thread. My bottom line advice for taking off is to use either the manual or Charlie O's guide for takeoff, and then experiment with different settings and such to determine which suits you best. Then practice, practice, and practice some more. Even though I can usually takeoff OK now, I still end up in a smoking crater some of the time.

Actually, what he said is quoted above my reply.

A trim tab doesn't produce any lift. The trim tab simply deflects the control surface. You are correct about the trim tabs varying in flight. The higher your airspeed, the more lift your wing surfaces produce, so you trim nose down to counter that lift. The slower your airspeed, the less lift your wing surfaces produce, so you trim nose up. The Spit doesn't have fuel tanks in the wings, so there's no need to trim for less fuel in one wing than the other. The P-51 does, so it has aileron trim tabs. The Fw-190 Dora doesn't have internal wing tanks, but it has a single fixed, but bendable tab on the right-hand aileron and rudder (I'm not completely sure that the rudder has a tab, but I believe it does) that trims the aileron and rudder based on flight testing of each individual airplane at a specific airspeed.

:lol: LOL, well, I won''t argue with that! British and French engineering. It just doesn't make sense to me. When I spawn in on a take off instant action, it spawns in with the trim indicator at +2. The DCS manual and Chuck Owl's guide both say to set the trim indicator to -1 (one of them might said "1 nose heavy). That was my point to the original poster regarding take off, and why the +2 being neutral sounds odd.

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Just uncheck them in your options.

I'm afraid I must disagree. In my 40+ years as a military and civil aircraft mechanic, I have never seen a trim system that did not use "0" as the "neutral" trim point. Even if you add something that permanently changes the aircraft's center of gravity (CG), and therefore the "neutral" trim, you must reset the trim system so that "0" is the neutral base trim.

One of the most important things I've found when using instant action take offs is how the aircraft is initially set up when you spawn in. This applies to ALL taildraggers. For example, when you spawn into a Spit, the elevator trim is ALWAYS set to tail heavy (2 on the indicator). This can cause the Spit to lift off too early, causing a stall. Change the elevator trim to nose heavy (-1). This will help the tail to raise earlier, resulting in a better AOA so you don't tend to stall as you break ground. Apply throttle slowly and steadily to 4 lbs to start rolling up, then to 8 lbs in about 6 seconds. Don't apply steady pressure to the rudder pedals. "Dance" on the pedals using short, quick taps on the pedals. I personally don't use rudder trim during take off on either the Spit or the Mustang. I control the "torque" by not advancing the throttle to quickly and by "dancing" on the rudder pedals. Again, when you spawn into the cockpit, check all your settings. The Spit spawns with +2 tail heavy when it should be -1 nose heavy, and the Dora spawns in with trim set a zero (I believe) and with flaps down when it should be -1 nose heavy and flaps up. Those spawned settings can make your take off very difficult indeed. I use a Warthog H.O.T.A.S. also. I don't use any curves, my saturations are set to 100, and my dead zones are set to 2.

All the update to the release version did was to create a new "Release" baseline. The Open Beta will still be the only version to be updated on a regular schedule. The "new Release baseline" will be updated again when ED feels the Open Beta has progressed to a point sufficient to update the release version, the same as just happened.

That's how F-5 pilots even the odds when fighting any of the more modern fighters. They get your location from AWACS, get down on the deck, come up on your 6 from below, and fire a sidewinder when they get a good growl. They don't use their radar because that takes away their advantage.