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Im not saying the Bis is wonderful. Im saying is DIFFERENT, from Vietnam War versions. Vietnam 21's had less engine thrust but also talking in general, were lighter, nimble, more handly than the Bis. the older the version, the lighter more nimble were. The Bis was a great update with a very powerful engine, faster and better T/W ratio but at an overall cost of beeing heavier and not so nimble. Also the previous Phantom versions to the E were absolutely turning bricks so even a Mig-21 inside a Phantom pilots mind should seem like Ali punching Foreman all around. But the real champions of turning fights were the Mig-17.

Everything is on books out there but saying the MF is the same as the Bis.....Not arguments, just facts. MF Engine R13-300 ( Thrust around 9000 lbf dry - 14.000 lbf AB ) Bis Engine R25-300 ( Thrust around 12.000 lbf dry - 15.500 lbf AB - 22.000 lbf in Max AB ) Bis upgrades: Aerodinamically cleaner fuselage spine, changes in fuel load for better perfomance, new SAU system, Lazur-Polyot equipment, RP-22M Radar, better ASP-PFD sight for increasing G tolerance while using the cannon, etc. So , not the same plane, not the same FM, not the same flight perfomance at all. If you want to do the job i can link here the real Mig-21 Bis manual with plenty of perfomance charts so you can take that reference information, climb on the Mig-21 inside DCS and make some flight test comparing the real charts with DCS numbers. Then came back and share your tests here. Then we can talk about numbers, charts, perfomances and FM. Not feelings. You can start with this, is quite famous around this forums, and the DCS Bis quite acurated to it.

Vietnam War Mig-21 were MiG-21F-13, Mig21PFL, Mig-21 PFM and MiG-21MF. No Mig-21Bis. So before judging the Bis FM try to read something about the same model we have, not previous versions with diferent engines, weight, thrust, internal fuel capacity and so on and so for.

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I will try to help you Mustang with what i consider the perfect finish for you already awesome textures. What i like most from 1.18 is the uneven terrain, the variety of surfaces, textures, colours, finishes all around the ground. And what i like from your latest version is the excellent new grain or noise of the surface, is like having grass without the need of turning it on, im not native english so is difficult to describe but the latests versions have a terrian more sharpen, noisy and defined. A mix from 1.18 uneven surfaces and this extra noisy-granny-sharpen surface could be fantastic. Some shots from 1.18 about things i like a lot. And the details down flying Also i like more the rocky finish from 1.18.

Tested the latest one and i understand why you, Mustang like it, but for me 1.18 is just perfect. Thanks a lot for your efforts.

Of course, always glad to test new sets, im on ¡¡¡

Not again please.

ITs funky time ¡¡¡¡

The Mig-23 used in the 4477th in Tonopah were Mig-23MS a very much downgraded version of the Russian Mig-23M. No IRST, no R-23, RP-22SM Radar and only R-3S/R and R-60 missiles and very poor BFM perfomance. The ML-MLA versions were much better, with a redesign of the airframe, reduced weight, less drag and better aerodynamics rated to 8.5G, better engine with more thrust/weight ratio and overall better maneuverability. Also the radar was improved, R-24 missiles added, better HUD and ECM resistance. The best BFM Mig-23 was the Mig-23MLD of course, with improved AoA handling, vortex generators in the wings and pitot boom, better FCS, avionics and radar. So a Mig-23MS cant BFM better than a F-111 but a MLA-MLD is a completly different thing. Is like comparing the Mig-21F from 4477th with the last Mig-21Bis variants.

Go outside and enjoy some sunshine. Its a beautiful day.

And taxes. Dont forget taxes.

Best video producer ever. Thanks GA ¡¡

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I mean Razbam team members living in Cuba are working on the Mig-19. Thats what i´ve read not long ago. Nothing about cubanace. Of course i can be wrong but thats the info i´ve read.

Razbam is the source. Mig-19 is the cuban´s team from Razbam.

Harrier timeline thread? Is possible? Thanks...

LOL didnt notice until this.

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Also working in MP?

I think both of you can have a polite conversation using PM instead using this thread about what is done and what to be done about the Harrier. Users of this forums would be very pleased.

Is Released? Thats good news.

Thats an awesome work Flappie. Hats off ¡¡

If your criticism is constructive, mature and courteous manner you dont have nothing to fear.