CrazyGman

Yeah the F-16A could just sip on fuel. The F1s apparently isn't bad for fuel comsuption for a turbo jet, but it can't compete with a single engine turbo fan like the F-16 or Mirage 2000c. I imagine it will have better endurance then the MiG 21 and the F-5 though.

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The painted eyes, while looking cool don't help with spotting Lol. In the middle of the fight I lose sight of one of the F-5's and try to make a run for it only to be re-engaged.

I mean there are similarities to be sure. The Hind will be much better in attack with either petrovich or a second human pilot. The weapons and range you can engage at will be better as well as gunnery and sighting. The Hind will be significantly faster. Will have 4-5km range ATMs and much heavery rockets and bombs, and then later in early access be able to carry R-60m's and be able to provide air defense roles. The Mi-8 will still excell in troop and cargo transport and sling loading.

Maybe not stingers but lots of MANPADS and more modern ones then the ones used in Soviet Afgahnistan war.

All helicopters are allergic to MANPADs if you can ambush with them. Look at US losses in Iraq. Apaches and Cobras are not immune. That and combined with getting close to ground fire, obstructions, and having no ejection systems, military helicopter pilots have a fairly high casualty rate compared to all other aircraft.

Just be careful. The Mi-24 can bring 4 R-60m's, (sometime in early access) and carry a ton of counter measures. If Gazelles can swat down Hornets in multiplayer just think what some sneaky Hind pilots can do.

While they didn't use the P version. A pair of Mi-24Vs were also used extensively in Sierra Leone in the 90s by South African Mercenaries against rebel forces pretty much by themselves at 1 point. It was very much a low intensity conflict, with the Mi-24 only really using is 12.7mm and 55mm rockets, and window gunners with heavy machine guns (they only had a handfull of 80mm rockets) against mostly technicals, troops and outposts in the jungle. At one point the pilot had to fight back an attack on Freetown at night by himself Mi-24p's have been used in the Syrian conflict. You can create a ton of third world conflict scenarios where the hind is going to at best be going up against some old light armor with heavy machine guns and maybe a odd Manpad. It's been used that way extensively throught the globe. It's perfect to run low cost asymetric warfare COIN fight scenarios. Some people say the ground fire is too accurate, but flying the Ka-50 on cold war multiplayer it's still easily managed when attacking with rockets and guns with a bit of planning. I think we'll get a interesting campaign out of the Mi-24P from ED

https://www.nva-flieger.de/index.php/theorie.html

Actually the sneak out is what the manuver is showing in the picture, hence the loop around portion. The reason you don't see Russian Hinds doing it in vids is the same reason you don't see Apaches and Cobras doing it in Afgahnistan and Iraq, it's an ambush tactic, and defensive tactic, not a CAS tactic. In the low intensity counter insurgency fight the philosophy is don't stop moving, there is no sneak and pop up, Apaches fly higher and fly patterns to prevent getting ambushed and stay out range of small arms. The pop up and scoot is mostly used against advancing armor in a defensive roll or to ambush a known target using anti-tank missiles. The Russians train for it just as NATO does, but both sides just never really had a call to use it in the current conflict setings. The Soviets and Americans never had advancing armor to stop in Afgahnistan.

Except they did https://www.nva-flieger.de/index.php/theorie.html Discribes using Mi-24D's and using the old 9M17 Phalanga

Warning ban, kicked, all the same to me. I never asked for any punitive action, just a solution so that it couldn't be taken advantage of in the future, and letting people know that it was something that could happen with the current setting. It's now going to be resolved which i'm more then happy with and the entire purpose of me reporting it.

I left because I had other engagements. Ask TATS, i told him i could just sling load and then I had to sign off. Not the first time i've done that. Your salty that your actions got you banned, take it up with Alpenwolf

You can also lock up air targets in beam mode last minute. (Which i do from time to time) to give even less warning. You generally want your target inside 3km when the missle comes off the rails for a head on shot, but it can be unreliable with beam mode.

If a MiG 21 camped at Krasnador, I would have called them out too, and as mentioned flying around the base is one thing. Landing at the enemy base and literally base camping to save fuel and remaining undetected is what got you the warning ban, don't pretend that you thought that was going to be on the up and up. If you did you wouldn't have used an alias. Also the clouds and fog were reduced significantly, and pretty much none existant in most on that map, as Alpenwolf changed it from before. It was clear skys for me the entire way to Nalchik unlike in previous weeks, so again i doubt that you had to work that hard in the mountains.

Well a few problems. 1: i was still starting to decelerate when you shot me down, so It would have been another 5 minutes before I had even come close getting the crate down. Which is a ton of time for you because i can't really evade at all while slingloading and i pretty much had the most effiecient run i could get so i couldn't really get there faster. 2: Even had I spotted you it would mean nothing for the reasons above, i can't evade you. 3: What you did is deliberatly breaking the sling loading aspect of the mission. You want to fly around the base instead, fine, but flying low in the mountains and then finding Nalchik isnt hard, esspesally how far south you flew, and then landing to avoid detection, and planning on a one way trip with no intention of returning that's just admiting that your trolling. As Alpenwolf stated, he shoudn't have needed to put defenses on those bases (though i feel all bases that are in play should automatically have defenses). 4: as for shooting you down in a helicopter. Yeah in the active AO where you have friendlies and defencive ground cover and i always have the intention to at least "try" to make it back, not do a 1 way suicide run. I've got shot down plenty of times in the Ka-50 and Mi-8 but again that was in the active AO. What you did was akin if I had found a map where the tactical nukes where availible for the MiG 21, and then ran in and suicided the airbases. It's the same as the mig 21s landing at Farps to get R60m. Sure can you do it yes, are you intended to based on the parameters? Obviously not.

Wouldn't have been as bad because I wouldn't have wasted 40 minutes

Maybe it will come out sooner the June 1... Pleasently surprised. Wonder when the cold start is coming out

Thanks. Yeah I would have been less annoyed if he didn't just land there so he could see me coming, but not be detected by radar. I'm ok with a F-5 running the gambit and risk getting shot down to kill me, but this is different

Can we get some air defenses at Nalchik and Krasnodar for Red and blue on the open range mission? Just took the 40minutes to fly all the way there, only to have a F-5 pick me out of the sky right as I was hovering over Nalchik. and there is nothing there to engage him, so basically he can just park himself there and there is no way to engage him, and since he's so far behind our lines, and the early warning radar so far forward, no way to detect him. EDIT: Oh it's even worse. Sekhmet landed at the airfield, and waited for me to arrive, to conserve fuel, and remain undetected, he then took off and shot me down

Well if history is to be remembered they said end of 2nd qaurter....which means June 30th to them.....which means likely mid to end of July

Yeah that resistant to 12.7 mm is a bit of a a exageration. In the end it's an aircraft made of mostly light metals like all aircraft and while some like the Mi-24 and A-10 and P-47 are advertised as being able to shrug off hits, that all depends on a number of factors and most of the time it's just the redundancies of the aircraft that allow it to take some damage and limp home. It will probably be as resiliant as the Ka-50 is currenty in game

Wow this is great. I'm not sure what missle they are referencing, or if it's just a general guideline since there are different engagement ranges for wire guided and semi auto guided missiles. Edit: Nevermind found it it's for the old 9M17P Falanga-P So for the missles the Mi-24P is getting like the SHTURM i'm expecting the ranges would be a little further

Apparently people who say the Mi-8s switches and gauges are messy never looked in a AH-1W cockpit

Personally I prefer the older paint schemes. The gear did get deployed quickly, but in other videos I thought it deployed around at the same speed?